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The Quarian Face: Speculating


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Mallissin

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My favorite fanart concept so far:

http://legendoftrini...Zorah-153563544

Klingon ridges for Shep309:

http://midnighteyego...Zorah-154246141

Example of what will not go over well with the Taliband:

http://dreadloke.dev...Rayya-124687241

Obligatory link to Tali face Mime thread!

http://social.biowar...index/931488/42

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Gotta love the face thread.

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Personally I think the Quarians would look a bit like Turians with human-like facial features.

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OniGanon wrote...

Personally I think the Quarians would look a bit like Turians with human-like facial features.


....isn't that the Asari? They pretty much have the same head tentacles but a human face.

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I was thinking more like metallic skin, hard plates, perhaps a neck that attaches further back on the skull, maybe even those flap things on the side of the face. They couldn't have a backwards pointing crest like that since it wouldn't fit in their helmets.

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Alls I know...they can't have hair. If they have hair, I'm gonna have a "WTF?" moment.



Kind of like every time I see Troy Polamula running around on field.



But what you mention makes sense, Oni. Not sure about the flaps, but the rest seems interesting. Kind of like the cute klingon concept Shep mentioned.

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Most likely they have some human-like features, excluding the hands and feet of course.



And for Tali, I'd imagine she'll be modeled by the voice actor Liz Sroka, as Miranda is modelled after her's (Yvonne Strahovski)



http://media.giantbo...0__1__large.jpg



Or at least that's what I hope for :-)

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Yah, Liz Sroka is pretty. I hope they use her as a base too.



@Timerider42: 13 hours late there, cupcake.

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Mallissin wrote...

Alls I know...they can't have hair. If they have hair, I'm gonna have a "WTF?" moment.

Tali has eyebrows so it wouldn't be such a stretch to say she has hair too.

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I'm expecting their faces to look like the rest of their body.



Almost human, but not quite.

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For some reason I imagine Tali with iridescent hair?

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OniGanon wrote...

I was thinking more like metallic skin, hard plates, perhaps a neck that attaches further back on the skull, maybe even those flap things on the side of the face. They couldn't have a backwards pointing crest like that since it wouldn't fit in their helmets.


You of-course base this reasoning on absolutely nothing.

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Grunt mentions that Quarians are harder than humans. This may, however, merely refer to the fact that they are always in their suits.

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Lalandrathon wrote...

Grunt mentions that Quarians are harder than humans. This may, however, merely refer to the fact that they are always in their suits.


All he says that they are not as soft as humans, there are any number of ways he could mean this.

Denser bones, thiker skin, suits... The list goes on.

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Landline wrote...

Lalandrathon wrote...

Grunt mentions that Quarians are harder than humans. This may, however, merely refer to the fact that they are always in their suits.


All he says that they are not as soft as humans, there are any number of ways he could mean this.

Denser bones, thiker skin, suits... The list goes on.


I have it on good authority that this is what he meant (right click + view image):

Image IPB

Modifié par Mcjon01, 21 mars 2010 - 12:31 .


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Gah! That reminds me of an episode of "Freaky Stories" (anyone remember this show, it had a puppet cockroach and maggot as hosts?) where some woman used tons of hair spray then they openned her skull and it was full of spiders. Ugh, scared the **** out of a 5 year old me.

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Shandepared wrote...
You of-course base this reasoning on absolutely nothing.


No, I base it on the Quarians sharing with the Turians the same limb structure, similarities in their biology, being both described together as 'less squishy' by Grunt, as well as the shape of their helmets and the designs of the Geth.

It seems to me if your race was stuck wearing helmets all the time, you'd make the helmets in some small ways reminiscent of the faces beneath. Also the Quarians obviously built the Geth in their image, and they were built before Quarians were all wearing environmental suits, so unless the Geth decided to radically alter their design years after the Morning War just to mimic the appearance of the new Quarian suits (and we're talking about a race that doesn't bother with windows because there's no practical benefit from them), the Geth may provide clues on the appearance of the Quarians.

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I think she has a beak.



QUACK QUACK!

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OniGanon wrote...

No, I base it on the Quarians sharing with the Turians the same limb structure, similarities in their biology, being both described together as 'less squishy' by Grunt, as well as the shape of their helmets and the designs of the Geth.


Quarians look closer to humans than they do to turians. What incommon do they have with turians other than having the same number of fingers/toes? turian leg structure is actually quite different, and especially the torso. Not to mention the quarian skeleton you can find shows that their skeletal structure is in many ways indentical to ours.

Geth platforms are far more bukly than any of the quarians we have seen.

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OniGanon wrote...

Shandepared wrote...
You of-course base this reasoning on absolutely nothing.


No, I base it on the Quarians sharing with the Turians the same limb structure, similarities in their biology, being both described together as 'less squishy' by Grunt, as well as the shape of their helmets and the designs of the Geth.

It seems to me if your race was stuck wearing helmets all the time, you'd make the helmets in some small ways reminiscent of the faces beneath. Also the Quarians obviously built the Geth in their image, and they were built before Quarians were all wearing environmental suits, so unless the Geth decided to radically alter their design years after the Morning War just to mimic the appearance of the new Quarian suits (and we're talking about a race that doesn't bother with windows because there's no practical benefit from them), the Geth may provide clues on the appearance of the Quarians.


Humans and Drell have similar biochemistry and nearly identical limb structure.  I guess that means humans have scales.

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Wow. Read like the first line and then promptly ignored the rest of the post, did you?



Turian and Quarian limbs look and move in a fairly similar manner. Difference is the Turians are less fleshy and have this extra knobbly bit on the back of their legs.



Saying that Grunt's comments could be about their suit doesn't really seem right. I mean, Volus wear suits. You might argue that the suits give some protection, but then many races wear armour just as or more protective than Quarian suits. Really, their suits and their reliance on them make them more vulnerable in a fight than other races, so it suggests that Grunt was talking about something more biological. Scales, tougher skin, hard plates, denser bodies, stronger bones, something about them makes them significantly tougher than Humans or Asari that a Krogan Warlord deems it worth noting.



And again, it seems to me if you're living in a suit forever, you'd make the suit look a little bit like you. So I think that both the Quarian suits and the Geth can provide clues on their true appearance.

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OniGanon wrote...

And again, it seems to me if you're living in a suit forever, you'd make the suit look a little bit like you. So I think that both the Quarian suits and the Geth can provide clues on their true appearance.

That sounds pretty reasonable to me. 

Another reason I don't think Grunt/Okeer was referring to the suit with his 'tougher' comments is that Okeer, being an old warlord, easily lived long enough to see the Quarians without their suits. In fact, the suits would have been a relatively recent addition if he was about 800 when he died. (Guessing Krogan lifespans from Asari comments on them living just as long as them).

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Well, I had some other stuff about how the average Quarian build seems too slender to suggest any kind of thick skin or armor plating, and that they probably don't have any (natural) metal in them since that's a uniquely Turian feature caused by their planet's weak magnetic field. I was also going to mention how all the concept art featuring Quarians and Geth make a point of showing how their arm and leg structure is similar, but nothing else, and that the "flashlight head" is the Geth's unique defining feature. I might have gone on to posit that the Quarians would not, in fact, make Geth in their image, since they weren't actually trying to create AIs so much as versatile farming equipment. The mobility design -- the arms and legs -- would have to sync up with Quarian physiology in order for the Geth to be able to accomplish the widest variety of tasks on the Quarian homeworld, but it's likely they would intentionally design the rest of the body to be as un-Quarian as possible, since having too much of a resemblance to your slave-race is probably a bit disturbing.

And Grunt doesn't say that Quarians are significantly tougher than Humans or Asari, simply that they're not as soft.

Unfortunately, I didn't voice a lot of that in my last post because I haven't slept in quite a while now, and holding on to thoughts is getting hard.

EDIT:  Also, I don't really see why the Quarians would make their suits look like they look under the suits.  I can see the suits being a sort of distillation of what Quarian clothing was like before they were forced from their homeworld, but actively modelling their suits after their own outer appearence would be like admitting that they're in space for the laung haul, and aren't going back to the homeworld anytime soon.  I can't see Quarians doing that.

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Hm, well if the Geth weren't made in the Quarian's image, that means that the Quarians made their environmental suits in the image of the Geth (the Geth's 'flashlight head' is very reminiscent of the Quarian's flashlight mouthpiece; there's no way that's an accident). I can't imagine the Quarians making themselves look like their worst enemy for the rest of their lives.



Alternatively, it means that sometime after the Morning War and the exodus of the Quarians from the Veil, the Geth monitored the Quarians, witnessed their new environmental suits and thought to themselves 'damn, that flashlight mouthpiece looks awesome. Let's redesign our heads to match it for no other reason except it looking awesome.' I mean, I guess it's possible that's how it went down since the Geth don't always do things that make practical sense even to them ('no data available').



If the Quarians and Turians were not signicantly tougher than Humans or Asari, I don't think a Krogan would consider a small difference worth mentioning.