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D.I.Y_Death

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Well got the dlc today and I have a few complaints.
First off we can't toggle the helmets on full suits of armor, some of us like to see Shepard's facial expressions.
Next the collector assault rifle is over powered as hell. Throw on some warp ammo and a suit that boosts your shields and you too can take down a helicopter before it manages to fire even one shot.
The singularity maker is just overkill. If by some miracle the enemy doesn't die (mostly due to shields) you can always switch to another weapon like the collector assault rifle and kill them before they know what hit them.

These make modes like insane absolutely stupid in terms of how easy you can blow through it. Please, for future DLC and ME games consider balancing the classes and weapons.

Modifié par D.I.Y_Death, 18 mars 2010 - 02:27 .


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And that's why I LOVE the Blackstorm...



Backed into a corner?

Low on Ammo/Medigel?

Sheilds Down?

Tech/Biotics recharging?



Whip out your trusty M-490 Blackstorm Singularity Projector and level the playing field!

That is...assuming you don't completely genocide it.

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While each one's gaming experience is different, in my personal experience the Collector Assault Rifle and Blackstorm are more like novelties than actual necessary weapons, especially when you're playing Hardcore and Insanity. The CAR is accurate and is decent against shields, but against Krogan or Vorcha the limited magazine and comparatively puny damage makes it impractical, and most enemies can be downed faster by either the Vindicator or Avenger, and the Blackstorm's charge time reduces its usefulness in close-quarters combat unless you have Tactical Cloak. Also, I find that the Blackstorm is not really what you'd consider an "anti-boss" weapon - most bosses (Praetorians, Colossus, even Ymir Mechs) can be killed way faster with the Collector Particle Beam, Arc Projector or even your trusty Grenade Launcher.

They're good weapons in certain situations, but not quite as "Overpowered" as one would expect.

Modifié par LoweGear, 18 mars 2010 - 12:20 .


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I think Heavy Weapons were added for the simple reason of enjoying the game and having fun. You don't HAVE to use the Cain to annihilate bosses if you want, but it helps.



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In my first playthrough I had it on my back for such a long time but never used it until the Reaper IFF mission when I was being ganged upon by a large group of Husk. I retreated up one of those ramps, and the only weapon that had any ammo was the Cain. Having no idea what was about to happen I charged it up and shot it at the horde, expecing something similar to the Grenade Launcher. Instead I OHKO'd about 10 of them at once and as they were busy being incinerated by the explosion I leapt out of my seat and gave myself a self-high five. That was the point of having them in the game. As I said before, if you don't like them, don't use them.



The Blackstorm is for those who bought the game with Play.com/Gamestop (such as myself), and whilst I'm unsure if I paid any more for the game than others did, the offer was there and I took it. I've used the Blackstorm a couple of times as well and have been very delighted with it's abilities. Infact the only Heavy Weapon I use a lot at all is the Firestorm, which lo and behold is another DLC related weapon.

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Yeah, there's really nothing forcing you to use DLC Weapons or Armor.



I myself only use the Blackstorm when in desperate situations where I'm pinned down.

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The DLC weapons and armor are overpowered - if you're playing on normal or casual. Sadly the game was balanced around those difficulties.

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The game's balance isn't offset by the various armor if you increase the difficulty levels. The overall balance is maintained by allowing each person to customize the experience.



If you feel the DLC is taking away from it you can switch up to insanity or simply leave it in the weapons locker.

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The collector assault rifle is complete garbage compared to the vindicator or revenant.



The best overall heavy weapon is actually that cryogun thing. Hghly effecient and very versatile, closesly followed by the non-seeking missle launcher, very good but very speciliazed for taking out hard single targets fast.

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The CAR is roughly balanced with the Avenger: it has less rate of fire but more damage per shot. It's the Arc Projector that's really just absurdly good, I'm told. I dunno, I'm a grenade launcher guy myself. Insanity player here.

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Did I miss some DLC? Collector Assault Rifle, Singularity Maker? When did these come out?

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Sockwolf wrote...

Did I miss some DLC? Collector Assault Rifle, Singularity Maker? When did these come out?


CAR is collector's edition only.  The Singularity Maker(Blackstorm I'm assuming) is a preorder bonus.

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Ah so I wouldn't be able to get them anyway.



That's ok then, thought I'd missed something ta for clarifying.

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vhatever wrote...

The collector assault rifle is complete garbage compared to the vindicator or revenant.

The best overall heavy weapon is actually that cryogun thing. Hghly effecient and very versatile, closesly followed by the non-seeking missle launcher, very good but very speciliazed for taking out hard single targets fast.


I gotta agree with this.  Anything that can freeze 12 collectors in 3 shots is insane (which is why I love it).  The missle launcher (seeking version) would be my second most powerful because once you figure out how to get it to hit who you want you don't have to expose yourself to fire.

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The seeking version fires too slow for my tastes. The whole point of a heavy weapon should be to inflict as much carnage as fast as possible. The other problem it has is that it often bugsout and won't even work on some of the major boss encounters.

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There is no "best" armor at all, nothing's over powered, If anything, they're worthless compared to the other N7 equipment



and with the Heavy weapons, its pointless to complain about them being "over powered" because that's what they were designed for

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And you really don't know what you're talking about if you think the Collecter AR is good at anything. Statistically, it's the pretty much the worst AR, it excells at absolutely nothing

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play on insanity.

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Arc projector Is Awesome

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vhatever wrote...

The seeking version fires too slow for my tastes. The whole point of a heavy weapon should be to inflict as much carnage as fast as possible. The other problem it has is that it often bugsout and won't even work on some of the major boss encounters.


I guess I just like the saftey the seeking one gives me.  I've never had it bug out on me so maybe I've been lucky with it.  Oh well I hardly use anything outside of the Avalanche anymore.

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scyphozoa wrote...

play on insanity.

Indeed, I've never done a playthrough on any other difficulty, I feel like I'm cheating :P

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xDarkicex wrote...

Arc projector Is Awesome

It's so much fun to bring this weapon to the N7 mission, Strontium Mule, and then to their base :)

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The irony is I am on my second play through on insanity.

The CAR is amazing when combined with ammo types since it has a good rate of fire and warp ammo deal absurd amounts of damage. When you see swarms of husks or units trying to flank you just bust out your black hole maker and laugh as you shoot the floating enemies.



For anyone who knows how to combine certain effects to deal more damage or have more chances to deal damage DLC content is extremely over powered. May as well just give us cheats again so I can get my survivor armor and super gun.

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It's a HEAVY WEAPON, it's supposed to be overkill. I just think it's not nearly OP'ed enough to warrant a discussion.



Any AR in the game performs as well if not better than the CAR so your arguement is moot. The Vindicator and Revenant are soo much better than the CAR,



What armor to you is "Over powered"?

I can tell you one thing, as an infiltrator I never even touch any of the pre order armors despite having every single one. The Kuwashii Visor's effects are far greater than any of the other bonuses.

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Go to the weapon load out in the armory on the combat deck of the Normandy SR-2. Click "Shepard" then go to your assault rifle tab and click "Choose" then select a rifle that fits your desired playstyle.

or is it that you want there to be exclusive dlc but you don't want it to be better than what is readily available in game? remember, you can get the vindicator (best gun in the game) as soon as you land on omega station.

if you're objecting to the way dlc is released, you're not going to convince anyone to release really lame and useless exclusive content as incentives for purchase or pre-order. the items have to be desireable.

if anything, use the geth pulse rifle. it is a trophy of your victory at haestrom on insanity. lastly, your argument about ammo types is not relevant, ammo types do make the CAR better. but they do not make the CAR better than the Vindicator. Vindicator with ammo types is basically the headshot machine of the game. its almost too easy because the gun is so accurate.

Modifié par scyphozoa, 18 mars 2010 - 02:53 .