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I'll admit that I thought the interaction between Alistair and his lover/wife was appropriate. He's the king, and you're the Commander of the Grey Wardens. It would be inappropriate for them to be all over each other, there is a level of decorum necessary for the King and Queen/Commander. But why does he even show up at all and then leaves like 10 minutes later? Couldn't all that just be accomplished in a letter?



I agree, no one ever referred to me as the Queen, and I thought that was weird. Okay, I was willing to over look that. I'm just arguing that if BW wanted to put him in the game at all, it should have just been more meaningful. Even bumping into Wynne seemed pointless.

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LOST_PriNcEsS_ wrote...

I'll admit that I thought the interaction between Alistair and his lover/wife was appropriate. He's the king, and you're the Commander of the Grey Wardens. It would be inappropriate for them to be all over each other, there is a level of decorum necessary for the King and Queen/Commander. But why does he even show up at all and then leaves like 10 minutes later? Couldn't all that just be accomplished in a letter?


I wondered that, too. I guess they figured there had to be some tie-in back to Origins?

What I really want to know is why he showed up, like, two hours after the PC? Since I've only played a HN so far, I'm telling myself that they travelled together until about an hour out, and he made her go ahead so that his arrival wouldn't undermine her own. Either that or he was just hiding behind a tree until I finished up with the darkspawn. Wouldn't want to get any blood on his shiny new armor.

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darkmax1974 wrote...

Which guy's point of view? I found Alister cowardly and shunning responsibilities in DAO. Not much of a hero in him, but I guess some girls do like guys like him.

You're a brave man, posting this in a thread full of Alistair fangirls.

Fangirlism aside, I obviously disagree strenuously with you.  Amazes me that people actually seem to prefer that the male lead in DA:O should have been a plastic Hollywood muscle-bound hero or a humdrum paladin.  Just pencil in your stereotype and leave the actual characters to the rest of us to enjoy, eh?

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SurelyForth wrote...

LOST_PriNcEsS_ wrote...

I'll admit that I thought the interaction between Alistair and his lover/wife was appropriate. He's the king, and you're the Commander of the Grey Wardens. It would be inappropriate for them to be all over each other, there is a level of decorum necessary for the King and Queen/Commander. But why does he even show up at all and then leaves like 10 minutes later? Couldn't all that just be accomplished in a letter?


I wondered that, too. I guess they figured there had to be some tie-in back to Origins?

What I really want to know is why he showed up, like, two hours after the PC? Since I've only played a HN so far, I'm telling myself that they travelled together until about an hour out, and he made her go ahead so that his arrival wouldn't undermine her own. Either that or he was just hiding behind a tree until I finished up with the darkspawn. Wouldn't want to get any blood on his shiny new armor.


Yea, I kind of figured that the whole "talking to Alistair" would happen at the very beginning of the game, as like, "You need to go to Amaranthine now." Considering I'm his mistress and Chancellor, I was with him in Denerim, wouldn't he have just said bye to me there? Or arrived with me instead of 2 hours late? He must have just been coming from somewhere else...or maybe I came to Amaranthine directly from visiting my clan or something. But yea...its not like Amaranthine is on the way from Denerim to the Bannorn...more the complete opposite direction. So he should have stayed longer...

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Well I assumed the kis on the cheek (and thats what it is, he gives you a "proper" goodbye) and bowing is because you are surrounded by his soldiers and your recruits. Gotta keep some semblance of manners and decorum.

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Ok, I know this really isn't the thread but did anyone have Alistair act snarky with them. I saved Loghain, so I assumed he would be. When he greeted me he and said his "At least the hero of Ferelden survived" One of my choices was. "Don't look so disappointed." Which I picked and he said "Oh I am sure I'll somehow manage" (something like that, very snarky) Was that a choice for anyone else?

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Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

darkmax1974 wrote...

wolfpup121989 wrote...

lol got to love the Alistair fans i admit he was cool from a guys point of view


Which guy's point of view? I found Alister cowardly and shunning responsibilities in DAO. Not much of a hero in him, but I guess some girls do like guys like him.


I actually want to smack some tough guy into him but what can you do? ~Shrug~



From some videos I've seen, if you get him to -100 approval you get to see his tough guy side o.O just look up "angry alistair" on youtube...

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@MutantSpleen - Nope. Sorry. :\\\\ I haven't saved Loghain on any play though yet but I will down the line. I'd image he'd be quite angry with you.

@Aveiceae - Hm. I will do! ~Runs off to Youtube~

Just watched it Aveiceae. I can feel the smack in the face from all the way over here. He gets right mad. :lol:

Modifié par Kerridan Kaiba, 17 mars 2010 - 05:19 .


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Addai67 wrote...

darkmax1974 wrote...

Which guy's point of view? I found Alister cowardly and shunning responsibilities in DAO. Not much of a hero in him, but I guess some girls do like guys like him.

You're a brave man, posting this in a thread full of Alistair fangirls.

Fangirlism aside, I obviously disagree strenuously with you.  Amazes me that people actually seem to prefer that the male lead in DA:O should have been a plastic Hollywood muscle-bound hero or a humdrum paladin.  Just pencil in your stereotype and leave the actual characters to the rest of us to enjoy, eh?



YES! Besides, if you toughen him up he's more willing to accept being a king and such, but honestly, only mad men would truly WANT to be king, he wasn't a coward, just smart...

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darkmax1974 wrote...

wolfpup121989 wrote...

lol got to love the Alistair fans i admit he was cool from a guys point of view


Which guy's point of view? I found Alister cowardly and shunning responsibilities in DAO. Not much of a hero in him, but I guess some girls do like guys like him.


*polishes up Alistair Defense Squad badge*

If Alistair is made King (which is what this thread is about) he obviously has not been cowardly or shunned duties in that particular game.  He's quite a bit more of a hero than Loghain "Crazy Eyes" MacTraitor.

Coming into every Alistair related thread and bringing up the mere possibility that Alistair leaves the party is like going into every single Zevran thread and proclaiming you killed him before he woke up.  Not everyone's experience is going to be like yours.

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Ah, Alistair... Why, oh why does he appear only once and briefly too in Awakening? I hope someone will tell me I missed another chance for a naughty whisper along the way...

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LOST_PriNcEsS_ wrote...

I'll admit that I thought the interaction between Alistair and his lover/wife was appropriate. He's the king, and you're the Commander of the Grey Wardens. It would be inappropriate for them to be all over each other, there is a level of decorum necessary for the King and Queen/Commander.

*sigh*  So practical.  Image IPB

Upthread I am posting tongue-in-cheek, of course.  I was glad we got any acknowledgement of the relationship.  I had steeled myself for it to be all business.

Modifié par Addai67, 17 mars 2010 - 08:30 .


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Everyone will have liked a little more longer interaction with the lover their had in Originan when their pc is being sending off. So I am glad that at least, that Alistair do that.

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Addai67 wrote...

I even found it odd that my character bowed to Alistair. I could see that before they're married, but I'm the queen, dammit! Let everyone else get down on one knee... while they're bowing with heads lowered is the perfect opportunity for an Orlesian kiss with the lord husband!


Well, traditionally a Queen would always bow to her King in public - but I understand what you're saying completely.

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Bratt1204 wrote...

Well, traditionally a Queen would always bow to her King in public - but I understand what you're saying completely.

Oh?  I didn't know that.

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But still, it's Alistair. Anyone else under the impression he would object to such formality from his wife/lover/friend? It seems somehow out of character.



For all the squeeing I did that he actually has some sweet lines and a chaste kiss, storywise his appearance is so pointless it's almost annoying.

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I already had this scene in my head... because I do this, which is probably why I don't get any work done... of my PC at his coronation postlude, in the Highever delegation with Fergus, kneeling as the newly crowned king passes by. Alistair comes up to her, lifts her to her feet, and gives her a big smackeroo while the onlookers cheer. But at this point she would be engaged and not herself princess-consort, so I thought the kneeling would be appropriate.

I think I imagined this out because it seems strange that your PC is nowhere to be seen in the coronation, so I figured she must be in the crowd. Oh, and because, as I mentioned, my mind wanders during clerical work.

Modifié par Addai67, 17 mars 2010 - 09:40 .


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klarabella wrote...

But still, it's Alistair. Anyone else under the impression he would object to such formality from his wife/lover/friend? It seems somehow out of character.

For all the squeeing I did that he actually has some sweet lines and a chaste kiss, storywise his appearance is so pointless it's almost annoying.


Not if he is harden, he is quite formal.

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Walina wrote...
Not if he is harden, he is quite formal.

That so? It never made any difference beside the fact that he's more willing to be king and stand up for what he wants. If anything hardened Alistair is more the type not to care about decorum and kiss you full on. He's the King now - who would stop him? ;-) Ok, Arl Eamon may give him a lecture.

Oh well, doesn't really matter. It's a fast food appearance anyway - sweet, brief, squee-worthy but still somehow unsatisfying.

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I'm the King- I mean prince, and Anora never gave me a kiss <=(

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darkmax - the reason Alister is appealing is that as you love him, he blossoms into someone worthy of that love.

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DrSharon wrote...

darkmax - the reason Alister is appealing is that as you love him, he blossoms into someone worthy of that love.


How beautiful and true.

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man, i made a character where i became king, and i was hoping he would be a companion here, like zevran who agreed to follow me. i didnt see either of them sadly, i was hoping to get to brofist alistair and listen to zevran make semi dirty comments about everything we do. i was kinda let down by awakening, it was fun, but i was hoping for a bit more

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Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

darkmax1974 wrote...

wolfpup121989 wrote...

lol got to love the Alistair fans i admit he was cool from a guys point of view


Which guy's point of view? I found Alister cowardly and shunning responsibilities in DAO. Not much of a hero in him, but I guess some girls do like guys like him.


I actually want to smack some tough guy into him but what can you do? ~Shrug~


That's why we harden him up so to speak. Image IPB

Modifié par galesong1234, 18 mars 2010 - 07:23 .


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So, has anyone finished Awakenings? Do we get to see Alistair again, hopefully? Did run into Wynne. Maybe there will be others.

Mistress, he refers to you as "my love" and wife is kinda cute. He calls you "Wife" and "Love."

But as you said most of us are queens (that didn't sound right). The only thing you get the Senschel says you have the same power as an Arlessa. I imported Queen, Chancellor, Lover & Cousland. Also imported Mistress/Chencellor they all refer to you as commander.

Modifié par galesong1234, 18 mars 2010 - 07:28 .