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[Lambda Faction]

No problem! All depends on if Borders (or Amazon) gets the comic out on time. If not, I'm positive someone will beat me to the punch of posting. Kudos to IGN.



Thanks Zulu and Vagrant.



(In regards to T.I.M. and Saren's brother: Could Saren's brother be cause for T.I.M.'s own agenda? Something happened during the war? Yeah... too tired to think. Might have missed a plot element here or there.)

[Zulu_DFA]

Lambda Faction wrote...
In regards to T.I.M. and Saren's brother: Could Saren's brother be cause for T.I.M.'s own agenda? Something happened during the war?

I'm sure the comic is going to add some personal drama to TIM's character. I just hope it doesn't turn out that he is who he is exclusively due to it. The best formula would be that his initial principles led him to a sacrifice, which reinforced his resolve.

[Ashwraith]

DirtyVagrant wrote...

Mass Effect: Evolution #3 cover.

.....

*punches self in face*




There we go. Now that I'm capable of forming a coherent sentence again, that's a damn nice cover. Whgen these comics are released, I'm probably going to snatch them up like hotcakes. Particularly since now I'm curious as to what his relation is to Saren- like most of you on this thread, I suspect he may have something to do with the latter's brother being killed. It does kind of seem like the obvious conclusion to draw, but... we'll see.
And congratulations to Mr. Illusive on winning Character of the Year!  (Aaaaaah. The rightful order has been restored. In your face, VGAs.)

Modifié par Ashwraith, 16 décembre 2010 - 04:38 .

[Kim Shepard]

It would be interesting if whatever happened with Saren's brother caused both Saren and TIM to hate each other's species. I had originally thought that TIM's distrust of aliens was based on the First Contact War in general, and Saren's hate was more personal. But now that we know TIM was involved in the war himself, I'm not so sure.

Wasn't it mentioned at some point that TIM used to have a family?

[Zulu_DFA]

Kim Shepard wrote...

Wasn't it mentioned at some point that TIM used to have a family?

In the very beginning of Ascension novel it is stated so, but even there it's not clear if it's in the meaning of wife&kids or in a more broad sense of kinsfolk. We shall see. But if I had to bet a buck, I'd say that TIM lost a sweetheart to the scummy Turians.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 17 décembre 2010 - 12:04 .

[Barquiel]

I would be surprised if he has a family (wife and kids)

Sexual liaisons (past week):
-Sani Shelani, Illium Entertainment's Sexiest Human Alive
-Brooke Karrigar, Skyball Champion
-Vela Vicious, Fornax Dream Girl 2185
-Staci and Stephi Strong, the "Terra Firma Twins"
-Matriarch Trellani (twice)

[Zulu_DFA]

Barquiel wrote...

I would be surprised if he has a family (wife and kids)

Sexual liaisons (past week):
-Sani Shelani, Illium Entertainment's Sexiest Human Alive
-Brooke Karrigar, Skyball Champion
-Vela Vicious, Fornax Dream Girl 2185
-Staci and Stephi Strong, the "Terra Firma Twins"
-Matriarch Trellani (twice)

Missing the point, move along.

[Kim Shepard]

Yeah, I would guess that TIM lost at least one member of his family, and probably not a soldier. In all of the cover art I've seen, TIM isn't wearing armor and seems to be fighting in places where humans might live/work rather than battlefields. Or I'm just reading way too much into the cover art.

Barquiel wrote...

I would be surprised if he has a family (wife and kids)

Sexual liaisons (past week):
-Sani Shelani, Illium Entertainment's Sexiest Human Alive
-Brooke Karrigar, Skyball Champion
-Vela Vicious, Fornax Dream Girl 2185
-Staci and Stephi Strong, the "Terra Firma Twins"
-Matriarch Trellani (twice)

I doubt he has a wife and kids now. It sounded like TIM having a family was in the past. He might have had a wife and kids 30 years ago.

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

I do not believe he has a physical family, at least not anymore. I know Retribution sucked and is not canon, but it's stated that TIM is not some sort of alter ego of a normal person. TIM is the leader of Cerberus and that is all he is. I find this believable.

EDIT: Also, if anyone wants some lulz, check out the TIM thread in the general discussion thread.

Modifié par Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams, 17 décembre 2010 - 10:50 .

[Zulu_DFA]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

I know Retribution sucked and is not canon

1. Retribution is canon.

2. Although it does start with one epic fail (underestimation of Grayson), the rest of it is full of Cerberus win.

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

I know Retribution sucked and is not canon

1. Retribution is canon.

2. Although it does start with one epic fail (underestimation of Grayson), the rest of it is full of Cerberus win.

1. I've been under the impression from some emails Drew Karpyshyn wrote responding to fans that the novels are not canon. I may be wrong.

2. It wasn't the Cerberus parts as much as the whole Anderson/Sanders thing. So, Anderson gets an email from a girl from the past he hardly knows who wants to save an ex-assassin that works as a merc on Omega. Anderson goes behind the Alliance's back in order to lead a Turian squad to take a station, kill humans, and give them access to databases that will almost assuredly contain sensitive Alliance information. I don't know about you, but to me that is treason. If Retribution is canon, I want my Shepard to be able to ask Anderson, "do you even know what you're fighting for anymore?" If his answer doesn't satisfy me I want to put a round in the traitorous bastard. I know that would never be allowed happen, but I have this sinking feeling we'll be shoehorned into antagonism with TIM in ME3. That would make me a very sad panda.

[Zulu_DFA]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

I know Retribution sucked and is not canon

1. Retribution is canon.

2. Although it does start with one epic fail (underestimation of Grayson), the rest of it is full of Cerberus win.

1. I've been under the impression from some emails Drew Karpyshyn wrote responding to fans that the novels are not canon. I may be wrong.

2. It wasn't the Cerberus parts as much as the whole Anderson/Sanders thing. So, Anderson gets an email from a girl from the past he hardly knows who wants to save an ex-assassin that works as a merc on Omega. Anderson goes behind the Alliance's back in order to lead a Turian squad to take a station, kill humans, and give them access to databases that will almost assuredly contain sensitive Alliance information. I don't know about you, but to me that is treason. If Retribution is canon, I want my Shepard to be able to ask Anderson, "do you even know what you're fighting for anymore?" If his answer doesn't satisfy me I want to put a round in the traitorous bastard. I know that would never be allowed happen, but I have this sinking feeling we'll be shoehorned into antagonism with TIM in ME3. That would make me a very sad panda.

Agreed on #2,

As to #1, I've been arguing with Dean_the_Young a lot about this... And I'd say that a line by line analysis of Drew's e-mail suggests that it's the choice-land that is called non-canon in his books (no pun intended!).

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Agreed on #2,

As to #1, I've been arguing with Dean_the_Young a lot about this... And I'd say that a line by line analysis of Drew's e-mail suggests that it's the choice-land that is called non-canon in his books (no pun intended!).

Well, for Retribution to be cannon, Udina has to be Councilor in ME3. Otherwise, there is no way Retribution could have happened as written.

EDIT: to add something TIM related, I hope he introduces Shepard to Kai Leng. I think it would be cool for Leng to be a squaddie, but I think TIM would want to keep him around for his own purposes rather than handing him off to Shepard.

Modifié par Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams, 17 décembre 2010 - 01:27 .

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

I know Retribution sucked and is not canon

1. Retribution is canon.

2. Although it does start with one epic fail (underestimation of Grayson), the rest of it is full of Cerberus win.

1. I've been under the impression from some emails Drew Karpyshyn wrote responding to fans that the novels are not canon. I may be wrong.

2. It wasn't the Cerberus parts as much as the whole Anderson/Sanders thing. So, Anderson gets an email from a girl from the past he hardly knows who wants to save an ex-assassin that works as a merc on Omega. Anderson goes behind the Alliance's back in order to lead a Turian squad to take a station, kill humans, and give them access to databases that will almost assuredly contain sensitive Alliance information. I don't know about you, but to me that is treason. If Retribution is canon, I want my Shepard to be able to ask Anderson, "do you even know what you're fighting for anymore?" If his answer doesn't satisfy me I want to put a round in the traitorous bastard. I know that would never be allowed happen, but I have this sinking feeling we'll be shoehorned into antagonism with TIM in ME3. That would make me a very sad panda.

Whilst I agree with your points about Drew and his comments (I see it as him saying "This is the 'choice' I made for this story, it isn't canon" after all there isn't really a canon).

Regarding us being shoehorned into antagonism with TIM, I won't mind it so much as long as if need be we 'replace' him with someone else and still can class ourselves as being aligned with Cerberus. Either with some NPC that we get to meet in ME3 or maybe Miranda (if she is alive in the squad, in which case for my Cerb Shep she most definitly is as he romancing her) and she becomes TIW

I know when I got to the end of ME2, when you have the discussion with TIM, I did my best to try going through the speech without Shep seeming to want to push away from TIM as I know there are some of the renegade dialogue that does such but there is also the more neutral responses which don't.

I think one issue we have is that we are in a 'vocal minority' in comparison to the people who want Shepard to be fully away from Cerberus and so shoehorning is most likely (the obvious thing being that people claiming they were shoehorned in ME2 to work with Cerberus).

The one guiding light is that I think they will consider us the chance of being 'Pro Human' Shep. So maybe they will allow us to still have ties with Cerberus too

FOR CERBERUS AND HUMAN DOMINATION

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

I just hope we won't be forced into going against Cerberus and TIM, or Cerberus become evil stupid and tries to kill Shepard in ME3.

But at the same time. I also hope we can remove TIM from power and have our Shepard take his place in the end! 

[Zulu_DFA]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Well, for Retribution to be cannon, Udina has to be Councilor in ME3. Otherwise, there is no way Retribution could have happened as written.

http://social.biowar...index/5428987/2

There it is. See for yourself. Drew doesn't reassure the fans "Don't worry, your choices are not affected". He says "I am sorry your choices ARE affected".

Inquisition comic follows suit. Just like Retribution it doesn't specify which kind of Council it has in place, but Udina is the Councillor.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

I can't see them having TIM want to kill Shepard, that would be stupid unless he has found someone to take Shep's place as humanities saviour.

If the earth attack happens at the start, I definitly can't see them doing such in ME3.



It would be interesting if the CBase choice AND the conversation with him at the end of ME2 did make variables.



Because I remember one of the lines he says is "Your sure about this..." or words to that affect, I think it was with regards Shep stating that TIM wasn't needed (might be wrong), whilst some of the other options don't go anywhere near that, closest being a whole "Your job is information, if you step out of line or screw up, your gone" (or words to that affect).



Whilst I know it could be discarded as a throwaway line, it just seems crazy that they include the conversation with Miranda where she says she wishes Cerberus had recruited us earlier and Shepard having the option to state he wishes they had. Then for them to have Shep doing a 180 in that instance for no reason would be silly.



TIM going all, "At last, now we are the dominant species, I don't need you anymore" only time I could see that happening is once the Reaper threat is dealt with and even then am not sure it would be there

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

I can't see them having TIM want to kill Shepard, that would be stupid unless he has found someone to take Shep's place as humanities saviour.
If the earth attack happens at the start, I definitly can't see them doing such in ME3.

It would be interesting if the CBase choice AND the conversation with him at the end of ME2 did make variables.

Because I remember one of the lines he says is "Your sure about this..." or words to that affect, I think it was with regards Shep stating that TIM wasn't needed (might be wrong), whilst some of the other options don't go anywhere near that, closest being a whole "Your job is information, if you step out of line or screw up, your gone" (or words to that affect).

Whilst I know it could be discarded as a throwaway line, it just seems crazy that they include the conversation with Miranda where she says she wishes Cerberus had recruited us earlier and Shepard having the option to state he wishes they had. Then for them to have Shep doing a 180 in that instance for no reason would be silly.

TIM going all, "At last, now we are the dominant species, I don't need you anymore" only time I could see that happening is once the Reaper threat is dealt with and even then am not sure it would be there

The goes like this "You'r sure of this Shepard? You are taking one hell of a risk!". It's the response for taking the "Don't lecture me" option if you destroyed the base.

And you have a point about it not making sense for giving Shepard the option to say "I wish you did it sooner" if we are forced to hate them/kill them in ME3. But you can never be too sure.

[Zulu_DFA]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...


It would be interesting if the CBase choice AND the conversation with him at the end of ME2 did make variables.

The conversation is not meant to be recorded for import. The default import file is the autosave that occurs right before it, and there isn't any other save if you choose "Exit to Main Menu" after the credits roll.

[Phaedon]

mass murderers ftw



*flees*

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

Phaedon wrote...

mass murderers ftw

*flees*

TIM's anger burns blue towards paraSheps.

Modifié par Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams, 17 décembre 2010 - 04:05 .

[Phaedon]

 I am a Paragade, but I am still scared... 

Anyway, I hate TIM as a character, but Sheen was awesome, imho.

[Ashwraith]

Phaedon wrote...

mass murderers ftw

*flees*

Amen to that, my friend!
The Geth, Krogan, Council, Alliance, and.... well, let's be honest here, Shepard.... could all use a little more love! :3

[philiposophy]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

2. It wasn't the Cerberus parts as much as the whole Anderson/Sanders thing. So, Anderson gets an email from a girl from the past he hardly knows who wants to save an ex-assassin that works as a merc on Omega. Anderson goes behind the Alliance's back in order to lead a Turian squad to take a station, kill humans, and give them access to databases that will almost assuredly contain sensitive Alliance information. I don't know about you, but to me that is treason. If Retribution is canon, I want my Shepard to be able to ask Anderson, "do you even know what you're fighting for anymore?" If his answer doesn't satisfy me I want to put a round in the traitorous bastard. I know that would never be allowed happen, but I have this sinking feeling we'll be shoehorned into antagonism with TIM in ME3. That would make me a very sad panda.

Anderson did what?!

Wow. I'm never putting him on the Council now. Udina's time has come.

It's just a shame I couldn't put the Illusive Man there

[Phaedon]

But Udina practically ordered the murder of an executor!



But he's probably Cerberus anyway.