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[Reaverwind]

Chalmes wrote...

well look at it this way, bioware design team cares less of the players and what they want and as far as bioware goes they care less too, all they want is you to First fork out cash for the DLC"s then bring out an expansion that cost you $40.00 dollars on top of the DLC you paid for and only one dlc carries over and thats return to ostagar,(is what i hear and understanding) so now your out of the cost of the DLC's you paid for that IS NOT carried over and now no good and cant use with awakening, BAMM money lost-bioware gains then expansion, BAMM bioware wins again, BUT dont get me wrong i love the games just hate the company and they way they operate. Ill keep playing there games just cause im a gamer but ill would never refer bioware to anyone, my friends or famliy.

Well, am I ever glad I didn't fork out the $40. What was that saying about money and fools?

[Phonantiphon]

Having been playing the game as the "new" Big Cheese - it actually makes loads of sense. I think you lot are just getting all worked up over nothing.

If you chose the Ultimate Sacrifice, play with the new character, with new stuff - that maintains continuity. If you didn't choose Ultimate Sacrifice - then you can either play with the original character or as I did start a new one assuming the old one is sh*gging Morrigna or something.

If you don't care and/or just wanna keep your old character then do that, regardless of how the original plot ended.

It fits together just fine.

This is increasingly becoming a non-thread full of a lot of the same puffing and blowing and mud-slinging as about a hundred other threads on this forum.

There are plenty of other things to complain about should you wish, but complaining story arcs being "wrong" when you blatantly lack the imagination to follow through with the ample choices that you are given and insist on being spoon-fed because you can't be bother/are unable to thik for yourselves is ludicrous.

Complain about the bugs if you want, but this thread is franky pointless.

So there :OP

[Draguling]

Would it be possible to just import the choices of the dead warden, and start out as an orlesian?

[VampireCommando]

Stop Trolling, or if your that upset why don't YOU go download a toolset and make your own origins if you can do better- which i highly doubt- so dont b!tch about something unless you yourself can do something alot better.

[Original182]

Clearly Alistair is the better ruler all this time, as it makes sense from his bloodline point of you, canon point of view, and even the developers point of  view. All you Anora lovers deserve the shaft.

Nah just kidding. I too believe that if for some bizzare reason you chose Anora over Alistair, it's your choice and it should be reflected in the expansion. I guess I understand that by attempting to create many possibilities to the storyline due to choices you made in the original game, it may result in too much work for the developers. But here we see that it is what the gamers want.

Hopefully Bioware is willing to sacrifice development hours to implement something like this in future games.

Modifié par Original182, 26 mars 2010 - 11:03 .

[Kenrae]

VampireCommando wrote...

Stop Trolling, or if your that upset why don't YOU go download a toolset and make your own origins if you can do better- which i highly doubt- so dont b!tch about something unless you yourself can do something alot better.

Uh? It's the other way around. If I can do it better myself, why would I pay for it to begin with? 

[Gaddmeister]

Kenrae wrote...

VampireCommando wrote...

Stop Trolling, or if your that upset why don't YOU go download a toolset and make your own origins if you can do better- which i highly doubt- so dont b!tch about something unless you yourself can do something alot better.

Uh? It's the other way around. If I can do it better myself, why would I pay for it to begin with? 

Ha ha, yeah I never understood that particular argument.

[Feraele]

Draguling wrote...

Would it be possible to just import the choices of the dead warden, and start out as an orlesian?

Nope not possible.    You can revive your dead warden by porting him or her over,  but if you leave your warden dead, no information carries forward to colour the world of the Orlesian warden.  

   You get a default story start with the Orlesian, and they have no clue about the heroic sacrifice..whatsoever.

[Feraele]

Original182 wrote...

Clearly Alistair is the better ruler all this time, as it makes sense from his bloodline point of you, canon point of view, and even the developers point of  view. All you Anora lovers deserve the shaft.

Nah just kidding. I too believe that if for some bizzare reason you chose Anora over Alistair, it's your choice and it should be reflected in the expansion. I guess I understand that by attempting to create many possibilities to the storyline due to choices you made in the original game, it may result in too much work for the developers. But here we see that it is what the gamers want.

Hopefully Bioware is willing to sacrifice development hours to implement something like this in future games.

Unfortunately..that all depends on what budget Bioware has been allotted to produce and develop  "X" dlc, expansion, or sequel.    They pretty much have to stay within those limits.    What we get coming out the other side..well,  there's debate on that already.   hehe

[ModerateOsprey]

bassmunkee wrote...

Having been playing the game as the "new" Big Cheese - it actually makes loads of sense. I think you lot are just getting all worked up over nothing.
If you chose the Ultimate Sacrifice, play with the new character, with new stuff - that maintains continuity. If you didn't choose Ultimate Sacrifice - then you can either play with the original character or as I did start a new one assuming the old one is sh*gging Morrigna or something.
If you don't care and/or just wanna keep your old character then do that, regardless of how the original plot ended.
It fits together just fine.
This is increasingly becoming a non-thread full of a lot of the same puffing and blowing and mud-slinging as about a hundred other threads on this forum.
There are plenty of other things to complain about should you wish, but complaining story arcs being "wrong" when you blatantly lack the imagination to follow through with the ample choices that you are given and insist on being spoon-fed because you can't be bother/are unable to thik for yourselves is ludicrous.
Complain about the bugs if you want, but this thread is franky pointless.
So there :OP

I was pretty much with you until this. It is a big deal, surely? Ending a large game like DAO by sacrificing yourself? Doesn't get much more of a big deal than that for a story?

It is obvious that many players who did the US are a bit gobsmacked that this is simply erased as a story element. Seems to me they are happy to start a new character. Further, it all seems that they want to start a new character. The did have an expectation to have something recognise this in the expansion, even if only in a small way. Most of the suggestions of how it could have been handled are actually pretty reasonable from a technical standpoint as well.

OP, yes, change the topic subject as Chris suggested. Would also be good if it could be moved to spoilers forum.

Modifié par ModerateOsprey, 26 mars 2010 - 04:01 .

[Jagrevi]

bassmunkee wrote...
If you chose the Ultimate Sacrifice, play with the new character, with new stuff - that maintains continuity.

The issue in question is that it doesn't maintain continuity for alot of people.

If it did, I highly doubt the OP would have created the thread in the first place - none-the-less give it the (*cough* ahem) thread title that they did.

Modifié par Jagrevi, 27 mars 2010 - 11:03 .

[JP Sonic]

I was pretty disappointed as well, though I do not fully agree. For my playthrough, I imported my dead warden and found solace in the thought that maybe you don't die instantly with the archdemon in you. My funeral was like the ending and awakening was the middle-man. Like a star wars scenario. My girlfriend is playing now and her choices seemed to influence it a bit. Example: A few text choices with Oghren"nice to see you again", and Alistair greeting her with"Hello dear wife". That being said, I do hope there is another expansion, and that it's better. Awakening was...ok... but not NEARLY as legendary as the original! I can only pray that I see Morrigan again in the future! It just wasn't the same without the old party and romances. Better luck next time Bioware;we still love you. We still need to kill the old gods to eliminate the blight right!?--TO ORLAIS....or ANTIVA!!

[Stonetwister]

It is a bit strange that they chose to disconnect this expansion from the original story as much as they did, but I am going in knowing that already, which makes it easier. I am making a new warden, even though my original warden didn't die at the end (Morrigan bow chika bow wow yeah).

While it is a little disappointing that they chose to go this route, I am surprised at the amount of wild eyed frothing at the mouth rants that are all over the forums about it. Seriously guys, settle down. I think the real continuation will come with Dragon Age 2. If it doesn't, then I will get some good froth going and we can all march up to Bioware's headquarters with pitchforks.

[Jagrevi]

JP Sonic wrote...

I was pretty disappointed as well, though I do not fully agree

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Better luck next time Bioware;we still love you. We still need to kill the old gods to eliminate the blight right!?--TO ORLAIS....or ANTIVA!!

I would hope Orlais over Antiva, personally.