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[lynxxyarly]

It doesn't make much sense to me. Can Bioware chime in here and really explain to me how they thought it was a good idea to not include DLC such as warden's keep in this new expansion? You know, the stuff we paid for - like this current DLC? 

I'm especially annoyed with the fact that I can't have my power of blood line. It's even worse in the fact that when I loaded my character up and looked at the sheet there was just an errored out message where power of blood line would be and the icons still existed, but they were nondescript.

I mean, really? It's like buying a car and putting new tires on it and then taking it in to the dealer again for another upgrade and then they take your tires away and tell you that you can't have them anymore - for no reason at all. See how much sense that makes? That is about as much sense as taking away DLC we paid for just to get more DLC.

This isn't just a rant. I feel ripped off - cheated, if you will. I paid for something and I don't expect it to be taken away from me just so I can buy something else later and have it probably taken away in the same fashion. 

What really burns me is how the coding is still pseudo-there for the specific stuff I mentioned. It's like Bioware got lazy and decided not to try and make it work, so instead they decided to have broken code just exist in the expansion. Why wouldn't you even code it out? It's probably for the same reason it doesn't exist. Because you didn't want to code it, period. From a fellow Coder point of view, that right there just shows how unprofessional people are in the games they make. Simple coding issues such as this is not something you just want to overlook and expect it to be ok!

This isn't just some other random rant. I really feel wronged by Bioware in this regard, and I'm sure others feel the same way, too.

But, what does Bioware care about it? They already got my money. Well, I'm sad to say, but this is the last time they will receive my money. I already felt sort of cheated from the first game because I expected a lot better polishing job than what the game exists in its current state - even today, the game still is broken. Dex issues, the shape-shifting, Ranger specialization, to name a few. This just shows the same kind of shoddy craftsmanship of the first game. It's really sad, too, because the game was unbelievable in the story and character interactions. I have a lot of praise for the first game, but to have those same issues reoccur in this expansion - no. This isn't right and I think it's time people stand up and tell companies how they feel - using their wallets. 

You shouldn't be allowed to make mistakes like this and take peoples' money and expect them to just 'deal' with the fact that this program is unfinished.



 

[Sabriana]

Well, there's a mod on dragonage nexus that seems to allow transfer. I have no clue if/how it works, just fyi. It's called:

DLC to work with Awakening, created by KigenAngelo

That was quick, wasn't it? Ah, what would we do without the modders?

I know that doesn't help you with your feelings of being cheated, but it might be worth a look-at.

Unless you're on a console. Then the mod doesn't do  much for you in the first place.

Modifié par Sabriana, 17 mars 2010 - 09:19 .

[Flash Aron]

... please could someone post the link for everyone of us, where we could get the mod that really transfer everything from our last save game from DA:O to DA:A

would be very nice and would help many of us ...



A JOKE that Bioware refused to do that official in DA:A ... I spent about 140h to collect that items and money, so to take it from my char is like beeing robbed in real live and would make me very sad.



Thank you to the modders ! Bioware so you are somehow thieves, aren't you ... a big minus to the devs of DA:A shame on you !

[Cyjack]

They didnt *refuse* to do the import...it was simply problematic, and they chose to spend limited development time elsewhere, rather than solving that particular problem, as most of the dlc is rendered quickly obsolete.



Given the ease with which the community patched the issue to allow DLC to import though, it does kind of make you scratch your head.

[Rad_Child]

Here's the unofficial patch: http://filesmelt.com...-In-One-874.zip

[DCynic]

Cyjack wrote...

They didnt *refuse* to do the import...it was simply problematic, and they chose to spend limited development time elsewhere, rather than solving that particular problem, as most of the dlc is rendered quickly obsolete.

Given the ease with which the community patched the issue to allow DLC to import though, it does kind of make you scratch your head.

When in doubt, point at EA?

That or wait for their public relations team to think up a new elaborate excuse to sell, either way brings you to the usual fanboi vs skeptic scenario eventually.

[yiasmin]

DCynic wrote...

Cyjack wrote...

They didnt *refuse* to do the import...it was simply problematic, and they chose to spend limited development time elsewhere, rather than solving that particular problem, as most of the dlc is rendered quickly obsolete.

Given the ease with which the community patched the issue to allow DLC to import though, it does kind of make you scratch your head.

When in doubt, point at EA?

That or wait for their public relations team to think up a new elaborate excuse to sell, either way brings you to the usual fanboi vs skeptic scenario eventually.

Or maybe the internet now has the power to make any of us, including Bioware, look like fools.

[DCynic]

That's not the Internet's doing

[lynxxyarly]

I actually looked earlier today for a patch. Didn't come up with any immediate hits. My powers of searching failed me, it seems. Or it came up later than when I searched. *shrug*

Either way, I'll give this a look. But really, what most people have done in mods to 'fix't his game, makes me question why it wasn't so easily fixed by the actual creators of this game.

I guess I take pride in my coding when I do work for others benefit. Or, we could just blame EA for pushing yet another game out the door before it was ready?

Either way, thanks for the responses.

EDIT: To clarify, I'm mostly only interested in the extra spells you acquire from warden's keep. All gear is mostly rendered irrelevant since you will gain better gear in this expansion. However, loading up the game being naked also isn't a nice thing (Something else I can't figure out how Bioware knew was going to happen and just overlooked and allowed to just happen!)

Modifié par lynxxyarly, 17 mars 2010 - 11:51 .

[Phonantiphon]

The DLC was for the Origins game, not this one.

Sorry but I fail to see what the problem is.

[Jenocide]

We Canadian's are just overall evil people i blame it on the cold !

[Louis deGuerre]

/signed



If we pay for DLC stuff, we want to be able to use it in the expansions as well.



Blame Canada !

[Pubknight]

The main problem with items not importing is only a small percentage of game players would ever visit the forums... forums typically are for the diehard fan.

I have a lot more games I have never visited a forum for than games that I have.

So for those people, the majority of them, they play the expansion and perhaps find their character with some items and not others.

Wouldn't the majority of people think that was a bug?



To get around it they really needed to do a Baldur's Gate II type start: You are imprisoned or something... stripped of all equipment. That way there is a logical reason.



As it stands right now it simply makes no sense.

If it was that easy for modders to fix, why couldn't Bioware?

[Satanic Hamster]

Hey, people.



Bioware wasn't competent enough to figure out how to support the DLC in Origins.



But this guy was:

http://social.biowar...m/project/2310/

[Petsura]

It's not a rant if it's true and I agree in all points made.



There is absolutely no excuse to disregard previous DLCs for Origins in Awakening.

[TheRealIncarnal]

I can say that there's absolutely no NEED for any of the past DLC in Awakening. I can't imagine any situation where you would ever use any of it.

[MacrossMan]

Yeah Bioware did screw up this time. In a really big way. I never went to these forums until Bioware released DA:O, heck DA:O was the first Bioware game that I played, and I'm disappointed that they released an unfinished game (in Awakening) that was executed poorly. I didn't buy Awakening for this reason and I don't intend to until they fix the dex glitch and the DLC importing issues.

You can spare me the "we wanted to focus on the core content more". We spent good money supporting Bioware with SP, WK, and RTO. I'm not going to buy another piece of Bioware content until they get there head on straight.

For anyone that continues to purchase content from Bioware, they are just encouraging their behavior to releasing incomplete content.

Modifié par MacrossMan, 17 mars 2010 - 02:33 .

[franco8706]

The DLC items were meant to be some of the best equipment in Origins. Awakening has higher level equipment, essentially making the DLC equipment weak and easily replaced. Let's just stop complaining that we can't use Starfang or whatever else and enjoy Awakening.

[DanaScu]

TheRealIncarnal wrote...

I can say that there's absolutely no NEED for any of the past DLC in Awakening. I can't imagine any situation where you would ever use any of it.

My pcs usually ended up with something from the dlc at the end of the game. I checked a few when I decided to import one of my non-US pcs. Yep. Standing there in the "choose your character" start screen in my underwear, without weapons.

Going to be rather chilly for my Warden for a while. Can't wait to fight the darkspawn weaponless and wearing only underwear. Maybe a new possibility for a *real* hardcore rp....

Really, in the very beginning, the items you had, no matter how crappy they might be compared to what you will eventually get in DAO:A, will be super uber leet gear compared to your pc's underwear and total lack of weapons.

Modifié par DanaScu, 17 mars 2010 - 03:00 .

[Petsura]

TheRealIncarnal wrote...

I can say that there's absolutely no NEED for any of the past DLC in Awakening. I can't imagine any situation where you would ever use any of it.

That's not for you to decide.

Stop being selfish.

[MacrossMan]

This isn't about higher tier equipment being available. It's about paying money for content that doesn't work with future content. How can you say that starting a game naked is a good experience for any player? It isn't.

[locust45]

TheRealIncarnal wrote...

I can say that there's absolutely
no NEED for any of the past DLC in Awakening. I can't imagine any
situation where you would ever use any of it.

How about the first parts of the game, when your character is imported without his armor and sword and gets into a fight? I certainly needed my gear then. What about the blood powers that aren't gear related? Even if the gear goes obsolete, the point is that it's paid for, and you should voluntarily want to replace it. Not forced.

Modifié par locust45, 17 mars 2010 - 02:48 .

[lynxxyarly]

bassmunkee wrote...

The DLC was for the Origins game, not this one.
Sorry but I fail to see what the problem is.

Apparently you didn't read my post where I talked about the coding being half-done and half broken for the skills/spells you acquire from Warden' Keep.

That is my *biggest* issue. The fact that they left the coding still there and didn't even try and fix it is a problem. They didn't even bother to code it out, they just decided to leave it as broken string tables and show up errored out on your spells page.

If you're not going to even read the posts, please keep your opinion out of it. It's just an insult that you would post about something you obviously didn't care enough to read about.

[xODD7BALLx]

Louis deGuerre wrote...

/signed

If we pay for DLC stuff, we want to be able to use it in the expansions as well.

Blame Canada !

this could have all been avoided if the word expansion was never used and they just sold it as it is, a game within the Dragon Age franchise, an episode or whatever you want to call it.

[lynxxyarly]

I installed the 'dlc to work with awakening' mod and it has so far gotten everything I've wanted to work.



It's amazing what a mod can do that the game developers couldn't be bothered with to work. Just simply amazing.



Unfortunately console users are still going to be hosed.