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[divinedork]

So, I  haven't tried this myself as I've only got to play the opening sequence, but could it be possible to keep Mhairi in your party if you decide to let Anders go?? I mean, you get to level her up at the start, which is something that you never got to even with Jory and Daveth in DA:O and you also lose -5 approval with her if you basically tell her to 'suck it up recruit' (I can't remember the exact phrase) and -10 if you kill the guy in the keep who has been poisoned.

My question is, why would Bioware let you level a character and let decisions affect their approval rating, only to kill them off within the first 45 minutes?? I think there is a way to keep her.

[Evolution33]

With the New Game+ in Mass Effect you can level Jenkins up to level 60.

[AuraofMana]

To fool you into thinking she is a permanent character, and then killing her for shock. Also it indicates that the Joining will kill, either as a reminder or a first time thing for people who bought both games and decided to do the expansion pack with a new character without ever having played the original game.

[PSRdirector]

this bites, she was more interesting to me then the others. why not kill ogrhain that would have been a shock

[lazuli]

Not to be a wet blanket, but I breathed a sigh of relief when she... passed on.   As a (shield) Warrior myself, I didn't really need her + Oghren + Justice.  At least Anders didn't croak.  That would have left me quite Mageless until I made my way through the Taming of the Shrew.

[Prismo]

I thought it was pretty obvious she was a red shirt from the start as her portrait has the default black background and npc party members never use that background.

[Tokion]

My starting level from Origin import was level 23. I spent 20 mins leveling her up and setting up her AI just to see her die in the first hour. >:[

Modifié par Tokion, 30 mars 2010 - 03:28 .

[Maria Caliban]

PSRdirector wrote...

this bites, she was more interesting to me then the others. why not kill ogrhain that would have been a shock

I can't help but agree.

[Gaharia]

PSRdirector wrote...

this bites, she was more interesting to me then the others. why not kill ogrhain that would have been a shock

Yeah, and have half of the community(before the bazaar) rage at them and refusing to buy any more BioWare games... until they come out. A bit like the L4D2 boycott. Ignorant fools, all of them.

[Smiffy111]

Hmmm... she was alright, no great loss... now to find Morrigan!

[Aviena]

Chazzwazza wrote...

I thought it was pretty obvious she was a red shirt from the start as her portrait has the default black background and npc party members never use that background.

Yes. "Obvious".

[Crixt]

AuraofMana wrote...

To fool you into thinking she is a permanent character, and then killing her for shock. Also it indicates that the Joining will kill, either as a reminder or a first time thing for people who bought both games and decided to do the expansion pack with a new character without ever having played the original game.

This, exactly.

Interestingly enough, I went to bed the night after getting it, having played just up to getting Oghren in my party.  My thoughts were "man, I really like Ogreh and Anders, but that other chick is really really dull and boring.  Horrible character so far.  When It came to be joining time, I saw it coming, and was relieved when it happened.

[jsachun]

So I suppose, it would makes sense for Bioware to kill every 9 out of 10 PC characters created at the joining, just to remind you that the joining maybe lethal & not every one survives.

[Maria Caliban]

jsachun wrote...

So I suppose, it would makes sense for Bioware to kill every 9 out of 10 PC characters created at the joining, just to remind you that the joining maybe lethal & not every one survives.

I approve this idea.

[Prismo]

Aviena wrote...

Chazzwazza wrote...

I thought it was pretty obvious she was a red shirt from the start as her portrait has the default black background and npc party members never use that background.

Yes. "Obvious".

Fair enough, obvious clearly wasn't the right word to use, but I can't be the only person that noticed that anytime you have an npc in your party who is 'temporary' they use the black background instead of one of the ones with perdy colours.

Modifié par Chazzwazza, 31 mars 2010 - 09:51 .

[Igor_Sl_V]

It would be better to kill Anders or Oghren during the ritual.

I think Sigrun is more interesting personage than Oghren.

The same I want to say about Velanna and Anders.

Maybe this is my weakness, I prefer girls companion.

Only exeption is Wynne. She is a terrible person, any nightmare is better...

But it is good that all characters are so different.

I also regret about Mhairi.

PS.

You could tell what Oghren would say on any question without the

bother of asking him.

[Pubknight]

jsachun wrote...

So I suppose, it would makes sense for Bioware to kill every 9 out of 10 PC characters created at the joining, just to remind you that the joining maybe lethal & not every one survives.

Oddly enough, that was how I rationalized stopping and deleting the characters I created just to see each origin story.
I played through a mage, dwarf noble warrior, human noble rogue to the end, but created a dalish elf, a city elf, and a dwarf commoner that I ran to the joining, then stopped and deleted the characters.
Decided they died during the joining.
It was an opportunistic role playing loophole I thought.

[darkshadow136]

Yeah I know of all to live or bring back to the game Oghren. I hated him in DAO. It was really pathetic since Bioware Hyped Mhari as a new team mate a month before the release of the expansion, only to kill her during the joining. To answer your question I tried all sorts of variations including letting Anders go, and she still dies. So there is no way to keep her alive.

[SollusAzelas]

Chazzwazza wrote...

Fair enough, obvious clearly wasn't the right word to use, but I can't be the only person that noticed that anytime you have an npc in your party who is 'temporary' they use the black background instead of one of the ones with perdy colours. 

I don't know what console you use, but on a PC, Daveth and Jory had yellow backgrounds (I think yellow...), not black. And Gorim had a vanilla-like color. Is it different for you? 

[RushLimbob]

SollusAzelas wrote...

Chazzwazza wrote...

Fair enough, obvious clearly wasn't the right word to use, but I can't be the only person that noticed that anytime you have an npc in your party who is 'temporary' they use the black background instead of one of the ones with perdy colours. 

I don't know what console you use, but on a PC, Daveth and Jory had yellow backgrounds (I think yellow...), not black. And Gorim had a vanilla-like color. Is it different for you? 

In all fairness Gorim doesn't die, and we all knew one of them was going to die, my money was on the extra warrior who wanted to join the order so bad.

Also to those saying kill off Oghren can sod off.  He is one of the best characters you get.

[amd2112]

all the fanboys need to rinse the sand out of your vaginas. she died. ****e happens. do you really think keeping another boring warrior in the group would have made the game better or saved it from all the bugs and glitches? Origins had way too many warriors, im glad she's gone.

[SollusAzelas]

RushLimbob wrote...

SollusAzelas wrote...

Chazzwazza wrote...

Fair enough, obvious clearly wasn't the right word to use, but I can't be the only person that noticed that anytime you have an npc in your party who is 'temporary' they use the black background instead of one of the ones with perdy colours. 

I don't know what console you use, but on a PC, Daveth and Jory had yellow backgrounds (I think yellow...), not black. And Gorim had a vanilla-like color. Is it different for you? 

In all fairness Gorim doesn't die, and we all knew one of them was going to die, my money was on the extra warrior who wanted to join the order so bad.

Also to those saying kill off Oghren can sod off.  He is one of the best characters you get.

True, but missing my point. Chazz said all temporary companions have black backgrounds, and I was just listing those I knew to have non-black backgrounds.

[Lowenhart]

Well, in a way i am happy for her, it stink to be a warden you get all the downside and nothing really good comes of it, you not alot better than anyone else who isnt a warden, you just sick with taint that eventually kill you, and supposed to mindlessly slay darkspawn until that day, as much as promotion for games does it job, it doesnt change the fact being wardens a bittersweet taste, and not really much future prospects in it for any happy endings.

Dont get me wrong i like DAO as a game and its entertaining to play, but being warden doesnt really have future or glory ahead of you, unless you find dying in some deep roads ditch after being overrun by darkspawns was the dreams for how youd go.

Modifié par Lowenhart, 07 avril 2010 - 08:32 .

[Anakha6]

Lowenhart wrote...

Well, in a way i am happy for her, it stink to be a warden you get all the downside and nothing really good comes of it, you not alot better than anyone else who isnt a warden, you just sick with taint that eventually kill you, and supposed to mindlessly slay darkspawn until that day, as much as promotion for games does it job, it doesnt change the fact being wardens a bittersweet taste, and not really much future prospects in it for any happy endings.

Dont get me wrong i like DAO as a game and its entertaining to play, but being warden doesnt really have future or glory ahead of you, unless you find dying in some deep roads ditch after being overrun by darkspawns was the dreams for how youd go.

TBH i'd rather go out in a blaze of fire and glory than dying old in a bed. So yeah, fighting an endless ammount of evil monsters that I can kill without regret until I'm overcome is a rather appealing death to me.

[Lowenhart]

Just Saying in dragon age you are more or less just a by passing footnote except if you make some few small, twist here and there you might become a bit more someone, hell Ferelden dident even bother placing up a statue for you, you get to be some second rate celebration to the coronation. Just saying i suppose if you compare to being hero in other fantasy games Warden feels a bit at the bottom.

Less like you say you like to go out fighting thou there likely isnt much glory in it in deep roads, since only ones who might notice be legion of the dead, and they dont return to civilization to tell, so historians just gonna write whatever they want about it.

EDIT: P.S sorry for side tracking it wont happen again.

Modifié par Lowenhart, 07 avril 2010 - 07:37 .