Internet Kraken wrote... I know that. But if the Reapers don't favor insectoid species, then why did they turn the Protheans into bugs rather than keep them in their original form? Why do they use the Keeper, rather than some other species? It's not neccesairly true, but it make some sense.
Seems to me the Reapers are combining the best traits of each race they conquer to make the Collectors. They took the three string DNA structure from the Protheans.
Also should mention that the Collectors might have been inside combat suits, since you get a set with the Collector Edition.
It's just occured to me, but maybe the Leviathan of Dis is...a joke? An organic 'living starship' called Leviathan...that sounds kind of familiar...Remote possibility, I know, but Mass Effect has a lot of sci-fi in-jokes (see also: everyone going OH GOD ASARI CONTROLLING MY BRAINS over a space beer goggles joke). Might be worth consideration.
The date for the Leviathan's discovery is also a guestimation. There was no mention of an exact year in the Codex or any book, just that the Battarians took the Leviathan "twenty years ago". ME1 took place in 2183, so exactly twenty years would be 2163, but that's assuming they meant exactly 20 years. In fact, I think I'll go argue about it on the Wiki!
Anyway, even if you accept the guestimations, are we going to argue about a year difference? Could have just been a math error on a writer's part or maybe it took a year for Had'dah to get a dreadnaught to pick it up. The fact the Leviathan and Sovereign were discovered in similar locations should also be heavily considered.
That's fair, I didn't know that the dates were guesstimations - I thought they were explicitly stated somewhere; the wiki should be edited to say "circa 2163" in that case. No, I won't argue over a year when estimates are involved. You should also recognize that the two are not explicitly linked. Enormousmoonboots could very well be correct that the Leviathan is nothing more than yet another allusion. Mass Effect is permeated by allusions, so this wouldn't surprise me either.
I thought it was fairly clear that the Rachni were turned hostile by a Reaper, and that Sovereign was the only (functional) Reaper within our galaxy - ergo, Sovereign turned the Rachni hostile.
Reapers were not mentioned during the Rachni discussion. If you read the transcript, it's more likely the tone dialog was talking about the Krogans exterminating the Rachni and not indoctrination. It's the "oily blackness" line that has people assuming Reaper indoctrination. And Sovereign was not necessarily the only Reaper in the Milky Way, either. For someone dropping "Occam's Razor", you're taking some pretty big leaps.
That aside, I'm pretty sure Sovereign was not involved with the Rachni. I hope the Rachni play a big part in ME3 so we can figure out what happened, but I have a feeling the whole Rachni subplot is really just an allusion to Ender's Game. In the books, the Buggers attack on Humanity wasn't hostile but a galactic misunderstanding.
The Reapers are mentioned - not in ME1, but in ME2. Here's the conversation: While she says, "I can't say for sure", it's certainly the simplest explanation to blame the Reapers, as they are the only group we have seen with that capability. I don't think the Rachni storyline is critical to the main plot of ME, but I do think it's more than just an allusion. Even if it's nothing else, it is at least an important piece of backstory. I expect the Rachni to only play a part in ME3 if you saved the Queen in ME1. Clearly, the Queen is promising to help you fight when the time comes. I'm curious to see how that will play out.
Of course, it's just as likely that your actions will directly result in millions of deaths and/or the deaths of every sapient being in the galaxy. Hypothetical-land is a barren, death filled world, after all.
I'd rather take chances with what I know than with what I don't know. If the rachni are that important then once again that just reinforces my point that letting the queen out is a huge risk.
drew.winters wrote... That's fair, I didn't know that the dates were guesstimations - I thought they were explicitly stated somewhere; the wiki should be edited to say "circa 2163" in that case. No, I won't argue over a year when estimates are involved. You should also recognize that the two are not explicitly linked. Enormousmoonboots could very well be correct that the Leviathan is nothing more than yet another allusion. Mass Effect is permeated by allusions, so this wouldn't surprise me either.
An allusion to Warhammer 3000? NEEEEEEEVAaaaaah!
Sovereign, definitely Sovereign.
The Reapers are mentioned - not in ME1, but in ME2. Here's the conversation: While she says, "I can't say for sure", it's certainly the simplest explanation to blame the Reapers, as they are the only group we have seen with that capability. I don't think the Rachni storyline is critical to the main plot of ME, but I do think it's more than just an allusion. Even if it's nothing else, it is at least an important piece of backstory. I expect the Rachni to only play a part in ME3 if you saved the Queen in ME1. Clearly, the Queen is promising to help you fight when the time comes. I'm curious to see how that will play out.
Is saving the Rachni queen a default for new characters in ME2? If so, the Rachni will probably have a big part in ME3. If not, probably a small little cameo at some point even though I have high hopes that Bioware will heavily reward people who import saves that came from ME1 and ME2.
Anyway, we should just blame the Reapers for everything. They probably brought scale itch on board too.
drew.winters wrote... That's fair, I didn't know that the dates were guesstimations - I thought they were explicitly stated somewhere; the wiki should be edited to say "circa 2163" in that case. No, I won't argue over a year when estimates are involved. You should also recognize that the two are not explicitly linked. Enormousmoonboots could very well be correct that the Leviathan is nothing more than yet another allusion. Mass Effect is permeated by allusions, so this wouldn't surprise me either.
An allusion to Warhammer 3000? NEEEEEEEVAaaaaah!
Sovereign, definitely Sovereign.
The Reapers are mentioned - not in ME1, but in ME2. Here's the conversation: While she says, "I can't say for sure", it's certainly the simplest explanation to blame the Reapers, as they are the only group we have seen with that capability. I don't think the Rachni storyline is critical to the main plot of ME, but I do think it's more than just an allusion. Even if it's nothing else, it is at least an important piece of backstory. I expect the Rachni to only play a part in ME3 if you saved the Queen in ME1. Clearly, the Queen is promising to help you fight when the time comes. I'm curious to see how that will play out.
Is saving the Rachni queen a default for new characters in ME2? If so, the Rachni will probably have a big part in ME3. If not, probably a small little cameo at some point even though I have high hopes that Bioware will heavily reward people who import saves that came from ME1 and ME2.
Anyway, we should just blame the Reapers for everything. They probably brought scale itch on board too.
Default Shepard has no romances, did not recruit Garrus, no side quest where done (as such some characters are not showen) Wrex is dead, the Rachni is dead and the council is dead and Udina is the ocuncler. This was made for people who never played the first game so no one got confused.
Shandepared wrote... The fact that I am not sure is the entire point! I am not sure one way or another what the queen will do.
Good or Bad
Shandepared wrote... Therefore I will not take the risk, not when the consequences could be so severe.
Could be but in fact you don’t know. How on earth could you kill anyone if knows that there’s something wrong?. You know about it talking with the researchers and the queen herself. On the other side you have the history but that’s the past… can be repeated or not. The history may serve to judge but to prejudge also (right and/or wrong) Could be a severe risk but that means extinguish a race with a weak basis … at the end is up to your role
About the OP, I “don’t know”, many loose ends and I think this can be easily twisted/arranged by Bioware in many ways.
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