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[just somebody]

Ferret A Baudoin wrote...

I'm glad to hear so many of you are enjoying it.

I took the time to count the answers in this thread, left out the neutral ones (even while thinking, that even a neutral review for a game is a bad review), and this counting resulted in 17 positive and 20 negative answers.

How can you seriously talk about "so many of us" enjoying the game? Are your expectations THAT low...?

[taurinsm]

I thought the expansion was great, but couldv'e been a lot harder- that is, a lot harder for a character from origins... so far my orlesian warden has had a much more difficult time. I would have enjoyed a bit more infusion of people and things from origins (leliana? zevran? was hoping for at least a mention, if not a cameo) I look forward to enjoying more of your work.

[Cancermeat]

Why didnt they mention anything about all the bugs in the game, they play a big part in this exspansion?

Modifié par Cancermeat, 21 mars 2010 - 02:27 .

[debbiepuff]

Just finished - loved it!
Great continuation of the story. So much fun - I wanted it to keep going It took some time getting use to the new way of talking to the companions - was a little bummed I couldn't get Oghren to 100 - guess I must have missed something. The whole court thing with making decisions for the Keep and Amaranthine was great. The ending kinda stressed me out a little - but in a good way!
Fav companions - Anders and Ser Pounce-a-lot and Nathaniel.
Could have used more Alistair but I guess I'll have to wait for the next one The 'dear husband' was a nice touch.
My only real complaint - and really this isn't much of one - everyone calling me 'ser' kinda grated me for some weird reason. I much prefer all the 'my lady' stuff - but really not much of a complaint.
Great work everyone - keep it up and give us more soon! (more story - more romance) *wink wink*

Modifié par debbiepuff, 21 mars 2010 - 06:38 .

[Hubb-]

Karmianna wrote...

Ferret A Baudoin wrote...

I'm glad to hear so many of you are enjoying it.

Umm you are selective reading I guess. 

You guys at Bioware should be ashamed. DAO was such a great game to tag this hack job with the Dragon Age title belittles the Original.

I personally was sadly disappointed and it will be a long time before I trust bioware enough to preorder any game from them.

I think you are being a little harsh here, or over dramatic.  I enjoyed Awakening just not as much as DA:O.  Knowing what I do now (as in, I finished the game) I'd still buy it if given the option to redo the purchase.  I understand this is a completely opinionated thing; some people will like it, some wont, and some will be in the middle.  I just think you are being a little too butt hurt here.

[khaosway]

Hubb i agree in so many ways we all are being complete asses including myself being selfish and incompitent.This expansion must be there worst but it took Blood,Swet,Energy,and most of all Effort in this game. If only you could imagine yourselves as them in there position how would you feel? Well you feel powerful at some points but do you know what the hell your even doing? I think not. So shut up already -.- were all human economy sucks i know but still if you dont like the expansion say **** it and move on play some other games or do the whole game over again. I mean like GET A FREAKING LIFE!!!! Dont be stuck up complaining all the time. a few improvements would be great scratch that alot would be concured. so. They would like to listen to you all in a nice orderly fashion if you havent heard. Activision is being Sewed because there taking credit from other Companies hardships. <---- Dont know if that information is really accurate heard it from a friend that works for Activision. WE WOULDNT WANT BIOWARE TO BE LIKE THEM!!!! O.O NOW WOULD WE!!??

[khaosway]

and one more thing the Bioware isnt taking credit for everything scratch that part off LOL you guys might be saying WTF is he saying. xD im justing saying that it wouldnt be cool too see Bioware Fall!

[Feraele]

Okay..first off, two run-throughs, its a fun expansion I have to say. I put aside my doubt and played it. My doubt started with the Ultimate Sacrifice ending..at any rate I have put that to rest, as it seems it will not be addressed ..either now or for the future.

I encountered a couple of things..the dwarf merchant that makes the explosives, first run through there was a bug where it showed the quest sign over his head, but I couldn't access him, he spoke but didn't go into cut-scene mode.

The blood abilities, on my first run-through they weren't useable, they were there in the abilities list, but you couldn't add them to your quick bar..to use. Now I'll say right here, that there is more than a ton of new abilities/skills and the blood abilites pale in comparison...so I am not too upset about that..just kind of wanted to let you know.

End cut-scene..I killed the Boss, and it went into repeat mode..AFTER the credits ran..I believe. After it repeated about 6 times I had to use ctrl alt del to get out.

Second run-through, the blood abilities worked..hehe go figure. Didn't end up using them however..the new skills are GREAT. Also the dwarven merchant that makes the bombs..wasn't bugged either so I was able to hand in the last bit of stuff he required.

I want to mention that the quests for items to get Wade to make stuff for you..I don't know I have only ever managed to get one of those completed before you have to go off to "war". Just wondering if there is some way to make those quests available earlier in the expansion. As it was I finished as 34 and a half the first run.

This expansion is definitely replayable...oh and I STILL don't like Oghren, but I use him when I don't have a tank around...hehe

Modifié par Feraele, 21 mars 2010 - 11:04 .

[Feraele]

taurinsm wrote...

I thought the expansion was great, but couldv'e been a lot harder- that is, a lot harder for a character from origins... so far my orlesian warden has had a much more difficult time. I would have enjoyed a bit more infusion of people and things from origins (leliana? zevran? was hoping for at least a mention, if not a cameo) I look forward to enjoying more of your work.

I switched from normal mode to hard mode for my second run through Awakening..it is more difficult..in places.   I doubt I am good enough to play on Nightmare lol..but eventually my goal is to get good enough to play Origins, all dlc and the expansion in Nightmare. 

We'll see.   Oh I play in real time, don't use mods, don't pause.  At all.   I rely on the tactics I set my team up with.

Have to say its definitely an advantage to be a mage..those bosses go down alot faster ..than with my dual wield warrior characters.

[Cancermeat]

I played and beat the game on normal, i never felt threatened by enemies like i did in the main quest instead i they felt more like an annoyance.

[Karmianna]

Feraele wrote...

Okay..first off, two run-throughs, its a fun expansion I have to say. I put aside my doubt and played it. My doubt started with the Ultimate Sacrifice ending..at any rate I have put that to rest, as it seems it will not be addressed ..either now or for the future.

I encountered a couple of things..the dwarf merchant that makes the explosives, first run through there was a bug where it showed the quest sign over his head, but I couldn't access him, he spoke but didn't go into cut-scene mode.

The expansion is a very poor.

The blood abilities, on my first run-through they weren't useable, they were there in the abilities list, but you couldn't add them to your quick bar..to use. Now I'll say right here, that there is more than a ton of new abilities/skills and the blood abilites pale in comparison...so I am not too upset about that..just kind of wanted to let you know.

End cut-scene..I killed the Boss, and it went into repeat mode..AFTER the credits ran..I believe. After it repeated about 6 times I had to use ctrl alt del to get out.

Second run-through, the blood abilities worked..hehe go figure. Didn't end up using them however..the new skills are GREAT. Also the dwarven merchant that makes the bombs..wasn't bugged either so I was able to hand in the last bit of stuff he required.

I want to mention that the quests for items to get Wade to make stuff for you..I don't know I have only ever managed to get one of those completed before you have to go off to "war". Just wondering if there is some way to make those quests available earlier in the expansion. As it was I finished as 34 and a half the first run.

This expansion is definitely replayable...oh and I STILL don't like Oghren, but I use him when I don't have a tank around...hehe

[Karmianna]

khaosway wrote...

Hubb i agree in so many ways we all are being complete asses including myself being selfish and incompitent.This expansion must be there worst but it took Blood,Swet,Energy,and most of all Effort in this game. If only you could imagine yourselves as them in there position how would you feel? Well you feel powerful at some points but do you know what the hell your even doing? I think not. So shut up already -.- were all human economy sucks i know but still if you dont like the expansion say **** it and move on play some other games or do the whole game over again. I mean like GET A FREAKING LIFE!!!! Dont be stuck up complaining all the time. a few improvements would be great scratch that alot would be concured. so. They would like to listen to you all in a nice orderly fashion if you havent heard. Activision is being Sewed because there taking credit from other Companies hardships. <---- Dont know if that information is really accurate heard it from a friend that works for Activision. WE WOULDNT WANT BIOWARE TO BE LIKE THEM!!!! O.O NOW WOULD WE!!??

All I know is what I see. I see a product that rushed through all steps of development to bring it to market. And it shows. If it did not have the Dragon Age name to draw on it would just be another mediocre hack and slash fantasy game. It is not an RPG as your choice make no difference and there is no interaction with companions or NPCs that means anything to game play or choices.
You can polish a turd but when your done all you have is a shiny piece of crap.

[Karmianna]

Hubb- wrote...

Karmianna wrote...

Ferret A Baudoin wrote...

I'm glad to hear so many of you are enjoying it.

Umm you are selective reading I guess. 

You guys at Bioware should be ashamed. DAO was such a great game to tag this hack job with the Dragon Age title belittles the Original.

I personally was sadly disappointed and it will be a long time before I trust bioware enough to preorder any game from them.

I think you are being a little harsh here, or over dramatic.  I enjoyed Awakening just not as much as DA:O.  Knowing what I do now (as in, I finished the game) I'd still buy it if given the option to redo the purchase.  I understand this is a completely opinionated thing; some people will like it, some wont, and some will be in the middle.  I just think you are being a little too butt hurt here.

Can you honestly say that if games were grouped by over quality that Awakenings belongs on the same shelf as origins? This expansion is an obvious rush to sell something using a proven products name. It is certainly not worth the 40 dollar price tag. At best it was a big DLC worth maybe $15.00.

[LadyVaJedi]

My hubby did get it for me on my b-day. I managed to finish it in 13 hrs. I loved it but it was to dang short for how much it cost. I am not to happy that my pc took a walk for parts unknown.

[vonFurious]

$15 bucks. Really. Really?



13 hours, on Casual difficulty perhaps?



19 hrs. in, still have a whole area yet to explore.



People complaining about the length of the game are by-passing many features, not playing at an appropriate difficulty, or not (micro)managing their parties. The Awakenings expansion is a Origins grinder/ stat-hound's wet dream. Certainly some areas deserve more content (even moar beasties, please!). It is not a romance novel. It's darker than Origins, and much more focused on skills and strategy than people want to let on.



I wont go so far as to say you are playing it "wrong", but maybe the novels are better suited to those who simply want more story.



And yes, I have to admit it. The Rune Crafting is overly complicated and silly. I would suggest to anyone importing their Origins character to make sure you bring along all your Origins runes, they are very rare in Awakenings and the system to craft them is brain- fartingly convoluted.

[Karmianna]

vonFurious wrote...

$15 bucks. Really. Really?

13 hours, on Casual difficulty perhaps?

19 hrs. in, still have a whole area yet to explore.

People complaining about the length of the game are by-passing many features, not playing at an appropriate difficulty, or not (micro)managing their parties. The Awakenings expansion is a Origins grinder/ stat-hound's wet dream. Certainly some areas deserve more content (even moar beasties, please!). It is not a romance novel. It's darker than Origins, and much more focused on skills and strategy than people want to let on.

I wont go so far as to say you are playing it "wrong", but maybe the novels are better suited to those who simply want more story.

And yes, I have to admit it. The Rune Crafting is overly complicated and silly. I would suggest to anyone importing their Origins character to make sure you bring along all your Origins runes, they are very rare in Awakenings and the system to craft them is brain- fartingly convoluted.

I played it on Hard setting in less than 8 hours. I am sure I missed a few quest, but not many. I did the chanters boards and other quests as I saw them. Remember some quests were just go there and kill a few things. 
It was really pretty simple. In other areas of the forums some are writing how they soloed it in insane mode, I can believe it. As far as my play style. I am thinking it took me between 80 to 100 hours to finish DAO the first time through. I was quite frankly caught by surprise when I saw the epilogue pop up. 

If you are happy with your purchase, thats great for you. I was expecting more.
Perhaps my expectations of what I was going to get came from what has been the norm from Bioware.
Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 both delivered. I played both of them with each class/race or career variant possible. Dragon Age Origins delivered big time.

[vonFurious]

Karmianna: Thanks for your imput. I am glad you are posting your experience with the game rather than blindly shooting from the hip like many, many, posters who haven't even played the expansion.



I am sorry you only got eight hours out of it. I agree the difficulty was not what it should have been (I played Normal on Origins, Hard for Awakenings). I understand starting as a lvl. 18 Orleasian Warden can up the curve mightily.



I have found myself spending most of my time tinkering- with stats/ rebuilds, tactics (finally understand!), weapons & armors. Each battle (and I wish there were more) is an opportunity for me to try new things/ strategies/ combos. I feel like this is much more like a paper & pencil D&D campaign- less story, much more more kicking- ass, and lots of leveling.

[Karmianna]

vonFurious wrote...

Karmianna: Thanks for your imput. I am glad you are posting your experience with the game rather than blindly shooting from the hip like many, many, posters who haven't even played the expansion.

I am sorry you only got eight hours out of it. I agree the difficulty was not what it should have been (I played Normal on Origins, Hard for Awakenings). I understand starting as a lvl. 18 Orleasian Warden can up the curve mightily.

I have found myself spending most of my time tinkering- with stats/ rebuilds, tactics (finally understand!), weapons & armors. Each battle (and I wish there were more) is an opportunity for me to try new things/ strategies/ combos. I feel like this is much more like a paper & pencil D&D campaign- less story, much more more kicking- ass, and lots of leveling.

OMG thank you so much for the civil intelligent exchange. It is so rare anymore on game forums to actually share viewpoints. I am a long time gamer. Rise of the Triad era if that tells you anything. We used to actually chat with the developers back then. 

Awakenings had potential and perhaps it still does for me it will require many additions of opportunities to interact with my companions and to become immersed in the story as I was in Origins.

And of course Less Oghren, I found him to be completely adolescent in Awakenings. in Origins your companions would often have clever exchanges as you traveled,  Those were replaced with childish toilet humor in Awakenings.

[vonFurious]

Give it a run as the Orleasian. Don't miss the "Bwight Orphuns" quests at the tavern in Amaranthine, try to figure out the rune-crafting, do a couple of re-specs, really dial in your tactics, play the game counter to your instincts with the conversations, be bad, break up the areas (return to the Keep before you clear areas to re-spec-re equip.etc.) You know what to do!



I think it will grow on you once you stop thinking about the price. If you spent 80-100 hrs on Origins, I am sure you will find plenty of reasons to feel differently about Awakenings after "savoring" it a bit more.



Good Luck!

[stumphumper]

 This really should have been a DLC for half the cost.  It just has a DLC feel.  There's little interaction with the new players, I got the game friday evening after work and had it beaten twice by Saturday with a combined playtime of 16 hours or so.  It was fun, but the challenge of Origins wasn't there.  Here are my biggest complaints thus far:
1.  Very little social interaction between the main character and the members of his party.
2.  Why does the Seneschal, a non-warden (he says so in the story) do the ritual of joining.  In the first one, that was a large secret, you wouldn't want every tom, dick and harry walking around sipping Darkspawn blood to see if they could get new power
3. None of the DLC such as Blood Dragon Armor, Edge, Starfang, the new abilities you get from drinking the potion in Warden's Keep, etc. carry over.  If you carried around any items you looted or bought from merchants in those DLC, they're gone in Awakening.  Imagine my surprise when my dual-wield rogue popped in unarmed and unarmored into the opening scene which is a rather long fight.
4.  Completing all the quests is difficult as when you come back to the keep you're gonna talk to the Seneschal and have only 2 choices, go kill the final boss or not.
5. The final fight.  Like in Origins, you pick the party that sticks with your hero who goes to face one group of baddies, leaving the others to defend elsewhere (trying not to put in real spoilers).  Yet, unlike in DAO, you only do the part where the commander goes to kill the boss and the other group is just assumed to have passed or failed, there is no real control and their outcome is simply scripted.
6. I enjoyed the game, but it was too short and has little replay value as compared to the original.  It was not the epic RPG that Origins was, it was simply a hack-n-slash.  Decisions you made had very little to do with the actual outcome or anything, most just involved whether you would get a certain new party member or kill them or whatever.  The continuity sucks.  

I've been through it twice now, once with an import, once with an Orlesian Commander. I've also imported a couple of other characters just to see if the intros would be different, but honestly, the game just has no replay value like the first one did.  All I can hope for is that some fun mods come out or some serious patchwork happens.  For the first time, I am a dissatisfied customer with Bioware.

Modifié par stumphumper, 21 mars 2010 - 07:19 .

[vonFurious]

Video Games are like bakery goods. Some have raisins and cinnamon, some are half-baked.



But they always will cost less when not as fresh.



Wait for it, I guarantee the price will come down as rapidly as day-old bread.

[Karmianna]

vonFurious wrote...

Give it a run as the Orleasian. Don't miss the "Bwight Orphuns" quests at the tavern in Amaranthine, try to figure out the rune-crafting, do a couple of re-specs, really dial in your tactics, play the game counter to your instincts with the conversations, be bad, break up the areas (return to the Keep before you clear areas to re-spec-re equip.etc.) You know what to do!

I think it will grow on you once you stop thinking about the price. If you spent 80-100 hrs on Origins, I am sure you will find plenty of reasons to feel differently about Awakenings after "savoring" it a bit more.

Good Luck!

Rune crafting isn't really hard just tedious.

Buy a novice rune
buy or find a journeymen rune tracing
advance to journeymen rune crafting
make journeymen runes

rinse and repeat as you level.

[stumphumper]

vonFurious wrote...

Video Games are like bakery goods. Some have raisins and cinnamon, some are half-baked.

But they always will cost less when not as fresh.

Wait for it, I guarantee the price will come down as rapidly as day-old bread.

The price definitely needs to come down or they need to do some serious patching.  Don't get me wrong, not all was bad.  The new skills are great (though some a bit overpowerful in my opinion), some of the interactions between travelling companions are funny, but mostly just lewd comments between male and female characters or even male and male characters.  Anders was awesome, and Justice was alright, but I spent all this money on Origins, all the DLC for Origins, and then the expansion comes out where none of my DLC works or matters.  There is no real roleplay aspect.  Also, the game is way too easy, there's no real challenge (at least in hard mode, haven't bothered with nightmare yet as not sure I even feel like replaying it right now)  With Origins, I've gone through it a dozen times or more, made different choices, had different origins and classes, it was fun.  With Awakenings, it's a set storyline, very little changes based on decisions made.  If you're a diehard RPG fan and loved Origins, I'd recommend not wasting your money on this right now.  Wait until it hits the discount shelf or they release new DLC that's worth a damn for it.

Modifié par stumphumper, 21 mars 2010 - 07:45 .

[k3divine]

The expansion pack was alright . Game play was good and all . The issue with Dragon Age is you can't continue after you finish the game and that more quests should be included so after you finish the game you still get to play it .

[Hubb-]

Karmianna wrote...

Hubb- wrote...

Karmianna wrote...

Ferret A Baudoin wrote...

I'm glad to hear so many of you are enjoying it.

Umm you are selective reading I guess. 

You guys at Bioware should be ashamed. DAO was such a great game to tag this hack job with the Dragon Age title belittles the Original.

I personally was sadly disappointed and it will be a long time before I trust bioware enough to preorder any game from them.

I think you are being a little harsh here, or over dramatic.  I enjoyed Awakening just not as much as DA:O.  Knowing what I do now (as in, I finished the game) I'd still buy it if given the option to redo the purchase.  I understand this is a completely opinionated thing; some people will like it, some wont, and some will be in the middle.  I just think you are being a little too butt hurt here.

Can you honestly say that if games were grouped by over quality that Awakenings belongs on the same shelf as origins? This expansion is an obvious rush to sell something using a proven products name. It is certainly not worth the 40 dollar price tag. At best it was a big DLC worth maybe $15.00.

Oh don't get me wrong I like Origins much more than Awakening, just not to the extent you do.  I agree with you DLC viewpoint; that is how I viewed this expansion.  I don't agree with the $15 price tag though.  The amount of work that went into this (even if the work done wasn't in the direction you wanted it to go in) justifies the higher price, though I wish PC didn't get charged the same as console users .  I have seen far worse and far shorter games get sold for equal or more.  Now that isn't a "good" justification and I understand that.  

Do they belong on the same shelf?  Well I guess if you want to make a comparsion between the two it is tough.  Obviously Origins was a bigger game and had a lot more room for characters and the story to grow.  With how fast this expansion came out did people really expect a duration around the same length as Origins?  I didn't.

I understand you don't like it, but I enjoyed my time playing it.  Sure there were things I would have done differently if I had the chance/ability and yes, I did like Origins better.  The fact remains for me though, I don't regret my purchase and I can see myself playing Awakening multiple times just like I do with Origins.  As far as video games are concerned this was 40 dollars well spent.