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"Liara's DLC Dialogue Spoilers"

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 12:44

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The Shadow Broker informations is like a weapon too dangerous to be handed to any of those sides .
But when it comes to this i can't trust Liara with it , It will be unethical to hand such power to Liara .

It is. We'll probably have to kill Liara at some point of ME3 if that's the case. Perhaps she'll betray us halfway through.

*ducks from the incoming hate replies*


The Shadow Broker used to be a neutral figure, at least in ME1.  He still is, insofar as he's viewed from a perspective other than Shepard's.  We don't even know if he knows why the Collectors wanted Shepard's body.  Liara wouldn't have to be evil as the new Shadow Broker, but the position definitely has corruptive influences.

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 12:45

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Pantaloons were epic. Need MOAR Pantaloons!


All Bioware games require at least one set of pantaloons/pantalettes that are golden/silver/bronze, and it is a sign of the end times that they do not.  The lack of these essential gameplay and story elements is disgraceful and proves that Bioware do not fulfill their customers' pants needs.

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 12:46

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Could be good if it's true. I'd give it a shot.


We at least know a big part of it and it doesn't worry me if it was true or false because I'm absolutely sure this is the way its going to play .
what worries me is " what are your choices " ?


I'd be done with Bioware if this content was actually implemented, not that the company should care about one guy disapproving of their work.  I couldn't stand DA:O.  Bioware mutilated three characters to keep them out of ME2.  That would be the last straw.


I see your point , this game was about making choices, YOUR choices and now they're forcing us into a one way street . Whatever we said and we discussed before didn't matter to them they're planing this whether we like it or not .

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 12:48

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so, after all that there still is ZERO ACKNOWLEDGMENT of their past relationship.....I had planned to make a run in which my shepard remained faithful even I always thought Liara did not deserve it. But now Liara can just go **** herself...she turns Shep down twice showing where her priorities really lay

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 12:50

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yorkj86 wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Pryce86
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The Shadow Broker informations is like a weapon too
dangerous to be handed to any of those sides .
But when it comes to
this i can't trust Liara with it , It will be unethical to hand such
power to Liara .

It is. We'll probably have to kill Liara at
some point of ME3 if that's the case. Perhaps she'll betray us halfway
through.

*ducks from the incoming hate replies*


The
Shadow Broker used to be a neutral figure, at least in ME1.  He still
is, insofar as he's viewed from a perspective other than Shepard's.  We
don't even know if he knows why the Collectors wanted Shepard's body. 
Liara wouldn't have to be evil as the new Shadow Broker, but the
position definitely has corruptive influences.


She is already corrupted AND WE CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT , she wanted your help to get an information
first , then your help to hunt of the Shadow Broker Agents and after she killed him she is planing to kill more of his agents ?
What the hell is wrong with BioWare !!!

Modifié par Pryce86, 18 mars 2010 - 12:52 .

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 12:52

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so, after all that there still is ZERO ACKNOWLEDGMENT of their past relationship.....I had planned to make a run in which my shepard remained faithful even I always thought Liara did not deserve it. But now Liara can just go **** herself...she turns Shep down twice showing where her priorities really lay


It's not Liara's fault.  It's meta-character-handling by Bioware.  The blame should be placed elsewhere.

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 12:53

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so, after all that there still is ZERO ACKNOWLEDGMENT of their past relationship.....I had planned to make a run in which my shepard remained faithful even I always thought Liara did not deserve it. But now Liara can just go **** herself...she turns Shep down twice showing where her priorities really lay


No guys , for real .... We need someone to blame for this !

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 12:55

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Pryce86 wrote...

She is already corrupted AND WE CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT , she wanted your help to get an information
first , then your help to hunt of the Shadow Broker Agents and after she killed him and killed The Shadow Broker she is planing to kill more of his agents and take his place ?
What the hell is wrong with BioWare !!!

Even as a simple information broker she's already starting to sound a lot like she's constipated her mother, who suffered from impacted bowels the effects of indoctrination.

Maybe Liara is also being indoctrinated by a Reaper? Then we'd be trying to save her instead of kill her in the next game.

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 12:59

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Ecael wrote...

Pryce86 wrote...

She is already corrupted AND WE CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT , she wanted your help to get an information
first , then your help to hunt of the Shadow Broker Agents and after she killed him and killed The Shadow Broker she is planing to kill more of his agents and take his place ?
What the hell is wrong with BioWare !!!

Even as a simple information broker she's already starting to sound a lot like she's constipated her mother, who suffered from impacted bowels the effects of indoctrination.

Maybe Liara is also being indoctrinated by a Reaper? Then we'd be trying to save her instead of kill her in the next game.


Or perhaps we're getting indoctrinated by Casey Hudson and BioWare :o

Seriously guys ,This is messed up !

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 01:02

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Ecael wrote...

Pryce86 wrote...

She is already corrupted AND WE CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT , she wanted your help to get an information
first , then your help to hunt of the Shadow Broker Agents and after she killed him and killed The Shadow Broker she is planing to kill more of his agents and take his place ?
What the hell is wrong with BioWare !!!

Even as a simple information broker she's already starting to sound a lot like she's constipated her mother, who suffered from impacted bowels the effects of indoctrination.

Maybe Liara is also being indoctrinated by a Reaper? Then we'd be trying to save her instead of kill her in the next game.


I just thought that she was trying to sound toughh and menacing, as she must have been terrified of what her mother had become on Noveria.  It was probably the only way she knew how to sound menacing.  I can only imagine how much it must have torn her apart inside to have to quote her mother, though, after seeing what had happened to ehr.

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 01:04

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Maybe they're being sneaky and making it that you should NOT help Liara do those missions? Maybe if you don't help her then her assistant takes her prisoner and you have to rescue her, causing her to realise she's in over her head and obsessed. It would be a good way to reward those who reject the mission based on their character's decision, rather like how if you reject many of the missions in Ego Draconis you'll get another mission that is often better instead (for instance, there's a pig farmer who tries to get you to rescue his pigs from the army who have taken them to feed starving villagers in another town, if you refuse you can then tell on him to the army leader who then rewards you with more stuff for less work!).



I'm being hopeful there though, not because I particularly like Liara but because I liked how Ego Draconis implemented the quests like that and would like to see it in more games.

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 01:08

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yorkj86 wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Pryce86 wrote...

She is already corrupted AND WE CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT , she wanted your help to get an information
first , then your help to hunt of the Shadow Broker Agents and after she killed him and killed The Shadow Broker she is planing to kill more of his agents and take his place ?
What the hell is wrong with BioWare !!!

Even as a simple information broker she's already starting to sound a lot like she's constipated her mother, who suffered from impacted bowels the effects of indoctrination.

Maybe Liara is also being indoctrinated by a Reaper? Then we'd be trying to save her instead of kill her in the next game.


I just thought that she was trying to sound toughh and menacing, as she must have been terrified of what her mother had become on Noveria.  It was probably the only way she knew how to sound menacing.  I can only imagine how much it must have torn her apart inside to have to quote her mother, though, after seeing what had happened to ehr.


I see your point. She's been through a lot , first getting out from a digsite bearly alive to stop a rouge spectre and his army of synthetics then her mother death and then Shepard death , maybe she didn't have time to process all this maybe she couldn't , a few people would go through this and come out sane .

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 01:10

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Ecael wrote...

Pryce86 wrote...

She is already corrupted AND WE CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT , she wanted your help to get an information
first , then your help to hunt of the Shadow Broker Agents and after she killed him and killed The Shadow Broker she is planing to kill more of his agents and take his place ?
What the hell is wrong with BioWare !!!

Even as a simple information broker she's already starting to sound a lot like she's constipated her mother, who suffered from impacted bowels the effects of indoctrination.

Maybe Liara is also being indoctrinated by a Reaper? Then we'd be trying to save her instead of kill her in the next game.


I just assumed that she's had a tenuous grip on her sanity at best ever since she got trapped in Prothean ruins for however many weeks I was off chasing Saren, then had her life's work stolen from her once she finally got freed.  Without Shepard around to keep her in line, she went full-on nutters.

Of course, that really only works if you enjoy torturing Liara like I do.

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 01:12

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Maybe they're being sneaky and making it that you should NOT help Liara do those missions? Maybe if you don't help her then her assistant takes her prisoner and you have to rescue her, causing her to realise she's in over her head and obsessed. It would be a good way to reward those who reject the mission based on their character's decision, rather like how if you reject many of the missions in Ego Draconis you'll get another mission that is often better instead (for instance, there's a pig farmer who tries to get you to rescue his pigs from the army who have taken them to feed starving villagers in another town, if you refuse you can then tell on him to the army leader who then rewards you with more stuff for less work!).

I'm being hopeful there though, not because I particularly like Liara but because I liked how Ego Draconis implemented the quests like that and would like to see it in more games.


If this is the case we would know for sure when the DLC is released but then it will be too late to change anything .
considering all speculation this could be the consequence Casey Hudson mention if you cheated on your LI in Mass Effect 1.

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 01:28

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Pryce86 wrote...

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Maybe they're being sneaky and making it that you should NOT help Liara do those missions? Maybe if you don't help her then her assistant takes her prisoner and you have to rescue her, causing her to realise she's in over her head and obsessed. It would be a good way to reward those who reject the mission based on their character's decision, rather like how if you reject many of the missions in Ego Draconis you'll get another mission that is often better instead (for instance, there's a pig farmer who tries to get you to rescue his pigs from the army who have taken them to feed starving villagers in another town, if you refuse you can then tell on him to the army leader who then rewards you with more stuff for less work!).

I'm being hopeful there though, not because I particularly like Liara but because I liked how Ego Draconis implemented the quests like that and would like to see it in more games.


If this is the case we would know for sure when the DLC is released but then it will be too late to change anything .
considering all speculation this could be the consequence Casey Hudson mention if you cheated on your LI in Mass Effect 1.


Yeah, if they are telling the truth then Liara becoming the SB would a great consequence for cheating ("This will teach you for spurning me for that ho Miranda Shepard!  Bwa hahahahaha!").  Though then this raises the question of what would happen if you cheated on Ash/Kai and what happens if you didn't romance them to begin with.

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 01:32

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At least I'm glad Liara's story isn't being shoved down the throats of those like me not really interested in it. So far, this is the closest thing we have to a character spin off. If it had been any other companion, on the other hand...

Modifié par Nissun, 18 mars 2010 - 01:33 .

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 01:41

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FlintlockJazz wrote...

Pryce86 wrote...

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Maybe they're being sneaky and making it that you should NOT help Liara do those missions? Maybe if you don't help her then her assistant takes her prisoner and you have to rescue her, causing her to realise she's in over her head and obsessed. It would be a good way to reward those who reject the mission based on their character's decision, rather like how if you reject many of the missions in Ego Draconis you'll get another mission that is often better instead (for instance, there's a pig farmer who tries to get you to rescue his pigs from the army who have taken them to feed starving villagers in another town, if you refuse you can then tell on him to the army leader who then rewards you with more stuff for less work!).

I'm being hopeful there though, not because I particularly like Liara but because I liked how Ego Draconis implemented the quests like that and would like to see it in more games.


If this is the case we would know for sure when the DLC is released but then it will be too late to change anything .
considering all speculation this could be the consequence Casey Hudson mention if you cheated on your LI in Mass Effect 1.


Yeah, if they are telling the truth then Liara becoming the SB would a great consequence for cheating ("This will teach you for spurning me for that ho Miranda Shepard!  Bwa hahahahaha!").  Though then this raises the question of what would happen if you cheated on Ash/Kai and what happens if you didn't romance them to begin with.


I think you're mocking me on this one , lol ...

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 01:49

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crimzontearz wrote...

so, after all that there still is ZERO ACKNOWLEDGMENT of their past relationship.....I had planned to make a run in which my shepard remained faithful even I always thought Liara did not deserve it. But now Liara can just go **** herself...she turns Shep down twice showing where her priorities really lay

Those files are placeholders, but if they are close to the truth then you have a good point there. All I can do is watch as the story unfolds. And I don't like what I see. In my point of view I have made a very important decision in ME1 that should have impact. A relation should be considered an important choice. At least in my book. But the actual impact is (again) non-existent. In the meantime she morphed to a character I can't even recognize. And there is no way to end that relation.

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 01:55

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Ecael wrote...


Pryce86 wrote...


She is already corrupted AND WE CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT , she wanted your help to get an information


first , then your help to hunt of the Shadow Broker Agents and after she killed him and killed The Shadow Broker she is planing to kill more of his agents and take his place ?


What the hell is wrong with BioWare !!!



Even as a simple information broker she's already starting to sound a lot like she's constipated her mother, who suffered from impacted bowels the effects of indoctrination.


Maybe Liara is also being indoctrinated by a Reaper? Then we'd be trying to save her instead of kill her in the next game.



bioware has the chance to rectify the poor handling of LIs...lord knows we have complained eloquently about it...now we will see if Bioware listened or not....but it appears they did not truly, of course I might be wrong since we have only a very few audio files

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 02:00

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Pryce86 wrote...

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Yeah, if they are telling the truth then Liara becoming the SB would a great consequence for cheating ("This will teach you for spurning me for that ho Miranda Shepard!  Bwa hahahahaha!").  Though then this raises the question of what would happen if you cheated on Ash/Kai and what happens if you didn't romance them to begin with.


I think you're mocking me on this one , lol ...


Not at all, I would love for a big consequence like this to happen as a result of choices in earlier games.  It would in essence be a good way of introducing a villain that truly does have a strong connection with the main character and especially the player, since it was the player's choices that resulted in it.

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 05:50

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If I need to go through another Revan/Bastilla style "I love you, don't make me kill you" dialog in the Liara DLC or ME3, I'm going to send a bag of dog poo to Bioware. Because, that's only fair since that's what they sent me!

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 05:58

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crimzontearz wrote...

Ecael wrote...


Pryce86 wrote...


She is already corrupted AND WE CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT , she wanted your help to get an information


first , then your help to hunt of the Shadow Broker Agents and after she killed him and killed The Shadow Broker she is planing to kill more of his agents and take his place ?


What the hell is wrong with BioWare !!!



Even as a simple information broker she's already starting to sound a lot like she's constipated her mother, who suffered from impacted bowels the effects of indoctrination.


Maybe Liara is also being indoctrinated by a Reaper? Then we'd be trying to save her instead of kill her in the next game.



bioware has the chance to rectify the poor handling of LIs...lord knows we have complained eloquently about it...now we will see if Bioware listened or not....but it appears they did not truly, of course I might be wrong since we have only a very few audio files

My post has a completely different meaning when the strikeouts aren't there.:lol:

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 06:06

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FlintlockJazz wrote...

Pryce86 wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...

Yeah, if they are telling the truth then Liara becoming the SB would a great consequence for cheating ("This will teach you for spurning me for that ho Miranda Shepard!  Bwa hahahahaha!").  Though then this raises the question of what would happen if you cheated on Ash/Kai and what happens if you didn't romance them to begin with.


I think you're mocking me on this one , lol ...


Not at all, I would love for a big consequence like this to happen as a result of choices in earlier games.  It would in essence be a good way of introducing a villain that truly does have a strong connection with the main character and especially the player, since it was the player's choices that resulted in it.


I see your point , if this is the consequences for OUR actions , it will be a blessing considering what happened on Virmire , because i think Mass Effect 3 will have many destructive results for your old and current actions , after all
it's considered to be the final battle .

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 06:07

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FlintlockJazz wrote...

Pryce86 wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...

Yeah, if they are telling the truth then Liara becoming the SB would a great consequence for cheating ("This will teach you for spurning me for that ho Miranda Shepard!  Bwa hahahahaha!").  Though then this raises the question of what would happen if you cheated on Ash/Kai and what happens if you didn't romance them to begin with.


I think you're mocking me on this one , lol ...


Not at all, I would love for a big consequence like this to happen as a result of choices in earlier games.  It would in essence be a good way of introducing a villain that truly does have a strong connection with the main character and especially the player, since it was the player's choices that resulted in it.


I just hate the idea about Liara gone rouge , she was the most lovable character in Mass Effect ( At least for me )

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Posté 18 mars 2010 - 06:13

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If I need to go through another Revan/Bastilla style "I love you, don't make me kill you" dialog in the Liara DLC or ME3, I'm going to send a bag of dog poo to Bioware. Because, that's only fair since that's what they sent me!


Yes , she made a lot of choices and WE appreciate what she did , but I've had enough of this nonsense I'm not leaving her running around killing people even if what they did was wrong they deserve a chance to explain and atone
for what we did I speak for myself  ( Killing was never my way in Mass Effect ) .
If Zaeed Massani had a little chat with her he'll realize hes a spiritual leader .
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