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[The Spamming Troll]

anyone know anything about this gun??? i use the SMG alot and i searched around and cant find any info on this weapon. i hope its like the tempest but more accurate with less damage. what aother oprtions would an SMG have? if you know anything about this weapon, fill me in.

[SmilingMirror]

as of yet, nobody knows. Supposedly coming out in the next DLC with Kasumi.

[spacehamsterZH]

FWIW, I hope it's more like the Shuriken... I much prefer the short bursts to continuous fire.

[cruc1al]

You can still fire short bursts with Tempest.

[spacehamsterZH]

cruc1al wrote...

You can still fire short bursts with Tempest.

Sure, but they're harder to control and there's nothing about it that really makes up for that problem for me. With the Revenant you get such insane firepower that it balances out the difficult handling, but with SMGs, I switched back to the Shuriken pretty soon.

[themastakillah]

dunno but i dont like smg's.. i want a heavy pistol or two lol.. fo real.

[Kronner]

I hope it has decent range, better than Tempest and Shuriken.

[spacehamsterZH]

themastakillah wrote...

dunno but i dont like smg's.. i want a heavy pistol or two lol.. fo real.

A heavy pistol with less damage, but more ammo would be nice as a backup weapon.

[Athenau]

Sure, but they're harder to control and there's nothing about it that really makes up for that problem for me. With the Revenant you get such insane firepower that it balances out the difficult handling, but with SMGs, I switched back to the Shuriken pretty soon.

The Tempest is impossible to control in full auto. The Revenant has significant muzzle climb, but it's always upwards so its easy to compensate with the mouse. The Tempest, on the other hand, just wanders in all directions so trying to control it just makes things worse as you overcompensate one way or the other.

[SmilingMirror]

Tempest isn't hard to control for me at all, and i'm on xbox. I find it easier than the assault rifles. Maybe because I play a lot of shooters?

Modifié par SmilingMirror, 17 mars 2010 - 06:51 .

[Athenau]

I have tons of shooter experience.

You cannot compensate for the Tempest's random reticule movement without bursting.

[SmilingMirror]

Athenau wrote...

I have tons of shooter experience.
You cannot compensate for the Tempest's random reticule movement without bursting.

My mistake then.
but lets face it; isn't burst fire the way your supposed to shoot at extreme distances anyhow?
I have to wait for the recticle to go down all the way before i fire to get a good hit no matter the gun.

Either way its still a gun i like to get up all close with.

Modifié par SmilingMirror, 17 mars 2010 - 06:56 .

[Athenau]

I was just commenting on why the Tempest can be a difficult to handle weapon. You can burst fire it just fine, but full auto is a different issue. That's why some people prefer the Shuriken despite its initial poorer accuracy.  And when you're in close range (but not point blank) you can still spray--that's when the weird random recoil becomes irritating.

That said, it's still an excellent weapon.

Modifié par Athenau, 17 mars 2010 - 07:05 .

[Gumbeaux Jr]

I just hope it has a great feel, sound, and cool style because my Infiltrator is pretty powerful by now. I just want to play around with a new gun... I really like the Tempest, so this Locust is going to have to be pretty great to be added to my arsenal...

[Hutchinson000]

I'm in love with the Tempest SMG. I've always been a fan of shooters, and machine pistols, like the Shuriken, have never held much appeal for me.



There are very few circumstances when you should go full auto. You should always control your rate of fire, period. I saw a youtube video of purgatory prison ship and the Soldier was spending a clip on every.single.target. Embarrassing.



As an infiltrator, the Tempest provides me with the ability to quickly tear down shields and barriers, exposing them for my sniper rifle. The Shuriken is a poor substitute in this regard.



I am looking forward to the Locust. I like the idea of having weapon options, and SMGs were lacking in the initial release. I also like how the Locust has a distinctly P90 feel, and I hope the rate of fire is similar to the P90.

[vadrillan]

I think the main difference with the Locust will prob be it's dmg multiplier vs. defences, e.g. 1.25 vs. armour or something.

[Jarkill]

I believe from looking at the gameplay videos the locust fires single, accurate shots.



Could be wrong though.

[Occams Razor 17]

Jarkill wrote...
I believe from looking at the gameplay videos the locust fires single, accurate shots.
Could be wrong though.

It wouldn't be a submachine gun then.

[EthrenDiak]

 Honestly, I can understand why the Tempest's recoil is as it is. You're holding it in a 1-handed grip, where as the Revenant uses a 2-handed grip (which is a much more stable grip.) and you have a stock to brace against.

The Locust, from what I've seen, seems to be a higher caliber, lower RoF version of the Tempest. If that's the case, I'm in love already.  

[Urazz]

EthrenDiak wrote...

 Honestly, I can understand why the Tempest's recoil is as it is. You're holding it in a 1-handed grip, where as the Revenant uses a 2-handed grip (which is a much more stable grip.) and you have a stock to brace against.

The Locust, from what I've seen, seems to be a higher caliber, lower RoF version of the Tempest. If that's the case, I'm in love already.  

It also wouldn't suprise me if it's the most effective SMG against armor.  It wouldn't beat a gun more designed against armor like pistols or assault rifles but it would probably be quite decent.

[casedawgz]

You can see it at the end of the Kasumi trailer. It appears to be silenced.

[Jarkill]

Occams Razor 17 wrote...

Jarkill wrote...
I believe from looking at the gameplay videos the locust fires single, accurate shots.
Could be wrong though.

It wouldn't be a submachine gun then.

Uh, why would that stop it from being a submachine gun?

AH

I didn't mean single as in bolt action or anything like that, I meant as in if you pressed fire once, only a single shot would come out. It's automatic, but with a lower RoF than the other two SMGs. Also more accurate and deals more damage per shot, quite possibly with a 1.25 modifier against armour and shields instead of a 1.5 multiplier agaisnt shields.

[Occams Razor 17]

Jarkill wrote...

Occams Razor 17 wrote...

Jarkill wrote...
I believe from looking at the gameplay videos the locust fires single, accurate shots.
Could be wrong though.

It wouldn't be a submachine gun then.

Uh, why would that stop it from being a submachine gun?

AH

I didn't mean single as in bolt action or anything like that, I meant as in if you pressed fire once, only a single shot would come out. 

 

That's the definition of semiautomatic.  

Jarkill wrote...
It's automatic, but with a lower RoF than the other two SMGs. Also more accurate and deals more damage per shot, quite possibly with a 1.25 modifier against armour and shields instead of a 1.5 multiplier agaisnt shields.

I agree that this part is likely, though, based on the few seconds released of the Locus in use during the trailer.

[Jarkill]

I don't think I'm making it clear enough.



You know how if you hold the fire button on the tempest it fires automatic, but only a five round burst if you shoot once?



Same as that, it's just that the RoF is so low that you only fire a single shot if you press it once.



Let me put it this way, actually.



Think of having the rate of fire type of a tempest (NOT semiautomatic, if you hold it down it will fire constantly).



Now make it that when you press fire once it only fires a single shot instead of five, is more accurate, does more damage, and shoots slower. Give it a 1.25 bonus around the board and thats pretty much what I see the locust as being.

[OniGanon]

Occams Razor 17 wrote...
That's the definition of semiautomatic. 

Afaik semi-auto means it will fire once and only once no matter how long you hold the trigger, and that it will fire again if you release and squeeze the trigger again without any other action needed.

Lack of 3 or 5 round burst doesn't mean it's no longer fully automatic, or that it's no longer a submachine gun.