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[Darkannex]

someone made the point (and I agree) that she failed to connect to the character you have in origins, but connected with the player. As such, it failed horribly and caused in me, at least, a disconnect from the game. I was more annoyed than appalled. My Cousland was mildly sad that an obviously loyal and well-intentioned soldier died, but hardly knew her so got over it quickly. She saw it before with Jory and Daveth.

[Nemesis7884]

i can't understand you people - i thought we want innovative, surprising, touching and emotional storys - but everytime some writer comes up with something that isnt 100% in line with everything that has been before and thats not completly predictable everybody starts crying?! i want storys that hit me out of the dark - thats the kind of story you will remember and not the one were you slayed 1500 orcs one after the other until lvl 100 - finish

Modifié par Nemesis7884, 17 mars 2010 - 07:40 .

[Darkannex]

Nem-that's not very constructive.

There's nothing wrong with me that what jerks my heartstrings dont jerk yours and vice-versa. I like drama and sudden twists as much as anyone. But many felt this particular situation could have been improved and made even more dramatic than a red-shirt moment.

[Noir201]

Nemesis7884 wrote...

i can't understand your people - i thought we want innovative, surprising, touching and emotional storys - but everytime some writer comes up with something that isnt 100% in line with everything that has been before and thats not completly predictable everybody starts crying?! i want storys that hit me out of the dark - thats the kind of story you will remember and not the one were you slayed 1500 orcs one after the other until lvl 100 - finish

Alot of it was cause it was cliched and pointless, what would have been innovative, as i posted in one of the threads from before, if it was random who died and not scripted. As it stands its falls in the same league as 1980 slasher film clich *if person has sex they die* and something i hope for in DA 2, players char takes joining and can randomly die from it, that is what you remember.

And the fact its called a red shirt moment, speaks for itself.

Modifié par Noir201, 17 mars 2010 - 07:45 .

[Darkannex]

Well to be honest-if they randomized it-people would just keep reloading to keep their favorites ( I know I would) so unless it's established at the start of the game who dies...(which I would still reload) then it would lead to aggravation overall I think.



Ideally I would have liked it to have Mhairi a bit longer. Learn more about her, emotionally invest in her as a character before she was killed. As it was-my Cousland wasn't really that traumatized by it - and I was just annoyed that I have to put up with Oghren's fart jokes now since he's tanking.

[Nemesis7884]

Noir201 wrote...

Nemesis7884 wrote...

i can't understand your people - i thought we want innovative, surprising, touching and emotional storys - but everytime some writer comes up with something that isnt 100% in line with everything that has been before and thats not completly predictable everybody starts crying?! i want storys that hit me out of the dark - thats the kind of story you will remember and not the one were you slayed 1500 orcs one after the other until lvl 100 - finish

Alot of it was cause it was cliched and pointless, what would have been innovative, as i posted in one of the threads from before, if it was random who died and not scripted. As it stands its falls in the same league as 1980 slasher film clich *if person has sex they die* and something i hope for in DA 2, players char takes joining and can randomly die from it, that is what you remember.

And the fact its called a red shirt moment, speaks for itself.

have to disagree completly with one statement - if a random person could die - THIS would be absolutly not remarkable and i guarantee you would not remember it - you would simply do it over and over again until the one dies that you like the least - sorry thats no drama, thats nonsense

all i can recall is ff7 - everybody loved aeris - it was an amazing moment when she died - and this is one of the major reason pretty much every gamer worldwide knows that game

[Darkannex]

Except you played with Aeris throughout a good part of the game. Mhairi....1 hour or so. It's like Daveth and Jory-do you even remember them at the end of origins?

[Noir201]

People remember that cause it was at the end, not at the start, in few days, this will be forgoten about.

[Nemesis7884]

who is daveth and jory?!

ps: noir - youre avatar is kind a hot...

Modifié par Nemesis7884, 17 mars 2010 - 08:02 .

[Darkannex]

hehe



For people that don't remember - they are the two that die at the start of Origins (not saying you don't know, Nem.)

[Kohaku]

Nemesis7884 wrote...

all i can recall is ff7 - everybody loved aeris - it was an amazing moment when she died - and this is one of the major reason pretty much every gamer worldwide knows that game

I'm glad you brought that up. I must be the only person in the world that disliked Final Fantasy 7. With that said, that was the single best point in the game to me. She was annoying and the only thing Sephiroth did in the game that made sense was to bump her off. Even when I played Crisis Core I was annoyed she was there. Hell, I WILL not watch the last five minutes of Final Fantasy: Advent Children because she's in it. I just didn't like her as a character. You're right though. It surely stuck with me.

[Noir201]

Nemesis7884 wrote...

who is daveth and jory?!

Not sure if your joking or really don't know so just going leave it at that

Edit : and thank you

Modifié par Noir201, 17 mars 2010 - 08:04 .

[Nemesis7884]

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

Nemesis7884 wrote...

all i can recall is ff7 - everybody loved aeris - it was an amazing moment when she died - and this is one of the major reason pretty much every gamer worldwide knows that game

I'm glad you brought that up. I must be the only person in the world that disliked Final Fantasy 7. With that said, that was the single best point in the game to me. She was annoying and the only thing Sephiroth did in the game that made sense was to bump her off. Even when I played Crisis Core I was annoyed she was there. Hell, I WILL not watch the last five minutes of Final Fantasy: Advent Children because she's in it. I just didn't like her as a character. You're right though. It surely stuck with me.

lol i knew anyone would write that... how can you not like her shes the mooooost lovely person there ever was (lol seriously, did not like her either so.... but in that game i thought some of the enemies were all way cooler then the party members anyway BUT i think thats exactly one of the key points of a good story)

Modifié par Nemesis7884, 17 mars 2010 - 08:08 .

[Red Viking]

I'll admit: It pissed me off that she died after that buildup.

I mean, I can see the reasoning behind the decision, and well-played BioWare.  It still pisses me off though.

Modifié par Red Viking, 17 mars 2010 - 08:32 .

[Tatooine92]

I didn't mind her death. I was a little surprised, but only a little. I was still giggling over Oghren the Grey Warden when she started choking on the Joining blood. My giggling stopped pretty quickly; I was like, "...huh." The first thing I thought of was what Alistair had to say back in Ostagar, about how only one recruit died at his Joining. I was like "Well! Lovely! At least it wasn't two out of three this time!"

And I have to admit, my character is usually the tank, so I was a bit upset that Mhairi was stealing my thunder. XD

Modifié par Tatooine92, 17 mars 2010 - 08:30 .

[Kohaku]

Nemesis7884 wrote...

lol i knew anyone would write that... how can you not like her shes the mooooost lovely person there ever was (lol seriously, did not like her either so.... but in that game i thought some of the enemies were all way cooler then the party members anyway BUT i think thats exactly one of the key points of a good story)

You are so right. I loved Rufus and Turks so much in that game. I would pay to play a game to be a Turk.

[Baramon]

Great expansion would have been oh-so-much greater if Mhairi hadn't been killed off like that. Definitely thought she would stay around; definitely wanted her to stay around; definitely ticked that she was killed off. No, not as bad as that massive amount of time invested in another likable character (Shandra Jerro) in NWN2, but it still hurt.

Definitely a strike against DAOA, in my book. But, still a good game.