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[shep82]

VaillainRath wrote...


Im Laughing with you Shep82.  I dont think he really knows what buggy really means. LOL:O

He should go back and play Occarina of Time. WHile a great game it sure isn't bug free.  And FFX, FFXII bug free? Yeah and I'm Santa Claus.

Modifié par shep82, 17 mars 2010 - 03:31 .

[Wicked 702]

shep82 wrote...

VaillainRath wrote...

Im Laughing with you Shep82.  I dont think he really knows what buggy really means. LOL:O

He should go back and play Occarina of Time. WHile a great game it sure isn't bug free.  And FFX, FFXII bug free? Yeah and I'm Santa Claus.

I played FFXII for over 200 hours. Not a single problem. Especially not the kind where saves get corrupted or games freeze, on a console no less (I'm talking about you Awakenings). What bugs were there in FFXII exactly?

Edited to remove the extra quote box.

Modifié par Wicked 702, 17 mars 2010 - 03:41 .

[Marwynn]

Well, let's see...

The Expansion starts with my Warden walking around naked. Apparently, Bioware's own DLCs aren't recognized. So my gear's gone for the most part.

I paused and put on whatever I had on hand from my last save, which wasn't much. Then I couldn't hit the darkspawn, or rather I couldn't kill them. I talked with the Survivor and chatted a bit with the "Escort" and proceeded to ignore the bugged darkspawn that were "killed" in a cutscene but weren't.

Then more Darkspawn arrived. And looked at each other lovingly, gazing into each other's eyes as they regenerated the damage I was hurling at them.

I quit.

How is it excusable that a 40 dollar expansion pack doesn't work with the $5 DLCs that were sold to fund it? Wow.

SW:TOR better be a kickass game.

[RobUnreal]

Wicked 702 wrote...

MassFrost wrote...

Why don't you post what, specifically, you're having problems with? I'm 6 hours in so far and have yet to encounter a bug, and have found it incredibly enjoyable so far. Your rant doesn't really hold much value unless you're willing to let BioWare know what exactly you're finding wrong with the game.

Let see. Since Awakenings using the same engine as DA: O, and they haven't patched the problems from the original, I'd say my specific list of problems with Awakenings can already be found under the numerous topics detailing the bugs with Origins. Oh and yes, there is confirmation of this fact with the dex bug.

The game is buggy because it's the exact same as Origins. Enough said....

Slow  down, turbo.  First of all, I expected it to be the same game as Origins because, well, it's an expansion on the original game.  Not a brand new game.

Yes, Awakening has bugs.  Many of which are the same as Origins.  Given the incredibly short dev time for Awakening, I'm not surprised.  That's what patches are for.

Lastly, regardless of the threads that detail all the bugs and problems with Origins it's still loved by most of the fans that complain about it.  

[danabe]

shep82 wrote...

 I'm Santa Claus.

Can i have presents this year please?

[DeadlyBlades621]

Marwynn wrote...

Well, let's see...

The Expansion starts with my Warden walking around naked. Apparently, Bioware's own DLCs aren't recognized. So my gear's gone for the most part.

I paused and put on whatever I had on hand from my last save, which wasn't much. Then I couldn't hit the darkspawn, or rather I couldn't kill them. I talked with the Survivor and chatted a bit with the "Escort" and proceeded to ignore the bugged darkspawn that were "killed" in a cutscene but weren't.

Then more Darkspawn arrived. And looked at each other lovingly, gazing into each other's eyes as they regenerated the damage I was hurling at them.

I quit.

How is it excusable that a 40 dollar expansion pack doesn't work with the $5 DLCs that were sold to fund it? Wow.

SW:TOR better be a kickass game.

Hit the power button, hit it again, import your character again, grab some kleenex.

It'll be okay.

[Wicked 702]

RobUnreal wrote...

Wicked 702 wrote...

MassFrost wrote...

Why don't you post what, specifically, you're having problems with? I'm 6 hours in so far and have yet to encounter a bug, and have found it incredibly enjoyable so far. Your rant doesn't really hold much value unless you're willing to let BioWare know what exactly you're finding wrong with the game.

Let see. Since Awakenings using the same engine as DA: O, and they haven't patched the problems from the original, I'd say my specific list of problems with Awakenings can already be found under the numerous topics detailing the bugs with Origins. Oh and yes, there is confirmation of this fact with the dex bug.

The game is buggy because it's the exact same as Origins. Enough said....

Slow  down, turbo.  First of all, I expected it to be the same game as Origins because, well, it's an expansion on the original game.  Not a brand new game.

Yes, Awakening has bugs.  Many of which are the same as Origins.  Given the incredibly short dev time for Awakening, I'm not surprised.  That's what patches are for.

Lastly, regardless of the threads that detail all the bugs and problems with Origins it's still loved by most of the fans that complain about it.  

Short development time. It's been mentioned, by Bioware pensonnel no less, on many occasions that development on Awakenings started more than a year ago. Did you really think they started in November?

Edit: By the way, the whole patches argument is pointless considering the console versions have not seen a single bug fix since game release. But I know PCs are superior and platform war, yada yada.

Modifié par Wicked 702, 17 mars 2010 - 03:38 .

[Domyk]

@Marwynn



if you really had some brains you could uhh create a new save, dump the gear you noticed was not transferring, hit the npc and restock before importing again?.... This would take maybe 5 minutes of your time?



Difficult, I know

[Marwynn]

Yeah, because it's utterly my fault that the content Bioware made isn't being transferred over.



That's why I went to an earlier save where I did have some better plate items.



That still doesn't stop the darkspawn from bugging out. Nor is a WORKAROUND a good excuse for why Bioware's own content isn't working on their own expansion.

[Grimgor79]

RobUnreal wrote...

Wicked 702 wrote...

MassFrost wrote...

Why don't you post what, specifically, you're having problems with? I'm 6 hours in so far and have yet to encounter a bug, and have found it incredibly enjoyable so far. Your rant doesn't really hold much value unless you're willing to let BioWare know what exactly you're finding wrong with the game.

Let see. Since Awakenings using the same engine as DA: O, and they haven't patched the problems from the original, I'd say my specific list of problems with Awakenings can already be found under the numerous topics detailing the bugs with Origins. Oh and yes, there is confirmation of this fact with the dex bug.

The game is buggy because it's the exact same as Origins. Enough said....

Slow  down, turbo.  First of all, I expected it to be the same game as Origins because, well, it's an expansion on the original game.  Not a brand new game.

, YesAwakening has bugs.  Many of which are the same as Origins.  Given the incredibly short dev time for Awakening, I'm not surprised.  That's what patches are for.

Lastly, regardless of the threads that detail all the bugs and problems with Origins it's still loved by most of the fans that complain about it.  

 the bolded part is where the problem comes in.  You guys (PC players) have patches and I'm glad you do, you deserve a relatively bug free gaming experience.

 Us (console players) do not have these patches, Bioware does'nt seem to want to give them to us for some reason and they will not comment on it so that we even know why we cant have them. IF we had the patches the Pc players have gotten I guarantee alot of us (me for 1) would shut the hell up and happily buy this expansion and whatever comes after this.

 It's been around 3 months since you guys got patch 1.02b, we're still swinging in the breeze hoping to get some good news some day.

[Stabbath123]

I've encountered a couple funny bugs. A helm in a rune slot, and my character was stuck in some humping motion during a bunch of cut screens. I was laughing out loud at that one.. Nothing game breaking yet. I much rather have the product sooner with some easy to live with bugs, that are also amusing than have to wait longer. I've only played a couple hours, love it so far.



I can think of no games that are released without bugs. If that is a requirement for you to enjoy yourself. I recommend a new hobby. OP didn't give details as to what sorts of bugs, at least in his first post. If in anyway they are serious bugs that's more understandable to gripe about.



40 bucks for an expansion is steep. That is, unless it's a huge expansion. I do not know how many hours of gameplay this thing has yet. I think the add ons were overpriced. They needed more content imo.But, better than nothing if you're a huge fan of the game like me.



The thing about video games is, ideally you WAIT to buy them. It's cheaper and more bugs are fixed. Either by fans or the devs. Something to keep in mind in the future if this sort of thing really irritates you. This is the first game I've bought in a very long time on release date btw. I knew ahead of time there would be bugs. It's inevitable.



My comments are about PC games. I don't play console games.

[Kendar Fleetfoot]

If you hated DA:O because it was buggy why did you buy the expansion??? I have said it elsewhere, it is what it is and having only played a few hours (PC) I am finding it enjoyable and have not had one issue. G

[gulegule]

Erruk wrote...

OK... I'll say it.. I know others want too:

Can I have your stuff?"

Only if it wasn't DLC!

[The_Abyss]

I dunno, bioware games have always been buggy from the get go in my experience with them. The same can be said for most PC games.



Which is why I never buy computer games the moment the come out.....unless its a Blizzard game, but that one isn't because they don't make buggy games.

[Wicked 702]

Stabbath123 wrote...

I've encountered a couple funny bugs. A helm in a rune slot, and my character was stuck in some humping motion during a bunch of cut screens. I was laughing out loud at that one.. Nothing game breaking yet. I much rather have the product sooner with some easy to live with bugs, that are also amusing than have to wait longer. I've only played a couple hours, love it so far.

I can think of no games that are released without bugs. If that is a requirement for you to enjoy yourself. I recommend a new hobby. OP didn't give details as to what sorts of bugs, at least in his first post. If in anyway they are serious bugs that's more understandable to gripe about.

40 bucks for an expansion is steep. That is, unless it's a huge expansion. I do not know how many hours of gameplay this thing has yet. I think the add ons were overpriced. They needed more content imo.But, better than nothing if you're a huge fan of the game like me.

The thing about video games is, ideally you WAIT to buy them. It's cheaper and more bugs are fixed. Either by fans or the devs. Something to keep in mind in the future if this sort of thing really irritates you. This is the first game I've bought in a very long time on release date btw. I knew ahead of time there would be bugs. It's inevitable.

My comments are about PC games. I don't play console games.

I can. Square Enix games - bug free. Enough said.

Still waiting for a rebuttal from the naysayers about FFXII up top.

[MassFrost]

Wicked 702 wrote...

Stabbath123 wrote...

I've encountered a couple funny bugs. A helm in a rune slot, and my character was stuck in some humping motion during a bunch of cut screens. I was laughing out loud at that one.. Nothing game breaking yet. I much rather have the product sooner with some easy to live with bugs, that are also amusing than have to wait longer. I've only played a couple hours, love it so far.

I can think of no games that are released without bugs. If that is a requirement for you to enjoy yourself. I recommend a new hobby. OP didn't give details as to what sorts of bugs, at least in his first post. If in anyway they are serious bugs that's more understandable to gripe about.

40 bucks for an expansion is steep. That is, unless it's a huge expansion. I do not know how many hours of gameplay this thing has yet. I think the add ons were overpriced. They needed more content imo.But, better than nothing if you're a huge fan of the game like me.

The thing about video games is, ideally you WAIT to buy them. It's cheaper and more bugs are fixed. Either by fans or the devs. Something to keep in mind in the future if this sort of thing really irritates you. This is the first game I've bought in a very long time on release date btw. I knew ahead of time there would be bugs. It's inevitable.

My comments are about PC games. I don't play console games.

I can. Square Enix games - bug free. Enough said.

Still waiting for a rebuttal from the naysayers about FFXII up top.

So go play Square Enix games to your heart's content instead of wasting time whining about BioWare. What's difficult about this?

[The_Abyss]

Wicked 702 wrote...

I can. Square Enix games - bug free. Enough said.

Still waiting for a rebuttal from the naysayers about FFXII up top.

Square's PC version of FF7/8 was buggy, just FYI.

After that they never made another PC RPG. Probably can't handle the debugging for all the different hardware configurations possible on a PC.

Plus, there was NEVER a western game company (on PC) that had a non buggy game.

Modifié par The_Abyss, 17 mars 2010 - 03:53 .

[Wicked 702]

MassFrost wrote...

So go play Square Enix games to your heart's content instead of wasting time whining about BioWare. What's difficult about this?

I'm not going to rehash everything I've posted in another thread. Simply put, I have a right to demand that a product I purchase be held to the highest standards. When it fails those standards, I have a right to voice my opinion until the issues are corrected.

[KnightofPhoenix]

How is it buggy? I have not experienced any technical problem as of yet.

[RobUnreal]

Wicked 702 wrote...

RobUnreal wrote...

Wicked 702 wrote...

MassFrost wrote...

Why don't you post what, specifically, you're having problems with? I'm 6 hours in so far and have yet to encounter a bug, and have found it incredibly enjoyable so far. Your rant doesn't really hold much value unless you're willing to let BioWare know what exactly you're finding wrong with the game.

Let see. Since Awakenings using the same engine as DA: O, and they haven't patched the problems from the original, I'd say my specific list of problems with Awakenings can already be found under the numerous topics detailing the bugs with Origins. Oh and yes, there is confirmation of this fact with the dex bug.

The game is buggy because it's the exact same as Origins. Enough said....

Slow  down, turbo.  First of all, I expected it to be the same game as Origins because, well, it's an expansion on the original game.  Not a brand new game.

Yes, Awakening has bugs.  Many of which are the same as Origins.  Given the incredibly short dev time for Awakening, I'm not surprised.  That's what patches are for.

Lastly, regardless of the threads that detail all the bugs and problems with Origins it's still loved by most of the fans that complain about it.  

Short development time. It's been mentioned, by Bioware pensonnel no less, on many occasions that development on Awakenings started more than a year ago. Did you really think they started in November?

Edit: By the way, the whole patches argument is pointless considering the console versions have not seen a single bug fix since game release. But I know PCs are superior and platform war, yada yada.

Really, that's funny, because I've also heard from Bioware personel that Dev time was less than a year ago.

As far as the patches argument,  the first patch was implemented into the console versions before their release while the PC players had to wait for the PC version to be released.  Also, XBox 360 players got also received patch 1.03 via XBox Live:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/94/index/1626900/1

And the PS3 version got its patch 12 days ago:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/68/index/1563412/1

[Wicked 702]

The_Abyss wrote...

Wicked 702 wrote...

I can. Square Enix games - bug free. Enough said.

Still waiting for a rebuttal from the naysayers about FFXII up top.

Square's PC version of FF7/8 was buggy, just FYI.

After that they never made another PC RPG. Probably can't handle the debugging for all the different hardware configurations possible on a PC.

Plus, there was NEVER a western game company (on PC) that had a non buggy game.

To be fair, let's compare apples to apples. In order for a proper comparison, we'd have to compare native platforms. So we need to compare Square Enix games on a console (what they were designed for) to Bioware games for a PC (what THEY were designed for). But that's still not a 100% fair comparison because the numerous PC configurations out lend their own breed of bugs. So we have to eliminate those from consideration.

What you are left with are the bugs that exist regardless of what configuration you play with. And the list of those bugs is pretty long. So yeah, I'd say Bioware fails the quality test.

[MassFrost]

Wicked 702 wrote...

MassFrost wrote...

So go play Square Enix games to your heart's content instead of wasting time whining about BioWare. What's difficult about this?

I'm not going to rehash everything I've posted in another thread. Simply put, I have a right to demand that a product I purchase be held to the highest standards. When it fails those standards, I have a right to voice my opinion until the issues are corrected.

So let me see if I understand, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. You were disappointed with the many bugs that have yet to be corrected in Origins, yet you gave BioWare more money for an expansion knowing the same bugs would still exist?

[Wicked 702]

RobUnreal wrote...

Wicked 702 wrote...

RobUnreal wrote...

Wicked 702 wrote...

MassFrost wrote...

Why don't you post what, specifically, you're having problems with? I'm 6 hours in so far and have yet to encounter a bug, and have found it incredibly enjoyable so far. Your rant doesn't really hold much value unless you're willing to let BioWare know what exactly you're finding wrong with the game.

Let see. Since Awakenings using the same engine as DA: O, and they haven't patched the problems from the original, I'd say my specific list of problems with Awakenings can already be found under the numerous topics detailing the bugs with Origins. Oh and yes, there is confirmation of this fact with the dex bug.

The game is buggy because it's the exact same as Origins. Enough said....

Slow  down, turbo.  First of all, I expected it to be the same game as Origins because, well, it's an expansion on the original game.  Not a brand new game.

Yes, Awakening has bugs.  Many of which are the same as Origins.  Given the incredibly short dev time for Awakening, I'm not surprised.  That's what patches are for.

Lastly, regardless of the threads that detail all the bugs and problems with Origins it's still loved by most of the fans that complain about it.  

Short development time. It's been mentioned, by Bioware pensonnel no less, on many occasions that development on Awakenings started more than a year ago. Did you really think they started in November?

Edit: By the way, the whole patches argument is pointless considering the console versions have not seen a single bug fix since game release. But I know PCs are superior and platform war, yada yada.

Really, that's funny, because I've also heard from Bioware personel that Dev time was less than a year ago.

As far as the patches argument,  the first patch was implemented into the console versions before their release while the PC players had to wait for the PC version to be released.  Also, XBox 360 players got also received patch 1.03 via XBox Live:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/94/index/1626900/1

And the PS3 version got its patch 12 days ago:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/68/index/1563412/1

Don't be daft. Read the forums a little. Consoles DID NOT get any of the fixes given to PC players in their 1.02 patch. The 1.03 patch for consoles should really be called 1.03 console version as it does not include ANY of those fixes. The dev who posted those patch notes just cut/paste them from the PC version without thinking.

Edit: Minor typo.

Modifié par Wicked 702, 17 mars 2010 - 04:01 .

[Wicked 702]

MassFrost wrote...

Wicked 702 wrote...

MassFrost wrote...

So go play Square Enix games to your heart's content instead of wasting time whining about BioWare. What's difficult about this?

I'm not going to rehash everything I've posted in another thread. Simply put, I have a right to demand that a product I purchase be held to the highest standards. When it fails those standards, I have a right to voice my opinion until the issues are corrected.

So let me see if I understand, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. You were disappointed with the many bugs that have yet to be corrected in Origins, yet you gave BioWare more money for an expansion knowing the same bugs would still exist?

I have not and will not purchase this expansion. You may have me confused with someone else.

Edit: My own words may have confused the issue since I used the word "purchase". I was referring to DA:O.

Modifié par Wicked 702, 17 mars 2010 - 04:05 .

[Marwynn]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

How is it buggy? I have not experienced any technical problem as of yet.

Therefore the game is bugfree because YOU didn't encounter any? 

That's rather narrowminded of you. It is bugfree for you. And also, you may simply have not noticed a bug.