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[Ashwraith]

Lambda Faction wrote...

You people drive a hard bargain
with this LI stuff. Make with the fanart, Ash. I'm curious now.
(This thread needs more
pictures, anyway.)

Wellllll... >.>
Oh fine you twisted my arm.*



Yeah, it's more 'cinematic trailer' TIM than Sheen!TIM.
That is because the latter's face is infuriatingly difficult to draw.



*-It's a blatant lie! : D

Modifié par Ashwraith, 22 mars 2010 - 07:19 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

Martin Sheen. Yes.

[Vamp44]

lol Lamba. Mini-terminator is fine...except..he has glowing blue eyes. 


And Ash, that's a nice picture.

[Jean de Valette]

Lambda Faction wrote...
@Jean: I hope they do something along those lines. (It was mentioned in the CE Art Book "charming billionaire," anyway. I don't see "true evil" fitting that bill. I still stand by my earlier human nature comment.)

TIM isn't Chaotic Evil in the D&D sense. Or even that Evil at all.

TIM is ruthless, calculating and selflish. Which fits the Evil profile. However, if you the player pays attention towards Cerberus personel, they''ll find out that Cerberus takes care of its people. The convo of that one guy with a family on New Canton which gets shipped out by Cerberus just in time before a Collector attack is all telling. Or Sgt. Gardner, who may have not been a super soldier but offered a second chance "doing something right".

TIM also doesn't lie to you - he just doesn't tell you all you need to know. And that's the ruthless side. The only time I ever really doubted if he really lied to me was Jack's mission. I got the impression he knew perfectly well what was going down with the torture of children. But I can't prove it either that he personally led that cell.

TIM also refuses Miranda's suggestion of a control chip - a true Evil character would've certainly done that. Although I never fully trusted TIM, I trusted him enough not to blow that ship up once I got him what he wanted. He just spent too much money into Shepard to do that. And an Evil character wouldn't have wasted resources like that just to bring one guy back.

I also don't believe that TIM would use the Collector's base to make himself a human Reaper. That just wouln't fit his character.

TIM should offer something to Shepard in the lines of, chosing between the survival of an alien race or the human race. Which one gets to survive? Now there's a hard cookie for a paragon Shep to swallow.
And make him a Jack Bauer. Which is how I view my Shep sometimes, ruthless towards his enemies but highly protective of the innocent and even the armed ignorants who dare to threaten him.

[TrueHD]

Where can I get his pimping jacket?

[The Angry One]

Ashwraith wrote...

Lambda Faction wrote...

You people drive a hard bargain
with this LI stuff. Make with the fanart, Ash. I'm curious now.
(This thread needs more
pictures, anyway.)

Wellllll... >.>
Oh fine you twisted my arm.*



Yeah, it's more 'cinematic trailer' TIM than Sheen!TIM.
That is because the latter's face is infuriatingly difficult to draw.



*-It's a blatant lie! : D

Very noir. I love it.

[Wild Still]

TIM is a big doody head, seriously, a xenophobic megalomaniac... And you people want to be friends with him? TIM has a date with the business end of the Widow if you ask me.

Which you didn't



Also, The Angry One's new avatar is scary.

[Kim Shepard]

It'll be hard making some of my Shepards blow up the Collector base. I don't think TIM will try to make a human Reaper (mainly because it doesn't seem practical... harvest a good portion of Earth just to make one Reaper when there are at least hundreds more on the way?), but it's just not in their nature to keep it. I have more Shepards who will keep it than those who will destroy it though.



I hope he really didn't have anything to do with those tortured children in Jack's loyalty mission, or else a few of those Shepards who handed over the base will feel really guilty about it. Not the one who has a crush on him though. xD She would just say, "I'm sure he had a good reason." If he did make a human Reaper by harvesting Earth's population, she would say, "Oh well, I never liked them anyway."

[Mondo47]

Just thought I'd pop my head in and say that I like TIM - can't beat a classy, diamond-hard ambiguous bastard over the somewhat emo, flip-floppy conflicted mess that was Saren... I mean, could you ever talk TIM into topping himself because he feels a bit guilty? Nope 

Hopefully we'll have more whiskey and smokes in ME3 - you know it makes sense, Bioware

[Lambda Faction]

Sexy, Ash. Post more sometime.



@Jean: To clarify, my original human nature comment breaks down into the simplified; good/evil/morality is what the individual or society makes of it. Social conditioning (construction?), regards to religious arguments in Philosophy, free will (or the lack thereof.)



Charming billionaire was jokingly added. If you put that (loosely) and true evil (common definition) together, you get a person like Monty Burns from "The Simpsons." Most of my T.I.M./Reaper remarks are made jokingly as well, thus far.



Back on topic, you present a well-thought testament(?) for his person. Not absolutely sure that's the choice I would want to be presented with in the next game, but I can see where you are coming from.



@True: I would like to know this too...



@Wild: I don't see why everyone doesn't want to be friends with T.I.M.! He'll buy us all ice cream cones, and we'll jet around the universe in the newly built SR-3. Oh what fun we will all have! ;P



@Mondo: Well, there was that crying T.I.M. posted around thanks to Angry...

[Lambda Faction]

*coughcough*

[Ashwraith]

Lambda Faction wrote...

*coughcough*

I want that suit I want that suit wantwantwantwantwantwantWANT. *
*attempts to claw her way through the screen*

...Ahem.
Sorry.
I'm all right now. Really. >.>





*-Well. And the man inside it, too, I suppose.
But mostly the suit.
Any of them will do.
(So... stylin'. :0 )

Modifié par Ashwraith, 23 mars 2010 - 12:50 .

[Lambda Faction]

I'm a "Reservoir Dogs" kinda girl, I would go with suit #5.



I can see talking about this over tea... er, some sort of fancy, expensive alcoholic drink. Maybe he drinks Rémy Martin.

[Vamp44]

I'm seeing a picture and I'm liking what I'm seein. They succeeded in making the suit appealing. Well...that or TIM makes the suit succeed...

[The Angry One]

Lambda Faction wrote...

@Mondo: Well, there was that crying T.I.M. posted around thanks to Angry...

Oh you mean..




Though I'm sure he'll cry manly, illusive tears.
Also we need more Ceiling TIM.

[Vamp44]

Are they illusive because we can't see them or....?

[ExtremeOne]

I support him

[Fulgrim88]

SelphieSK wrote...

Weird that he didn't get a support thread earlier...

Indeed. And although i'm not into fanboyism, he definetely deserves some support.

Pretty interesting, multi-layered villain. I'm still unsure wether he's a better villain than Saren, though. Saren was the raw, angry and violent type of villain, yet still he was by no means one dimensional. By the time the events of ME1 take place, Saren has been indoctrinated for years. It's hard to tell what person and motives lie underneath.

TIM, on the other hand takes the sinister, inscrutable approach. Basically every dialogue screams that there's more to it than he's telling us and, judging by the events of the story, that's almost always the case.
Opposed to the predatory behaviour of Saren, TIM fits the "Spider in the web" metaphor and tbh, i'm far more (positively) scared of him, than i was of Saren. Still he's missing some of the aspects that made Saren "human" and fallible. ME1 was like a race to the goal, with us being always one step behind Saren, forcing him to work hard to keep the distance.
The same isn't possible with TIM, for not only does his character defy the idea of a single, driven man (He's more the head of a corporation which acts as his body), but also he's not even portrayed as a real antagonist, yet. Which both makes him feel a little detached, even if he might be strongly interested in the events.
I suppose we'll have to play ME3 to see where he's going

[Lambda Faction]

I'm going to have to look into that Star Trek thing, Johnny. Thanks. I should put a link to that somewhere in the original post.

HA! Angry is back! You've just made my day. Ceiling T.I.M., if that's anything like Ceiling Cat... yeah, no.

(I somehow predict an "Invisible Chair T.I.M." on the agenda for some VERY horrible reason. )


EDIT:

@Fulgrism: I'd like to think everyone here is just having a little fun. Though, more often than not, you can spot the bats*** crazy people. I would stay away from them if you see them, I hear they bite.

Modifié par Lambda Faction, 24 mars 2010 - 02:30 .

[Lambda Faction]

Geez, you'd think that my comment about rabid fanboys and girls scared everyone off. I was talking Conrad Verner style fanaticism, you know.



(Then again, it is Hammerhead day... and my 360 has an E74 error. *shakes fist*)

[Ashwraith]

Well, I can't say anything. I've been quiet lately because I have gotten sucked back into playing DA:O.
I know, I know. Judas. X3

God forbid I should ever have anything in common with Conrad Verner. ;3;

Modifié par Ashwraith, 24 mars 2010 - 03:41 .

[BeresaadSoldier]

TIM's as much a political figure as the Council tbh. He has his own agenda and runs with it regardless of the consequences.



And imo he's the 1 character in ME2 you can't just "figure out" in a few minutes, which you have to agree means a whole lot in a video game. Throughout your adventures, you're pretty certain where things are going. TIM, by being himself, adds a lot of variables and makes things more interesting and complicated at the same time. You don't know if he'll betray you, you don't know if he'll save humanity. Ultimately, how you feel about TIM is based on instinct, and the player's own RP experience. That's what makes him a great character. Kudos to the writing team for his creation.