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[Corephyfish]

I just closed my eyes and pretended Alistair was there, especially when Anders was talknig, he looks and talks so much like him sometimes its uncanny, I don't know if its already been said or if its obvious or not but i'm thinknig here may be a familial connection there too...



Also I did like Nathaniel even though his father killed my family and had people tortured, he came around in the end. If there HAD been added in romances in Awakenings Nathaniel would have been a surprisingly good one, expecially for a Cousland.

[nos_astra]

Thor Rand Al wrote...
I was going oh please please let me tempt you, get rid of Eamon n have some fun at the same time

Tempting Alistair, having him with you for snogging, snuggling and what else you need him for while Eamon is having heart attack. That's what they call a win:win situation.

[errant_knight]

Addai67 wrote...

I guess it's the little things, but I have to say, it felt pretty formal and stiff for an "in love" couple. I was guessing that it was the same scene whether you were in a political marriage to Alistair or a love match. I guess a quickie in the guard shack was too much to hope for. LOL

Kings and queens are supposed to be formal in front of their subjects--and the scene has to be suitable for a queen as well as a lover. Rule number 56 for rulers: Don't make out in front of the peasants.

Between the dialogue and the expression on Alistair's face before the kiss on the cheek, I was more than a little impressed at how very unchaste the moment seemed given how entirely family friendly it actually was. Pretty sure that the royal carpenter is kept busy as the royal bed spontaneously combusts on a regular basis.

[sylvanaerie]

errant_knight wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

I guess it's the little things, but I have to say, it felt pretty formal and stiff for an "in love" couple. I was guessing that it was the same scene whether you were in a political marriage to Alistair or a love match. I guess a quickie in the guard shack was too much to hope for. LOL

Kings and queens are supposed to be formal in front of their subjects--and the scene has to be suitable for a queen as well as a lover. Rule number 56 for rulers: Don't make out in front of the peasants.

Between the dialogue and the expression on Alistair's face before the kiss on the cheek, I was more than a little impressed at how very unchaste the moment seemed given how entirely family friendly it actually was. Pretty sure that the royal carpenter is kept busy as the royal bed spontaneously combusts on a regular basis.

It didn't look like a kiss on the cheek to me, it looked more like he leaned in close to whisper something to the PC. The slightly amused expression on her face and the slight nod all sweet gestures to complete the moment.  In all I was very happy with the brief if sweet nod to my PC's romance with him.  Just wish they had offered more to those who DIDN'T make him king (or chose someone else like Zev/Leli).

[SurelyForth]

errant_knight wrote...

Between the dialogue and the expression on Alistair's face before the kiss on the cheek, I was more than a little impressed at how very unchaste the moment seemed given how entirely family friendly it actually was. Pretty sure that the royal carpenter is kept busy as the royal bed spontaneously combusts on a regular basis.

And I'm pretty sure the palace staff is glad that they have a brief reprieve from having to make a ton of noise before they enter any room where the royal couple might be alone. You know, fair warning and all that.

[errant_knight]

SurelyForth wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

Between the dialogue and the expression on Alistair's face before the kiss on the cheek, I was more than a little impressed at how very unchaste the moment seemed given how entirely family friendly it actually was. Pretty sure that the royal carpenter is kept busy as the royal bed spontaneously combusts on a regular basis.

And I'm pretty sure the palace staff is glad that they have a brief reprieve from having to make a ton of noise before they enter any room where the royal couple might be alone. You know, fair warning and all that.

LOL! Yeah. I was thinking that it must have been a bit of a shock for the staff.

[LadyDamodred]

I thought it kind of looked like whispering and kiss on the cheek. I can totally understand the formality, though. In front of your men, it's not a good idea to start making out. As for the kneeling, my queen is fine with it. She understands rank and how you need to appear in front of troops.



Also, what's with all the Eamon hate? Sheesh. I liked the guy. My Cousland completely understand where he is coming from. Yes, it's not pretty, but it is realistic and she understands the politics behind it. It's one of the reasons I did a Cousland/Eamon story to show that side of the characters.

[Nhadalie]

Anders sounds more like Cullen than Alistair. Which would be because Greg Eillis voiced both Cullen and Anders. Take away the stuttering, and give Cullen some alcohol to loosen up, and they'd sound exactly the same.



Back on topic though. I actually really did like Alistair's cameo with a HNF married to him. It was very cute. Though in my mind, it was a bit less formal, and everyone was scandalized by it.(For my HNF anyway.)

Kendra:Alistair? ~pounces him~

Mhairi:..Did she just jump on the King?

Oghren: Yep. You should've seen it the last time that happened.

Anders: She throws herself at men often then? I should remember that.. ~mutters~

Alistair: And here I hoped to rescue you for once. I heard about the attack as we were approaching. Pity, I kind of miss the darkspawn killing thing.

Kendra: I'll let you save me later, dear husband, I promise.

Alistair: Suddenly, I really regret having to return to court.


I do understand the formality and everything. But hells, who cares about formality when you're using so much innuendo that everyone knows what you're talking about anyway? I'm surprised Oghren wasn't over there explaining what they meant in weird terms to Mhairi or someone.(Donning the velvet hat indeed.)


I have to admit though, I love Nathaniel. Possibly even more than Alistair now. I know, I'm a traitor. How terrible. But a relationship between Nathaniel and a fem-Cousland would be amazing. Likewise with one for Anders and a female mage PC.

Modifié par Nhadalie, 22 mars 2010 - 03:38 .

[Marso40]

Was anyone as king able to score a kiss from Queen Anora? That frigid beeyotch blew me off pretty hard. Hurt my one manly feeling and all that.

[Ceridraen]

What happens if you made Anora queen, & stayed a warden with (unhardened) Alistair as your lover? (or I suppose you might marry, if he's not king - all of which is supremely stupid, I thought. They'll let an elf pick their king, but heaven forbid she marry her boyfriend...) Is that the scenario where you both disappear together?

[Auresta]

@Ceridraen: Yes, I believe it is. 99% sure of it

[Ceridraen]

Well, that figures! (and thanks for the answer, Auresta!) That's my favorite ending. (I'd hate to be queen myself) - but I thought - oooh, romantic scene if I mod my elf to Queendom. I'd rather go off to some mysterious ending with my man, reason unclarified except by me, than leave him stuck in a castle alone. /twitch

Off to reload an old save!

Modifié par Ceridraen, 22 mars 2010 - 04:48 .

[Lara Denton]

Ceridraen wrote...

Well, that figures! (and thanks for the answer, Auresta!) That's my favorite ending. (I'd hate to be queen myself) - but I thought - oooh, romantic scene if I mod my elf to Queendom. I'd rather go off to some mysterious ending with my man, reason unclarified except by me, than leave him stuck in a castle alone. /twitch

Off to reload an old save!

Alistair was king in my game and in the end he "run off" with the elven mage. That is to say I got the same ending as if he wasn't king. I don't know if it's a bug or that's how is suppose to happen. What I'm trying to say here is that you can get to see him and have the pretty ending.

Modifié par laradenton, 22 mars 2010 - 04:54 .

[Ceridraen]

Oh! That's promising. Did you use the 'he can marry whoever he wants' mod, too?

It works with a mage. I consider it a spell I cast over the entire populace of slow-witted humans. Morrigan would have been impressed.


eta:  Wait - you mean YOUR elven mage, & not Velanna, I hope?  Because I might have to explode her otherwise...

Modifié par Ceridraen, 22 mars 2010 - 05:02 .

[Lara Denton]

Ceridraen wrote...

Oh! That's promising. Did you use the 'he can marry whoever he wants' mod, too?

It works with a mage. I consider it a spell I cast over the entire populace of slow-witted humans. Morrigan would have been impressed.

No, no mods. It was the mistress encounter which is pretty similar to the wife one, only he calls the warden love all the time instead of wife and love.

I wasn't expecting that ending because it didn't mention how he wasn't king anymore. But I guess kings are more willing to give up the throne for mistresses than wives?

I have no idea why the ending plays the way it does, while he's king, with the wife going away alone and with the
mistress going away with him.



Edited to re-arrange the text.

Modifié par laradenton, 22 mars 2010 - 05:11 .

[Lara Denton]

Ceridraen wrote...

Oh! That's promising. Did you use the 'he can marry whoever he wants' mod, too?

It works with a mage. I consider it a spell I cast over the entire populace of slow-witted humans. Morrigan would have been impressed.


eta:  Wait - you mean YOUR elven mage, & not Velanna, I hope?  Because I might have to explode her otherwise...

Ha, ha! That's funny. He never meets Velanna.

[Ceridraen]

That WE know about...



So he has to be hardened? Well, rats. I hate changing people.

[errant_knight]

Ceridraen wrote...

That WE know about...

So he has to be hardened? Well, rats. I hate changing people.

It doesn't change him. He's still the same guy. It just makes him confident enough to stand by his own decisions and include his feelings in the decision making process rather than dismissing them entirely. It doesn't make him cynical or selfish, and his ideas about honor still get in his way.

[Ceridraen]

Hm - well, that's weird. So if you're a noble woman, you run off alone. If you're a mistress or girlfriend of a fellow warden, you run off together. I wonder why that is?



I harden him on my male characters - I didn't see much difference, but I hate that 'everyone is out for themselves' line. Could I possibly issue a greater sweeping statement of the totally unknowable? And my little elf is not a cynic. Still... I can't endure humans. So there has to be a better way.

[Lara Denton]

Ceridraen wrote...

That WE know about...

I could see her falling for Alistair with all her hatred, but Alistair will not fall for her. (I'm joking, of course, they would hate eachother).

So he has to be hardened? Well, rats. I hate changing people.

In the Origins, yes, otherwise there would not have been any king and mistress relationship.

[Ceridraen]

Oh, ok. Thanks. I've never tried it. I got so mad at the elf-can't-marry thing that I made male characters instead. (they seem to do whatever they want) So... to get this pleasant ending, I have to trot back & harden him. Oh, hell!

Hmmm. I wonder what happens in my original, which no one but me seems to do? Which is make Anora take the job, & he & I putter happily around?

And yes, I can't imagine Velanna with anyone. Maybe Nathaniel.  But she doesn't seem like the romantic sort, not even in an "I don't love you - I do!" Morrigan way.

Modifié par Ceridraen, 22 mars 2010 - 05:39 .

[Lara Denton]

Ceridraen wrote...

Hmmm. I wonder what happens in my original, which no one but me seems to do? Which is make Anora take the job, & he & I putter happily around?

The ending is the same. Is just that if you make Anora queen, you get to see her instead of Alistair.

[Ceridraen]

I wonder why he'll run off with his mistress but not his noble woman wife? That's odd. You didn't make him marry Anora, I assume? I was thinking it might be because they have to have a king or queen left in charge. How very odd!

[Addai]

Ceridraen wrote...

I wonder why he'll run off with his mistress but not his noble woman wife? That's odd. You didn't make him marry Anora, I assume? I was thinking it might be because they have to have a king or queen left in charge. How very odd!

I assume it's because he's king and has responsibilities.  I hope it's also because he has an heir, preferably a legitimate one!

[Addai]

Ceridraen wrote...

Hmmm. I wonder what happens in my original, which no one but me seems to do? Which is make Anora take the job, & he & I putter happily around?

And yes, I can't imagine Velanna with anyone. Maybe Nathaniel.  But she doesn't seem like the romantic sort, not even in an "I don't love you - I do!" Morrigan way.

On my 1st character, a city elf, I made Anora sole ruler, but it made me so unhappy to see Alistair disclaim the throne for himself and his heirs that I never did it again.

My Dalish elf romanced Alistair and I think it was possibly the most romantic Alistair ending I've had, though bittersweet.  For nostalgia's sake I just went back and loaded an old save to replay where he asks her about Dalish funeral practices, which was the first time a little ****** fell out of her anti-shem armor.  He sounds so moved and sincere as he says "that is really beautiful."

She came to see the Wardens as her "clan"- couldn't go back to Dalish life, after all- and from there it was not so hard for her to fall in love with Alistair.  She was the daughter of a keeper (descendants of Arlathan nobility) who grew up rough, he was the son of a king who grew up sleeping in stables.  It was beautiful in a melancholic way.  Melancholic, of course, because she had to share him with a political wife.  I think the mistress epilogue is more romantic than the consort one, however, even in Origins.

Modifié par Addai67, 22 mars 2010 - 06:06 .