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We want justice for Mhairi! (And our money's worth)


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Kohaku

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I have no idea why but before I read here she died something didn't click. I had a feeling she wasn't going to last. I would have loved to have a tank though. Ah well. I just have to make it to Justice.

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Default137 wrote...

All they said was that she would be a companion in the game, and she was, you assumed that she would last you the entire game, and thats entirely your fault, not Biowares.

How is believing what they led us to believe our fault?

xzxzxz701 wrote...

They never said she would survive the
joining, hell they never even said she would even be a companion, its
called the characters page, not the new companions for Awakeing
page.

You say that despite Origins' characters page listing
ONLY your permanent companions (sans Loghain and Shale), iirc...

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Just being curious, WHAT exactly is the deciding point of surviving the Joining? Mental fitness, physical prowess, or just plain "take a drink and hope the best"?

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AlkoTanko wrote...

Just being curious, WHAT exactly is the deciding point of surviving the Joining? Mental fitness, physical prowess, or just plain "take a drink and hope the best"?


I would like to say first that I made this thread in a fit of rage and I have since changed my outlook.

As to your origional question, it appears that alcoholics have a geater chance of surviving. Remember that one guy from the Anderfels who Allistair talked about? Drank everyone under tha table and just kept drinking.Then there's Oghren.... moving on.

But no really, it appears to be something more. The thing with the joining is that it attmepts to hit the person with enough darkspawn corruption that their bodies instantly develop an immunity to it rather than die. Everyone dies from prolonged exposure to the taint, but if hit with enough of it at one time they might instead become Grey Wardens.

Modifié par Venatio, 18 mars 2010 - 04:10 .


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zykinwulf

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dick move bioware dick move

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Volourn wrote...

LMAO BIO 1 Butthurt Fanboys 0

BIO hit a homerun with this. Absolutely beautiful. They did absolutely nothing wrong. And, the payback is $2500? LMAO A drop in the bucket, mes amis, a drop in the bucket.


Agreed except for one thing. Sorry I used to be a French tutor ^_^

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Let it go, OP.

Mhairi got offed. It happens. A lot more people got offed in the Joining, and Daveth's just one other example of that happening.

Boy, I really don't envy whichever Warden gets saddled with the duty of scouring out new recruits. Imagine it... So many people dying just like that...

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SnakeStrike8 wrote...

Let it go, OP.
Mhairi got offed. It happens. A lot more people got offed in the Joining, and Daveth's just one other example of that happening.
Boy, I really don't envy whichever Warden gets saddled with the duty of scouring out new recruits. Imagine it... So many people dying just like that...


I did let it go, or did you not read my edited origional post? This thread is 2 days old, I hadnt expected it to surface again.

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It's called a surprise and reminds you of how dangerous the Joining is. And they did it with a character you just met with this great of effect. I actually applaud them for this.



Besides, she would just be redundant with Justice.

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Good grief, she died. People die from the Joining its known. Its all random apparently as well, good people as well as bad. She's dead. Move on for pity's sake.

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EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Venatio wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

I wonder if people would be this up in arms about Bioware's decision to troll it's fan base if Mhairi had been a male character instead. Not saying that there aren't people out there who genuinely liked her character and all, but they seem to be out numbered by all the people complaining about losing their potential female tank.

Also $2,500 is kind of a drop in the bucket compared to the costs that were needed to create both the original game and expansion, so you might want to aim a bit higher with your final quota.

Still I do sincerely wish you luck in your endeavors - though I sincerely doubt anything will be done about it.



Its not just about losing her character, its that Bioware went back on their word when they promised her as a main character then threw her out right when we got in. We were promised six characters, and we as customers have the right to object.

You got six companions... Sadly Mhairi was the seventh...


I came in as a Human noble... the rogue stated that he was going to seek revenge so I had him ganked.  Was I to allow a sworn enemy into my inner circle?  With him ganked, Mhari was a cinch to get in as a warden no? 

I had to play for quite awhile with a party of two (I dislike Ogren... alot).   That sucked.  It definately colored any early adopter plans for round 3.  As for comunity content... this ain't NeverWinter.  The DAO toolset is a bad joke compared to the NWN Aurora toolset.  The community DLC is way less than was available to NWN the same time after its initial launch.  Personally, I think that this expansion did not expand much beside sales figures for EA.

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lol umm who cares about Mhairi get a life you can't even speak to the characters in this game what sorta attachment could you garnish....she was weak she died ohh well at urs everyone died cept for your PC it happens not easy espeically for humans and elves to idk drink archdemon blood darkspawn blood and freaking lyrium..and live honestly no one cares its a game...i was surprised when she died but to busy laughin at oghren to care...

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I'd like a DLC that fixes all the bugs in the game, and makes both games work they way theyre supposed to, after being out for months.



Also, was there some cutscene I missed where Mhari demonstrated any sort of personality or interesting character, that would make her at all worthy of being petitioned for? She pretty much screamed "redshirt" to me.

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B0sstherapy wrote...

lol umm who cares about Mhairi get a life you can't even speak to the characters in this game what sorta attachment could you garnish....she was weak she died ohh well at urs everyone died cept for your PC it happens not easy espeically for humans and elves to idk drink archdemon blood darkspawn blood and freaking lyrium..and live honestly no one cares its a game...i was surprised when she died but to busy laughin at oghren to care...


Wonderful, a man who can barely type in the english language insists on criticizing me for my lack of a social life? Would you like to comment on my pedigree next?

I already edited my OP, or did you not notice?

Modifié par Venatio, 19 mars 2010 - 06:32 .


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sylvanaerie wrote...

Good grief, she died. People die from the Joining its known. Its all random apparently as well, good people as well as bad. She's dead. Move on for pity's sake.

It can be somewhat annoying when the single character that looked interesting from the character trailers and more importently who isn't a bad attempt at comic relief is killed off immediatly(*); which then leaves you the two afformentioned annoying wastes of space.

It was certainly enough to make me stop playing the game until I can muster up the courage to face the really lame puns and butt-jokes Oghren will undoubtebly burp at me.

(*): personal opinion, your mileage may vary.

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I think the whole issue with Mhairi is that she is a cool looking, sword weilding, shield bashing babe and there isn't one in game, unless you make it. Face it, guys are a sucker for that!.

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The way I see it, if people weren't complaining about this, they would find something else to complain about! No matter what they did or didn't due, people still would complain is the bottom line!



Unfortunately all of this complaining is actually ruining it, why? Cause and Effect. Remember Little Red Ridding Hood and that big bad wolf. Well she cried wolf so much no one listened to her and all of her complaining accomplished nothing when she needed it most. Same thing here.. We have so many whinning and complaining that when something big comes along they will just take it with a grain if sand.



We are after all, our own worse enemies!

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Gunny5821 wrote...

Remember Little Red Ridding Hood and that big bad wolf. Well she cried wolf so much no one listened to her and all of her complaining accomplished nothing when she needed it most.
We are after all, our own worse enemies!


... Wait, thats not how the story went.

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Venatio wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

You are sure you aren't complaining just for complainings sake?


I'm just angry, and one angry person can do less than nothing.


They can walk away.

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Honestly, I'm sort of glad she died. When she said, "I've dreamt of this moment!" I knew she was toast. Only fools want to be Grey Wardens for the fame and power. Becoming a Grey Warden means sacrificing your life to a greater good while you're still living. It means horrible nightmares and madness and painful death. Mhairi was in it for the glory from the start, and that's why she died.

I think some people are just upset 'cause it means one less romance option. Nyaore, your post on the first page rather says it all.

Modifié par AndrastesGrace, 19 mars 2010 - 08:00 .