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I Hate Nathaniel Howe


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PCousland

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Is there any sublte changes in how Delilah responds if your a HNM? As I recall in the Noble opening as a male Rendon makes mention that his daughter is quite smitten with you. So I was wondering if she makes any mention of that or anything similar.

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@Noir201 - I wasn't going to sleep until I had him in my clutches! :D

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Is there any sublte changes in how Delilah responds if your a HNM?




That's a good question. I had a HNF and she didn't even seem to realize I was there. Was very polite, though, and made sure to talk about how evil Howe was.



I didn't want to like Nathaniel when I first met him but when he started talking about how his family were just victims of being on the losing side of politics and how the Couslands deserved it for being traitors trying to sell Ferelden out to the Orlesians...I guess that would offend some people, but I just took it to mean he had no idea what was going on and lashing out at having lost everything. His situation is kind of like a less extreme version of what happened to the Couslands in DA.



He didn't seem to remember that it was his family who only joined Maric at the last second and he certainly didn't see to be aware that the attack on the Couslands happened before Ostagar which was before the Civil War. Since he's so obviously misinformed, how can you possibly hold his antipathy towards the person he views as taking away everything his family had (more or less correctly as they exposed Howe's crimes)? He does, notably, get over it far sooner than I expected.

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He's going to be hung when I play my Cousland. Family for a family.


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AnniLau

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Whailor wrote...

He's going to be hung when I play my Cousland. Family for a family.


Which is exactly the sort of thing he complains about...his entire family being held accountable for the things his father did, regardless of what good they've done in the past or may do in the future.

He wasn't even in the damn country at the time.

Modifié par AnniLau, 17 mars 2010 - 06:30 .


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I was planning to off him until I actually talked to him. He's a good guy who didn't know the whole situation.

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Costin_Razvan

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I liked him very much as a character.



Still Oghren and Valenna remain my favorites.

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Darkannex

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I loved the option to reply to his barb about enjoying having companions that tried to kill them.

It was along the lines of "some of my best friends have tried to kill me"

I squee'd.

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He was my favourite new character. Too bad we'll probably won't ever be able to see him again.

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Thor Rand Al

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Darkannex wrote...

I loved the option to reply to his barb about enjoying having companions that tried to kill them.
It was along the lines of "some of my best friends have tried to kill me"
I squee'd.




Lol I choose that 1 myself and it seemed like he didn't know what to think.

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Darkannex

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I know, it made me laugh. My Cousland has her own methods of exacting revenge. And turning daddy's little boy into a daddy hater is definitely on her list.

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Kohaku

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I'm going to make him love me. Last thing I do. :P

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AnniLau

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If any of these Companions had been romanceable, he would have been my choice.

And it would have been all Alistair's fault for abandoning me! After everything we'd been through too! :crying:

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Selej wrote...

His sister is a queen B towards you...*spoilers*well talks crap about you before she realizes you're the one she badmouths too.


That's strange, she didn't say anything bad about my HNF.

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Can;t wait to play as a rogue so I can not need him for chests and let him die. And he's an archer too? Wtf, just bring Lel back.....



I miss Morrigan.



Anders and his cat is NO Minsc and Boo. Ah, memories.

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KnightofPhoenix

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Selej wrote...

His sister is a queen B towards you...*spoilers*well talks crap about you before she realizes you're the one she badmouths too.


That's strange, she didn't say anything bad about my HNF.


That's because Rendon didn't pressure her to marry your HNF.
If it's a HNM, she says she didn't want to marry the "arrogant" Cousland boy (or somethign to that effect).

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Darkkyn46

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I haven't played long but he is growing on me pretty quickly actually. As has been stated, the "facts" he is basing his hatred on are inaccurate. As more comes to light he begins to see what really transpired. He also seems to be very easy to sway with gifts/dialog.

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AnniLau wrote...

If any of these Companions had been romanceable, he would have been my choice.


Ditto.

Instead, I'll have to add him to my ever-growing list of BioWare men that I wanted to romance, but couldn't.

Canderous, Bao-Dur, Loghain, Teagan, Zaeed, etc...

Why do you hate me, BioWare?  Image IPB

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yeah...if anything I won him over to my side too easily. Where's the spitting defiance and anger? just sweettalk you a tiny bit and you're eating birdseed from my hands.



...no wonder you thought daddy Howe was a hero.



*sigh* boy-men.



XD

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Thor Rand Al

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Ya but even if you get his approval up I did find out that he's still at odds even knowing what his dad really was. I caught a conversation banter between him n Oghren. I felt so bad about it.

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goofygoff wrote...

Instead, I'll have to add him to my ever-growing list of BioWare men that I wanted to romance, but couldn't.

Canderous, Bao-Dur, Loghain, Teagan, Zaeed, etc...

Why do you hate me, BioWare?  Image IPB

Heh, I expected to find one or two blistering threads on the recycling of Bann Sexy's VA for a much less god-like role.

I recognized several of the VAs, but he's the only one that gave me a gut reaction.  The voice just screams TEAAAGAAAN!

Modifié par Addai67, 17 mars 2010 - 11:22 .


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Tankenminnet

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He was incredibly generic, dull and not very interesting at all. I used him as a ranger and I felt that the bear he summoned had more personality then he did.

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DeathWyrmNexus wrote...

Oddly enough, I was fair and honest with him and already have him at moderate cunning. Seriously, he is in a situation any of us would be ****ing about and we would probably **** harder. Cut the kid some slack. He had a false view of his father and is being eased into the truth. As for his sister, eh, I said I was standing right there and got a good laugh from her reaction.

They talked and he learned the truth, so far, he just has to deal with it and let it grow on him. You know, like any human would have to...

Anders is a smartass, Oghren is a hilarious drunk, Howe is a guy coming to grips with a new paradigm vastly different from his own. Or you could just say emo kid and whitewash a complex character, I suppose that works too.

Though by all means, hang a lockpicker. XD



... I still can't stand him.  The only reason he comes along at all is because he's useful at the moment.  The instant that he's not, he gets murdered.  BioWare knew what they were doing because if he had been another warrior, or mage, he's dead. 

And so far, I haven't come across anything in the locked chests that would be that really beneficial.  Although, I'm only 5 or 6 hours into it.

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Nathaniel was a bit of an ass at first to me, but once he joined he was cordial, when we met his sis she was actually really nice to me, and called her father evil (points for her!). And after that Nathaniel is like my best bud..if there were romances I think he'd love me...so I like him...

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Wait, what? Nathaniel Howe is awesome. Even as HN, you can get on his good side pretty quickly with gifts, and then he's a decent guy.