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[R0cket Surge0n]

The collector assault rifle is awesome.

[vhatever]

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...

I'm a Sentinel and I use the Terminus Armor.
Is the Blood Dragon Armor really better?

It's debtable, really. The differences aren't that significant.

I think terminus is better for vanguards. Blood dragon for adepts/eng/sents. Infiltrators should stick with customized from beginning to end. Collector armor for soldiers, until late game, where you might want to switch around to a more head-shot oriented style. But in reality, they are all "roughly equal", as far as armors go.

[Gumbeaux Jr]

Cruc1al wrote...

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With regard to the Collector rifle, it's only good at medium-long range but even then it's worse than Vindicator. At close range, it's actually the worst gun in the game.

/Snip

Yeah, but it looks SO good on the back of the Collector's armor next to the Collector Projector Heavy...

Modifié par Gumbeaux Jr, 18 mars 2010 - 04:01 .

[cruc1al]

I think none of the DLC armors are worth it if you have all custom parts available for the N7 armor (except for looks).

E.g. the blood dragon armor gives +15% power damage and +10% shields, but wouldn't you rather have +10% power damage (umbra visor, amplifier plates), +10% health (life support webbing), and +10% shields (shield harness, heavy damping gauntlets)? Or if you like getting up close, you could trade +5% power damage for +25% melee damage.

EDIT: Gumbeaux Jr. that's actually my quote, not AngryFrozenWater's.

Modifié par cruc1al, 18 mars 2010 - 03:53 .

[Gumbeaux Jr]

Ha ha quote fail. My bad. Fixed.

[vhatever]

cruc1al wrote...

I think none of the DLC armors are worth it if you have all custom parts available for the N7 armor (except for looks).

E.g. the blood dragon armor gives +15% power damage and +10% shields, but wouldn't you rather have +10% power damage (umbra visor, amplifier plates), +10% health (life support webbing), and +10% shields (shield harness, heavy damping gauntlets)?.

Umm, FYI, umbral visor is DLC armor. Without DLC, the best you could do is 8% power damage. And shielding is far better for those classes than health. You can only get like 8% shielding, too, with that 8% power. So i'm not sure what you are "thinking".

[cruc1al]

vhatever wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

I think none of the DLC armors are worth it if you have all custom parts available for the N7 armor (except for looks).

E.g. the blood dragon armor gives +15% power damage and +10% shields, but wouldn't you rather have +10% power damage (umbra visor, amplifier plates), +10% health (life support webbing), and +10% shields (shield harness, heavy damping gauntlets)?.

Umm, FYI, umbral visor is DLC armor. Without DLC, the best you could do is 8% power damage. And shielding is far better for those classes than health. You can only get like 8% shielding, too, with that 8% power. So i'm not sure what you are "thinking".

Well you're right that Umbra visor is indeed DLC.

And I'm not quite sure what you mean by shielding being better for those classes than health. In essence they're both the same thing, so it doesn't matter which one you get bonuses for.

So let's scrap that Umbra visor. Instead, you'll get an additional +5% health from the helmet, so now you have +15% health, +10% shields and +5% power damage. Wouldn't you sacrifice +10% power damage for +15% health? I would.

Also it's apparently not a wise choice to pick any of the +3% bonuses over the +5% bonuses. I don't know why you'd want +3% power damage instead of +5% shields for instance.

[vhatever]

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cruc1al wrote...


Well you're right that Umbra visor is indeed DLC.

And I'm not quite sure what you mean by shielding being better for those classes than health. In essence they're both the same thing, so it doesn't matter which one you get bonuses for.

No, they aren't, shielding is better for every class except for soldiers, and significantly so. If you are getting hit in your health bar, you are going to be taking cover shortly, so any bonus health items you use are useless, as you never purposefully dip into that finally lit bit of health. Usually you stay up and shooting/using abilities until your shield is gone and you've suffered only minor damage. Then you wait for your shield to come back/reload.

cruc1al wrote...
So let's scrap that Umbra visor. Instead, you'll get an additional +5% health from the helmet, so now you have +15% health, +10% shields and +5% power damage. Wouldn't you sacrifice +10% power damage for +15% health? I would.

Also it's apparently not a wise choice to pick any of the +3% bonuses over the +5% bonuses. I don't know why you'd want +3% power damage instead of +5% shields for instance.

It depends on which of the three classes I mentioned if i'd want a 5% shield bonus over a 3% power bonus.  But, generally speaking Power bonus > shield bonus >>> health bonus.

[Lord Coake]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Except for the Arc, I don't think any DLC weapon or armor is worth using. The standard high-end stuff and upgrades all seem to perform better.

The Eviserator is a love/hate weapon.  Myself, I hate the thing.  It's magazine is too small for my style of play, and I can barely stand the Cerberus Assault Armor.

I'm hoping for more N7 armor pieces and non-heavy weaponry on DLC.  The Locust is a welcome addition.

[cruc1al]

vhatever, I hadn't thought about shield vs. health bonuses that way. I guess you're probably right that shield bonuses are more valuable effectiveness-wise if you're a defensive player. However any class can be successfully be played offensively, and in such a play style having health bonus over shield bonus can be even better since you don't get killed so easily once the shields are down.

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

it just depends on your playstyle. for instance if you use alot of incinerate and warp then you'll value the power bonus because it can mean killing someone in 2 shots instead of 3.

[Tazzmission]

SirHaxelot wrote...

I think Heavy Weapons were added for the simple reason of enjoying the game and having fun. You don't HAVE to use the Cain to annihilate bosses if you want, but it helps.

Slight Spoilers









In my first playthrough I had it on my back for such a long time but never used it until the Reaper IFF mission when I was being ganged upon by a large group of Husk. I retreated up one of those ramps, and the only weapon that had any ammo was the Cain. Having no idea what was about to happen I charged it up and shot it at the horde, expecing something similar to the Grenade Launcher. Instead I OHKO'd about 10 of them at once and as they were busy being incinerated by the explosion I leapt out of my seat and gave myself a self-high five. That was the point of having them in the game. As I said before, if you don't like them, don't use them.

The Blackstorm is for those who bought the game with Play.com/Gamestop (such as myself), and whilst I'm unsure if I paid any more for the game than others did, the offer was there and I took it. I've used the Blackstorm a couple of times as well and have been very delighted with it's abilities. Infact the only Heavy Weapon I use a lot at all is the Firestorm, which lo and behold is another DLC related weapon.

i only used the caine gun on the reaper iff mission thats all. one shot and pow mission over over. i did tst out the black hole gun and i loved it now the arch gun is pretty sweet but im still getting use to it. i never complain because hey its free you know

[Mimaiselphenai]

Just don't use the guns when you're looking for a challenge. What would you expect a DLC weapon to be? Weak? Obviously it's gonna give you an edge. If you can't avoid the temptation to use it, don't buy it. I have the collector rifle, but I'm gonna save it for my second playthrough when I don't care so much about the challenge of insanity mode. Plus, the revenant is too damn fun.

[cruc1al]

Mimaiselphenai, the collector rifle WILL let you down. It's not even in the same league as Revenant at close range or Vindicator at any range.

[vhatever]

cruc1al wrote...

vhatever, I hadn't thought about shield vs. health bonuses that way. I guess you're probably right that shield bonuses are more valuable effectiveness-wise if you're a defensive player. However any class can be successfully be played offensively, and in such a play style having health bonus over shield bonus can be even better since you don't get killed so easily once the shields are down.

No one routinely and inten tionally gets their life down to <15-20%. I don't care if you want to call the style of play defensive or offensive, they just don't do it, because they aren't morons that want to reload every couple minutes.

[Mimaiselphenai]

cruc1al wrote...

Mimaiselphenai, the collector rifle WILL let you down. It's not even in the same league as Revenant at close range or Vindicator at any range.

Eh, then I'll give it to squad members to mess around with since they can't use the Rev. Either way, I won't be heartbroken if I never use it. =P But yeah, the Vindicator is just amazing. Almost as good as the incisor, I think. Or as good, since it carries more ammo.

[D.I.Y_Death]

Mimaiselphenai wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

Mimaiselphenai, the collector rifle WILL let you down. It's not even in the same league as Revenant at close range or Vindicator at any range.

Eh, then I'll give it to squad members to mess around with since they can't use the Rev. Either way, I won't be heartbroken if I never use it. =P But yeah, the Vindicator is just amazing. Almost as good as the incisor, I think. Or as good, since it carries more ammo.

It won't let you down if you're looking for the perfect balance between rate of fire, kickback, accuracy, damage, clip capacity and bonus damage dealt to health, armor and barriers. Add on different types of ammo to compensate for any characteristics you don't like about the weapon and you've got yourself the perfectly balanced AR.

[Mimaiselphenai]

D.I.Y_Death wrote...

Mimaiselphenai wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

Mimaiselphenai, the collector rifle WILL let you down. It's not even in the same league as Revenant at close range or Vindicator at any range.

Eh, then I'll give it to squad members to mess around with since they can't use the Rev. Either way, I won't be heartbroken if I never use it. =P But yeah, the Vindicator is just amazing. Almost as good as the incisor, I think. Or as good, since it carries more ammo.

It won't let you down if you're looking for the perfect balance between rate of fire, kickback, accuracy, damage, clip capacity and bonus damage dealt to health, armor and barriers. Add on different types of ammo to compensate for any characteristics you don't like about the weapon and you've got yourself the perfectly balanced AR.

But perfectly balanced is boring. What's the point of being a soldier if you can't juggle weapons like a maniac?! I hear it's ridiculous when equipped on Zaeed and Garrus, though.

[cruc1al]

vhatever wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

vhatever, I hadn't thought about shield vs. health bonuses that way. I guess you're probably right that shield bonuses are more valuable effectiveness-wise if you're a defensive player. However any class can be successfully be played offensively, and in such a play style having health bonus over shield bonus can be even better since you don't get killed so easily once the shields are down.

No one routinely and inten tionally gets their life down to <15-20%. I don't care if you want to call the style of play defensive or offensive, they just don't do it, because they aren't morons that want to reload every couple minutes.

Heh, if you just want to duck behind cover like a coward go ahead. I like to have fun instead

[incinerator950]

Mimaiselphenai wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

Mimaiselphenai, the collector rifle WILL let you down. It's not even in the same league as Revenant at close range or Vindicator at any range.

Eh, then I'll give it to squad members to mess around with since they can't use the Rev. Either way, I won't be heartbroken if I never use it. =P But yeah, the Vindicator is just amazing. Almost as good as the incisor, I think. Or as good, since it carries more ammo.

Collector Rifle is a Medium range Rifle, not a goddamn Light Machine Gun.  It's like the Avenger, but the magazine holds less ammo.  Also, depending on how you play, you might like the Avenger more if you control your shots more or for whatever reason.  I myself prefer the Geth Pulse Rifle.

Another thing, Incisor Rifle is considered to be pissing ammo out, and most people prefer the Viper or the Widow instead.  For your teammates on the other hand, it's a god send because of their accuracy.  Same with the Collector/Vindicator. 

I just wish I could get my hands on the Incisor.

[RyrineaNara]

 The Blackstorm Singularity Projector. I like the gun myself it came in handy with mech's and stuff.

Modifié par RyrineaNara, 19 mars 2010 - 12:06 .

[xDarkicex]

Lord Coake wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Except for the Arc, I don't think any DLC weapon or armor is worth using. The standard high-end stuff and upgrades all seem to perform better.

The Eviserator is a love/hate weapon.  Myself, I hate the thing.  It's magazine is too small for my style of play, and I can barely stand the Cerberus Assault Armor.

I'm hoping for more N7 armor pieces and non-heavy weaponry on DLC.  The Locust is a welcome addition.

really I love both the cerb DLCs hope they get more like it

[Ibanez2009]

Heavy weapons are designed to inflict devastating damage. And since this is NOT an MMO I have no problem with wiping out a whole bunch of enemies with a single shot. Let's take the grenade launcher. Fire a grenade into a group... BOOOOOOM!!!! Down they go

[D.I.Y_Death]

incinerator950 wrote...

Mimaiselphenai wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

Mimaiselphenai, the collector rifle WILL let you down. It's not even in the same league as Revenant at close range or Vindicator at any range.

Eh, then I'll give it to squad members to mess around with since they can't use the Rev. Either way, I won't be heartbroken if I never use it. =P But yeah, the Vindicator is just amazing. Almost as good as the incisor, I think. Or as good, since it carries more ammo.

Collector Rifle is a Medium range Rifle, not a goddamn Light Machine Gun.  It's like the Avenger, but the magazine holds less ammo.  Also, depending on how you play, you might like the Avenger more if you control your shots more or for whatever reason.  I myself prefer the Geth Pulse Rifle.

Another thing, Incisor Rifle is considered to be pissing ammo out, and most people prefer the Viper or the Widow instead.  For your teammates on the other hand, it's a god send because of their accuracy.  Same with the Collector/Vindicator. 

I just wish I could get my hands on the Incisor.

You have no idea the kind of damage Garrus unleashes with the incisor. One shot usually brings down an enemy since all he does is head shots anyhow.

Collector is good for a higher level of gameplay. It's amazing for us Insane difficulty players becasue while you fire behind cover it is incredibly easy to aim, to the point that every shot should connect unless you're terrible at aiming. That is the CAR's best strength in my opinion.