Ok this is just a gut reaction topic but damn... The storyline just moves way to fast. Its like hay here we are there is an attack. Then My GW says "Darkspawn making a surprise attack that is unheard of!?" How they hell dose he know it was a surprise attack? He just showed up... Then we fight through and find Anders. He gets a lame intro about how he is a run away mage. Then we run into Oghren. He says he want to be a GW. Do we get a chance to ask why? No. Do we get to ask why he left his kid? No. We then fight this scary talking Darkspawn and save this guy. He says "Thanks oh look more people." Alistair shows up and says "Hi oh wow Darkspawn I can't help bye." Then Oghren asks to do the joining. Can we now ask what he is doing here and why he left his wife and kid? No. Cut to joining being done by this guy we don't know and Mhairi the one character that seems to have potential dies. That is as far as I have got and man I am just sitting here scratching my head wondering how Bioware made something this bad....
Ok sorry for this rant. I am ready and willing for the flame. But this is how I feel about the game so far.
Just got Awakenings and wow dose it suck...
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 08:36
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I actually have the same impression. *sigh* I'm still hoping it will be ok, though. I'm not far enough in where I can judge yet.
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 08:36
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Do we really need to talk about family matters? Do you really wanna hear about Felsi?
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 08:39
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Hey that doesn't stop Oghren talking about a "green rash" he has later lmao
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 08:50
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Actually, yes, I would like to hear about Felsi. No great details, but wow, he gets married, has a child, and leaves them both? With ZERO comment? And my warden who was in a political marriage with Alistair is suddenly in love with him (COULD be a bug, who knows). *sigh* Grumpy so far! Still hoping it gets better!
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 08:55
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Yeah, I get this feeling that the team that worked on DA:O was shifted to DA2, and the slackers and interns were given Awakenings as a quick cash grab. Then EA made them pump it out before it was ready.
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 09:12
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How are surprise attacks from Dark Spawn unheard of? When investigating the ruins outside Ostigar at the beginning of origins, the ****ers come right out of the ground and surround you.
And Dalish Origin spoiler:
You eventually get ambushed at camp out of nowhere by a large group of Shreiks.
And I had thought the whole point of not having your companions from Origins as playable companions in Awakenings was so that you don't disrupt the continuity character established in Origins in case they do decide to have you pick up where you left off in the next game. (which is not confirmed, but not discounted, either.) So why is it that Ohgren becomes a Grey Warden, then, yet you couldn't bring Zevran or Leliana with you... It makes no sense.
If this tanks, I hope they will disregard it continuity wise, as from what I'm hearing so far, I'm not interested in buying it.
And Dalish Origin spoiler:
You eventually get ambushed at camp out of nowhere by a large group of Shreiks.
And I had thought the whole point of not having your companions from Origins as playable companions in Awakenings was so that you don't disrupt the continuity character established in Origins in case they do decide to have you pick up where you left off in the next game. (which is not confirmed, but not discounted, either.) So why is it that Ohgren becomes a Grey Warden, then, yet you couldn't bring Zevran or Leliana with you... It makes no sense.
If this tanks, I hope they will disregard it continuity wise, as from what I'm hearing so far, I'm not interested in buying it.
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 09:13
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It moved fast yes, but it didn't bother me much. I am liking it so far.
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 09:27
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ejoslin wrote...
Actually, yes, I would like to hear about Felsi. No great details, but wow, he gets married, has a child, and leaves them both? With ZERO comment? And my warden who was in a political marriage with Alistair is suddenly in love with him (COULD be a bug, who knows). *sigh* Grumpy so far! Still hoping it gets better!
Oh wow, I just replayed at least ten hours on one of my characters last weekend so I could have both a "political marriage" save and "marriage for love" endgame save. Great to know that was all for nothing...
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 09:29
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Hmm yea I think I'll wait on getting this game. Maybe get it used or something. From what I hear from those who got it (at least quite a few of them) It is definitely not worth the..what 50 some $ it costs.
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 09:36
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TeenZombie wrote...
ejoslin wrote...
Actually, yes, I would like to hear about Felsi. No great details, but wow, he gets married, has a child, and leaves them both? With ZERO comment? And my warden who was in a political marriage with Alistair is suddenly in love with him (COULD be a bug, who knows). *sigh* Grumpy so far! Still hoping it gets better!
Oh wow, I just replayed at least ten hours on one of my characters last weekend so I could have both a "political marriage" save and "marriage for love" endgame save. Great to know that was all for nothing...
It could have been a bug. I will attempt it on another political marriage character -- I had another character import in completely bugged out as well. Actually, I would double check and see if she had the "still in love" flag. She shouldn't have, and she definitely was in a full romance with Zevran at the end, but one of my characters may have had it.
Edit: No, it was DEFINITELY a political marriage at the end, (got the ruler and savior ending so only a friend flag).
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 09:38
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I was gonna pull the trigger, just do it and download it, but alas, BioWare didn't bother to inform its United States Ps3 community (guess I should have known this) that we would wait along side the rest of the world until Sony updates the PSN on Thursday.
What's that? No, I can't buy it in the store unless I want to round trip a 170 miles by car. Sounds like I'll just listen to the pain instead of feel it. I do hope it gets better for anyone not happy, did it at least improve any performance issues?
What's that? No, I can't buy it in the store unless I want to round trip a 170 miles by car. Sounds like I'll just listen to the pain instead of feel it. I do hope it gets better for anyone not happy, did it at least improve any performance issues?
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 09:41
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It is just an expansion that we payed around half the price for (well I did) ... I don't expect it to be as in depth as DAO as a result. I am enjoying the action so far, but I have found a bug with the Smugglers quests in the main city.
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 10:00
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Um, no. These aren't high school kids knocking out a random bit of code. These are professionals and they can actually do their jobs. I don't expect the game to be ridiculously huge but I can damn well expect them to do their jobs and keep up with the big plot points they put in.hetfool wrote...
It is just an expansion that we payed around half the price for (well I did) ... I don't expect it to be as in depth as DAO as a result. I am enjoying the action so far, but I have found a bug with the Smugglers quests in the main city.
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 10:06
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You know, I don't expect it to be in depth. I actually don't expect to see my romance partner in it (disappointing but oh well). But I WOULD like the fact that an ending I deliberately chose would at least be acknowledged instead of completely disregarded. The ending is a political marriage with a never-romanced Alistair.
I would have rather not had the marriage acknowledged at all, or for them to have been formal, than for the marriage to become, somehow, a romantic one. This is beyond not having my warden's romance partner in it; this is giving her an entirely different romance partner. Would anyone have liked leaving the game with Leliana in a full romance to come back to now being in a full romance with Zevran? I know a lot of people don't care about that kind of stuff. But the romances were something that made Origins special to a lot of us.
Anyway, it's not that big a deal, really. I paid my money and I'll play the game, and I'm still giving it a chance. I don't think it sucks or anything. I really haven't played it enough to have made a decision yet.
Edit: Ok, I'm over it now! But I had to complain!
I would have rather not had the marriage acknowledged at all, or for them to have been formal, than for the marriage to become, somehow, a romantic one. This is beyond not having my warden's romance partner in it; this is giving her an entirely different romance partner. Would anyone have liked leaving the game with Leliana in a full romance to come back to now being in a full romance with Zevran? I know a lot of people don't care about that kind of stuff. But the romances were something that made Origins special to a lot of us.
Anyway, it's not that big a deal, really. I paid my money and I'll play the game, and I'm still giving it a chance. I don't think it sucks or anything. I really haven't played it enough to have made a decision yet.
Edit: Ok, I'm over it now! But I had to complain!
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 10:08
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ejoslin wrote...
(...) And my warden who was in a political marriage with Alistair is suddenly in love with him (COULD be a bug, who knows).
Oh wow, that's 100% awesome! This means that I don't have to go all the way back and romance Alistair to be the queen and he loves me, I just have to replay only the landsmeet part of the game in which I can force him to marry me...
*Evil laughs* Thanks for this info! Much appreciated!! >:-D
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 10:11
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DLAN_Immortality wrote...
ejoslin wrote...
(...) And my warden who was in a political marriage with Alistair is suddenly in love with him (COULD be a bug, who knows).
Oh wow, that's 100% awesome! This means that I don't have to go all the way back and romance Alistair to be the queen and he loves me, I just have to replay only the landsmeet part of the game in which I can force him to marry me...
*Evil laughs* Thanks for this info! Much appreciated!! >:-D
You wouldn't have to anyway. At least you shouldn't have to. You can turn on the romance at any time. Even just before the landsmeet if you've never romanced him.
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 10:18
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Nah, thing is, in my last playthrough I didn't romance or even marry him (because I was testing my mod, so I was romancing somebody else, who would have gotten super pissed if I'd have married Alistair, even in a fixed marriage :-D )
So my intention was to pick up somewhere and romance Alistair properly... until now, that I know that I only need to force him to marry me and we'll live happily ever after anyways.
Who knows, maybe he warmed up to you while being married? :-)
PS: anyways, what's that sekrit way in which you can activate the romance at any time? :-)
So my intention was to pick up somewhere and romance Alistair properly... until now, that I know that I only need to force him to marry me and we'll live happily ever after anyways.
Who knows, maybe he warmed up to you while being married? :-)
PS: anyways, what's that sekrit way in which you can activate the romance at any time? :-)
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 10:21
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If I can sum up what I thought of the expansion, I would say it's better than I feared and worse than I hoped. It's good, but it could have been better if more time was given to its development.
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 10:25
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I think my general sense was it seemed...well rushed.
It speaks a lot to the talent of the writers, the dev team and the scripters that they managed to ensure it remained entertaining and it is. But there are a lot of "huh?" moments that are difficult to justify without further extrapolation which never comes. After the rich character interaction and deep immersion of DAO, this seems well...like a furious quickie (Pardon my Orlesian)
It speaks a lot to the talent of the writers, the dev team and the scripters that they managed to ensure it remained entertaining and it is. But there are a lot of "huh?" moments that are difficult to justify without further extrapolation which never comes. After the rich character interaction and deep immersion of DAO, this seems well...like a furious quickie (Pardon my Orlesian)
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 10:25
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Yarr, there be SPOILERS below!
I really don't like Awakening. The story feels too rushed, the characters are rather shallow(aside from Anders and maybe Nathaniel Howe) and underdeveloped and the Big Bads are...STUPID. The Keep part was just ridiculous - so what, you pay a mason, you clear the basements and bring ore to Wade so he can make armor for your recruits...and that's it? I'm just saying that if this were an ordinary RPG, I'd consider it good but this is Dragon Age and BioWare could do so much better.
On a side note, Sir Pounce-a-lot
I really don't like Awakening. The story feels too rushed, the characters are rather shallow(aside from Anders and maybe Nathaniel Howe) and underdeveloped and the Big Bads are...STUPID. The Keep part was just ridiculous - so what, you pay a mason, you clear the basements and bring ore to Wade so he can make armor for your recruits...and that's it? I'm just saying that if this were an ordinary RPG, I'd consider it good but this is Dragon Age and BioWare could do so much better.
On a side note, Sir Pounce-a-lot
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 10:31
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just can say that, so far, it felt quite strange, that all those people were just thrown at me. awkward.
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 10:39
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brain_damage wrote...
On a side note, Sir Pounce-a-lot
True.
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 10:41
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I think my general sense was it seemed...well rushed.
It speaks a lot to the talent of the writers, the dev team and the scripters that they managed to ensure it remained entertaining and it is. But there are a lot of "huh?" moments that are difficult to justify without further extrapolation which never comes. After the rich character interaction and deep immersion of DAO, this seems well...like a furious quickie (Pardon my Orlesian)
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You've spelled out my sentiments exactly Beer, thank you.
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 10:48
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brain_damage wrote...
Yarr, there be SPOILERS below!
I really don't like Awakening. The story feels too rushed, the characters are rather shallow(aside from Anders and maybe Nathaniel Howe) and underdeveloped and the Big Bads are...STUPID. The Keep part was just ridiculous - so what, you pay a mason, you clear the basements and bring ore to Wade so he can make armor for your recruits...and that's it? I'm just saying that if this were an ordinary RPG, I'd consider it good but this is Dragon Age and BioWare could do so much better.
On a side note, Sir Pounce-a-lot
I had a feeling the keep would play out just as the stronghold from NWN2.
