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[screwoffreg]

Its for real, but I imagine, like Kasumi's current dialogue, it will probably be replaced. The result of the DLC dialogue (Liara shadowbroker, ostensibly to help with the Collectors) is stupid as you can complete your mission without even paying attention to Liara at all. More than that, the "threat" from the Shadowbroker is nonexistant for Shepard and barely there for Liara. If the SB wanted Liara dead, she likely already would be.

[crimzontearz]

Ecael wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Pryce86 wrote...


She is already corrupted AND WE CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT , she wanted your help to get an information


first , then your help to hunt of the Shadow Broker Agents and after she killed him and killed The Shadow Broker she is planing to kill more of his agents and take his place ?


What the hell is wrong with BioWare !!!

Even as a simple information broker she's already starting to sound a lot like she's constipated her mother, who suffered from impacted bowels the effects of indoctrination.


Maybe Liara is also being indoctrinated by a Reaper? Then we'd be trying to save her instead of kill her in the next game.

bioware has the chance to rectify the poor handling of LIs...lord knows we have complained eloquently about it...now we will see if Bioware listened or not....but it appears they did not truly, of course I might be wrong since we have only a very few audio files

My post has a completely different meaning when the strikeouts aren't there.

lol so true

still

I read once in an article on GI (written by a developer) that oftentime thee reason why developers do not "listen" to the fans and do not communicate to the fans is that

1: fans tend to express themselves poorly. Their comments are often limited to "TEH SUXXORZ" and "OMG AWEZUM"

2: anything a developer says will be taken out of context and used against them by the fans themselves and by the specialized media


now the second part does not interest us right now, The first part tho is more relevant. Anyone who has  read through the support threads and in particular the 3 huge Liara threads knows that there were hundreds of multi paragraphs posts explaining just way people felt ripped off, turned away and did not care anymore about remaining faithful to the previous LI (expecially Liara ). I think that qualifies as  enough for the developers to understand just why people are disappointed and to formulate a plan to solve this.

now Bioware can 

1: aknowledge this and rectify it in the Liara DLC to at least make it LOOK LIKE there was a relationship (right now short of the kiss the relationship could have never existed)

or

2: keep doing what they are doing now and high five each other saying "we is tracking the cheatorz"

so far option #2 seems more likely

[Gabey5]

well that is a complete waste of money

[The Governator]

Mallissin wrote...

Since it's possible Liara becomes the Shadow Broker, I suggest people who had her as a love interest in ME1 make sure they have a version of ME2 without a love interest.

You'd hate to have a jilted Liara spreading rumors to the galaxy using her Shadow Broker connections about the size of your manhood.

You get enough male enhancement messages as it is!

IF Liara has Shepard kill the Shadow Broker and
IF Liara becomes the new Shadow Broker and
SINCE we already know who Liara is...

Wouldn't she just be the Broker?

[Mallissin]

Pryce86 wrote...

Mallissin wrote...

If I need to go through another Revan/Bastilla style "I love you, don't make me kill you" dialog in the Liara DLC or ME3, I'm going to send a bag of dog poo to Bioware. Because, that's only fair since that's what they sent me!

Yes , she made a lot of choices and WE appreciate what she did , but I've had enough of this nonsense I'm not leaving her running around killing people even if what they did was wrong they deserve a chance to explain and atone
for what we did I speak for myself  ( Killing was never my way in Mass Effect ) .
If Zaeed Massani had a little chat with her he'll realize hes a spiritual leader .

I was with you until that last line. Where the hell did Zaeed come from? I literally felt a smack on my cheek when I read it.

The Governator wrote...

Mallissin wrote...

Since
it's possible Liara becomes the Shadow Broker, I suggest people who had
her as a love interest in ME1 make sure they have a version of ME2
without a love interest.

You'd hate to have a jilted Liara
spreading rumors to the galaxy using her Shadow Broker connections about
the size of your manhood.

You get enough male enhancement
messages as it is!

IF Liara has Shepard kill the Shadow
Broker and
IF Liara becomes the new Shadow Broker and
SINCE we
already know who Liara is...

Wouldn't she just be the Broker?

She changes her named to Heart Broker (as in bad english for past tense of breaker).

Modifié par Mallissin, 18 mars 2010 - 06:34 .

[The Governator]

Mcjon01 wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Pryce86 wrote...

She is already corrupted AND WE CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT , she wanted your help to get an information
first , then your help to hunt of the Shadow Broker Agents and after she killed him and killed The Shadow Broker she is planing to kill more of his agents and take his place ?
What the hell is wrong with BioWare !!!

Even as a simple information broker she's already starting to sound a lot like she's constipated her mother, who suffered from impacted bowels the effects of indoctrination.

Maybe Liara is also being indoctrinated by a Reaper? Then we'd be trying to save her instead of kill her in the next game.

I just assumed that she's had a tenuous grip on her sanity at best ever since she got trapped in Prothean ruins for however many weeks I was off chasing Saren, then had her life's work stolen from her once she finally got freed.  Without Shepard around to keep her in line, she went full-on nutters.

Of course, that really only works if you enjoy torturing Liara like I do.

Heh, I am doing a playthrough in ME1 and going for that.  I just want to see the reaction.

[macrocarl]

You know, after hearing the sound files, I'm starting to think Jack has less baggage she's carrying around.

[Ecael]

screwoffreg wrote...

Its for real, but I imagine, like Kasumi's current dialogue, it will probably be replaced. The result of the DLC dialogue (Liara shadowbroker, ostensibly to help with the Collectors) is stupid as you can complete your mission without even paying attention to Liara at all. More than that, the "threat" from the Shadowbroker is nonexistant for Shepard and barely there for Liara. If the SB wanted Liara dead, she likely already would be.

We don't know for sure about Kasumi yet though. Right now all her dialogue is done by Khalisah bint Sinan Al-Jilani, Westerlund News.

[The Governator]

So...IS she the new information broker or isn't she? The DLC has not been released? Is this all speculation?



I think it would be a very interesting turn of events.

[screwoffreg]

Ecael wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

Its for real, but I imagine, like Kasumi's current dialogue, it will probably be replaced. The result of the DLC dialogue (Liara shadowbroker, ostensibly to help with the Collectors) is stupid as you can complete your mission without even paying attention to Liara at all. More than that, the "threat" from the Shadowbroker is nonexistant for Shepard and barely there for Liara. If the SB wanted Liara dead, she likely already would be.

We don't know for sure about Kasumi yet though. Right now all her dialogue is done by Khalisah bint Sinan Al-Jilani, Westerlund News.

I like the reporter!  Maybe we can play matchmaker in ME 3 and hook her up with Conrad Verner...two annoying characters who find each other.

[screwoffreg]

Pryce86 wrote...

Liara is almost 109 years old which means she will be the most dangerous person to hand the Shadow Broker MOST POWERFUL weapon to .
She still have maybe more than 1000 years to master the art of information collecting " She will be very powerful without The Shadow Broker's info imagine what she is going to be with that much of informations" as an individual she is one of the few people who saw and been through what Shepard been through .
If it comes to this I wish i will have the option to put her down ..

Look at it in the context of the Reaper War.  Yeah, she has a lot of potential, but wasting resources fighting the SB's organization when extinction is around the corner seems shortsighted.  Unless it is proven that the SB is working for the Reapers (which seems unlikely as in the comics he seems to just love money$$$), why kill what could be an important ally?

[The Governator]

But, Reg. Conrad is married!

[MagicalSarai]

The Angry One wrote...

If this is what the DLC entails, then BioWare have come up with the ultimate masochism for Liara fans.
You get to pay money to play a DLC where Liara's character is further assassinated and turned into something wretched.

Liara: "Yay we found the Shadow Broker! Let's kill him!"

Shadow Broker: "Blarg I am dead."

Shepard: "Alright that's over, you got your revenge, now come with me."

Liara: "No I am the Shadow Broker now! I have power! UNLIMITED POWER! HAHAHAHA!"

Shepard: "-_-;"

You have to admit... it would be funny to watch the flames of rage...

[screwoffreg]

MagicalSarai wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

If this is what the DLC entails, then BioWare have come up with the ultimate masochism for Liara fans.
You get to pay money to play a DLC where Liara's character is further assassinated and turned into something wretched.

Liara: "Yay we found the Shadow Broker! Let's kill him!"

Shadow Broker: "Blarg I am dead."

Shepard: "Alright that's over, you got your revenge, now come with me."

Liara: "No I am the Shadow Broker now! I have power! UNLIMITED POWER! HAHAHAHA!"

Shepard: "-_-;"

You have to admit... it would be funny to watch the flames of rage...

If Liara starts wearing a dark robe and saying:
Liara: "The Council will be REFORMED into a new Galactic Empire!!!"
Shepard: YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!

Then we should worry.

[Relshar]

Liara will be the new Shadow Broker. Ever watch the film Hitchiker ? Thats how new Shadow Brokers are made.

[The Governator]

With respect, I kinda hope she will become the new shadow broker. It would be a surprising twist that no one saw coming. Sometimes that stuff happens in stories. It is what makes characters compelling...or at least interesting.

[screwoffreg]

The Governator wrote...

With respect, I kinda hope she will become the new shadow broker. It would be a surprising twist that no one saw coming. Sometimes that stuff happens in stories. It is what makes characters compelling...or at least interesting.

I admit, it would be a brave choice and full of interesting plot opportunities.  Liara consumed by the dark side or will she really turn the whole organization around for good?

Perhaps even a confrontation with Liara if you don't play the game right...yikes.

Or maybe you choose between the new SB, Liara, or Cerberus and TIM as your mentors/advisors/information source. 

I support Martin Sheen, being a Latino though.  Sorry Liara...but I already gave him the Base anyway...

Modifié par screwoffreg, 18 mars 2010 - 07:23 .

[The Governator]

Yeah, I mean Revan was given a second chance, a character I loved (female Revan). Liara could travel completely down that dark path and still be redeemed. Look at Saren. Shepard was (paragon) still willing to offer Saren a chance even after all he had done.

[MagicalSarai]

screwoffreg wrote...

The Governator wrote...

With respect, I kinda hope she will become the new shadow broker. It would be a surprising twist that no one saw coming. Sometimes that stuff happens in stories. It is what makes characters compelling...or at least interesting.

I admit, it would be a brave choice and full of interesting plot opportunities.  Liara consumed by the dark side or will she really turn the whole organization around for good?

Perhaps even a confrontation with Liara if you don't play the game right...yikes.

Or maybe you choose between the new SB, Liara, or Cerberus and TIM as your mentors/advisors/information source. 
I support Martin Sheen, being a Latino though.  Sorry Liara...but I already gave him the Base anyway...

It could be heavily dependent upon whether or not liara was a LI, if shep cheated on her, or if Shep chose someone else in ME... then add on whether or not Shep was PAR or REN and if Liara learned by example... it could really be interesting in ME depending on the character choices.