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[i love fire]

lol what we need to remember is its a expansion pack not a huge game when i bought it i didnt think it would be a huge game expansions are sm all with not that much of a change i do love the new skills and the armor and the lvl gap

[redkev]

@jennamarae



Probably to most accurate description I would give Awakenings is 'Spin-Off'.



There is no way, in my view, that it should be called an 'expansion'. It doesn't expand the game or STORY of Origins in any way, shape or form. It is merely a mini-game completely independent from the main plot, but needs Origins to play.

[Blue_dodo]

maybe ,and I am saying "maybe", becausepeople expect to much out of everything and often time those expections are really what the want to see, we all do it but some people really want to much.



thats or perhaps because of the fact that the price is almost the cost of a seperate game, the thought it would be a sequel, it isn't and bioware has clearly stated it's an expanion nothing more



also if people just skip everything a do the main quest then yeah it will be short, but if you do all the other quests (there are alot of those) then your playthrough lasts way longer.

[geertmans]

redkev wrote...

@jennamarae

Probably to most accurate description I would give Awakenings is 'Spin-Off'.

There is no way, in my view, that it should be called an 'expansion'. It doesn't expand the game or STORY of Origins in any way, shape or form. It is merely a mini-game completely independent from the main plot, but needs Origins to play.

I guess I don't have any trouble calling it that. I didn't really expect it to be something radically different than a spin-off. Still I think it was worth the money and time though. Perhaps playing it with the same character as the one people used in Origins is a mistake, I dunno, I don't have many trouble with it.

[redkev]

geertmans wrote...

redkev wrote...

@jennamarae

Probably to most accurate description I would give Awakenings is 'Spin-Off'.

There is no way, in my view, that it should be called an 'expansion'. It doesn't expand the game or STORY of Origins in any way, shape or form. It is merely a mini-game completely independent from the main plot, but needs Origins to play.

I guess I don't have any trouble calling it that. I didn't really expect it to be something radically different than a spin-off. Still I think it was worth the money and time though. Perhaps playing it with the same character as the one people used in Origins is a mistake, I dunno, I don't have many trouble with it.

True. I don't think there's anything wrong with Awakenings itself. Well apart from the bugs caused by patch 1.03 (any updates on this, Bioware?). I think if you treat it as a spin-off then you'll find it enjoyable. If you think of it as an expansion, that is where you will be disappointed. You're right about importing characters. Probably the best way to get maximum benefit from Awakenings is to start from scratch as an Orlesian. Personally I've no intention of importing any characters  (considering my favourite one did the US ending) and pretending (from an RP perspective) this expansion is something that it is not.

Overall I'm annoyed and disappointed with Bioware with this. Annoyed because they marketed it as an Expansion, got everyone excited, when it is clearly not. Disappointed because they have missed an opportunity here. We all know Bioware can do better than this.

[Nukenin]

I'm playing as an Orlesian Grey Warden partly because I've yet to complete the original game (despite owning it since release and playing it many, many times with many, many characters) and partly because some of my DA:O characters have grown fond of their Warden Commander armor (and the perfect companion Helm of Honnleath, though apparently that is transferring over for some).



This has the mild drawback of the story of Awakening being solidified in my perception as the Orlesian Grey Warden's story, and not any continuation of the Origins Grey Warden's story. But I'm okay with that.

[Raider777]

Because it's 40 dollars. That is more than Origins cost me. Origins was on sale for 35.00 at multiple retailers a week or two after it came out. The reviews say that awakenings is less than half as long. How is that worth 40 dollars? Also there is just no excuse for the DLC items not transfering. We paid good money for that DLC and it should transfer. I'm sure it's more a lazy coding issue than a balance issue.



I was really looking forward to this, but now I don't know if I'll get it unless it drops in price. A smart move would have been to put awakenings up at midnight EST. I would have bought it out of anticipation it was up then. It didn't get put up till after 3 am PST though.

[Kurtze]

redkev wrote...

@jennamarae

Probably to most accurate description I would give Awakenings is 'Spin-Off'.

There is no way, in my view, that it should be called an 'expansion'. It doesn't expand the game or STORY of Origins in any way, shape or form. It is merely a mini-game completely independent from the main plot, but needs Origins to play.

Yes. This is why I'm dissapointed. I was expecting to see the next chapter and got a short story instead.

[geertmans]

Raider777 wrote...

Because it's 40 dollars. That is more than Origins cost me. Origins was on sale for 35.00 at multiple retailers a week or two after it came out. The reviews say that awakenings is less than half as long. How is that worth 40 dollars? Also there is just no excuse for the DLC items not transfering. We paid good money for that DLC and it should transfer. I'm sure it's more a lazy coding issue than a balance issue.

I was really looking forward to this, but now I don't know if I'll get it unless it drops in price. A smart move would have been to put awakenings up at midnight EST. I would have bought it out of anticipation it was up then. It didn't get put up till after 3 am PST though.

Well I'd still suggest to buy it once the price has dropped to 15 $. It may not have the same impact as Origins had but it is by no standards, bugs aside (which I haven't encounterd), a bad game.

Modifié par geertmans, 18 mars 2010 - 07:17 .

[ToJKa1]

This is exactly why i never read any pre-release information. I'll see peoples opinions and gameplay trailers after a game's been released, and therefore have no unreasonable expectations. Also i never pre-purchase games, except BioWare's and few other developer's ones. This the reason why i have been happy with pretty much every game i've bought

Steam is still downloading Awakening (stupid 1 Mbps ADSL ) so i can't comment on it yet, however the many threads on these forums have given me a pretty good idea on what to expect.

Modifié par ToJKa1, 18 mars 2010 - 07:18 .

[geertmans]

Kurtze wrote...

redkev wrote...

@jennamarae

Probably to most accurate description I would give Awakenings is 'Spin-Off'.

There is no way, in my view, that it should be called an 'expansion'. It doesn't expand the game or STORY of Origins in any way, shape or form. It is merely a mini-game completely independent from the main plot, but needs Origins to play.

Yes. This is why I'm dissapointed. I was expecting to see the next chapter and got a short story instead.

But how could you expect the next chapter when the original game ended so nicely?

[Sayalol]

It was supposed to be an expansion. Bioware said it was an expansion, it was classified as an expansion, but it didn't hold up. People had high expectations because it's predecessor was amazing. Plus, with the cost of Awakening, that adds on to what you should be expecting.



An expansion is supposed to add to the story, add to the game play, and add more things to do. Awakening removed our DLC from Origins, removed the ability to have conversations with your party to learn more about them, gain their trust, or mistrust, and open side quests for them.



Awakening added in a few new spells, 5 new party members that don't have a lot worth noting personality wise, a few new spells, and an 8 hour long quest.



It wasn't worth the money at all.

[ejoslin]

Mlai00 wrote...

How come people have these extreme expectations of Awakening?

Forty. US. Dollars.

This.  DA:O was $50.

Edit: I paid $65 for the collectors edition and I would have paid more for it because it was worth it. DA:A.  No.  And I'm worried that that is now where the bar is.

Modifié par ejoslin, 18 mars 2010 - 07:36 .

[Bibdy]

Raider777 wrote...

Because it's 40 dollars. That is more than Origins cost me. Origins was on sale for 35.00 at multiple retailers a week or two after it came out. The reviews say that awakenings is less than half as long. How is that worth 40 dollars? Also there is just no excuse for the DLC items not transfering. We paid good money for that DLC and it should transfer. I'm sure it's more a lazy coding issue than a balance issue.

I was really looking forward to this, but now I don't know if I'll get it unless it drops in price. A smart move would have been to put awakenings up at midnight EST. I would have bought it out of anticipation it was up then. It didn't get put up till after 3 am PST though.

You're comparing 'on sale' price of the original versus release day price of the expansion...

Dur?

[Raider777]

Bibdy wrote...

Raider777 wrote...

Because it's 40 dollars. That is more than Origins cost me. Origins was on sale for 35.00 at multiple retailers a week or two after it came out. The reviews say that awakenings is less than half as long. How is that worth 40 dollars? Also there is just no excuse for the DLC items not transfering. We paid good money for that DLC and it should transfer. I'm sure it's more a lazy coding issue than a balance issue.

I was really looking forward to this, but now I don't know if I'll get it unless it drops in price. A smart move would have been to put awakenings up at midnight EST. I would have bought it out of anticipation it was up then. It didn't get put up till after 3 am PST though.

You're comparing 'on sale' price of the original versus release day price of the expansion...

Dur?

Actually it was on sale at some places for 35 dollars a week or 2 after release. I got a copy through amazon.com for 35 and free shipping.

Are you trying to say that this is going to be 25 dollars in 2 weeks if I wait? I doubt it.

[Raider777]

geertmans wrote...

Raider777 wrote...

Because it's 40 dollars. That is more than Origins cost me. Origins was on sale for 35.00 at multiple retailers a week or two after it came out. The reviews say that awakenings is less than half as long. How is that worth 40 dollars? Also there is just no excuse for the DLC items not transfering. We paid good money for that DLC and it should transfer. I'm sure it's more a lazy coding issue than a balance issue.

I was really looking forward to this, but now I don't know if I'll get it unless it drops in price. A smart move would have been to put awakenings up at midnight EST. I would have bought it out of anticipation it was up then. It didn't get put up till after 3 am PST though.

Well I'd still suggest to buy it once the price has dropped to 15 $. It may not have the same impact as Origins had but it is by no standards, bugs aside (which I haven't encounterd), a bad game.

I would definitely buy it for 15. I would pay up to 25 for it based on what I've read.

[jennamarae]

redkev wrote...

Probably to most accurate description I would give Awakenings is 'Spin-Off'.

That'll work. Not quite a perfect fit, but much better and much more accurate than calling it an expansion..

[Cardantus]

From all the reviews I've read, Awakening looks like $20 worth of good, enjoyable gameplay. Too bad they're selling it for twice as much. I'm not going to encourage this trend of making 40% of a full game while charging 80% of a full game price (the DLCs are even more outrageously priced compared to what you get). Purchasing such products only encourages Bioware to continue such a development strategy.



Personally, I'll be waiting until they drop the price to something commensurate with what they're offering ($20 seems about right)...if they want to continue offering products at that price point for that little content, I have no problem taking my business elsewhere until that changes (and no, that doesn't mean I'll pirate it in the meantime...I simply won't play the game).

[Haexpane]

Awakenings is righteous, but it did not do my laundry!!!



E RAGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[Moogliepie]

hawat333 wrote...

^
Agreed

Let's make it even more simple.
One word: BioWare.

Two words: Electronic Arts

Here's some more words:

Origin Systems > Electronic Arts
Bullfrog > Electronic Arts
Maxis > Electronic Arts
Westwood Studios > Electronic Arts

[rammsoldat]

I dont have high expoectations id just like to be able to buy it. With it being more expensive than any expansion pack ive ever seen im reluctant to buy it. Hell ive got a load of pc game expansions for the likes of dawn of war and the sims and they've never cost me more than 20 quid, i was hoping awakening would be about 25 but its not its 32 wich is the price of a full game. I could get battlefield or final fantsy 13 for that much.

[Loerwyn]

@rammsoldat;

You're comparing PC expansions to console expansions. Don't! There's a price difference due to the platform. It's like saying £40 console games are expensive because you've never paid more than £30 for a PC game.

[poopville]

I wonder if Awakening was never intended as a tie-in to the Origins story and trying to make it so was a last-minute decision. That would explain why the connections between the two are so light. Maybe the real continuation is down the road in a full-blown sequel (2.1.2011)?

[geertmans]

poopville wrote...

I wonder if Awakening was never intended as a tie-in to the Origins story and trying to make it so was a last-minute decision. That would explain why the connections between the two are so light. Maybe the real continuation is down the road in a full-blown sequel (2.1.2011)?

Yes, as I mentioned before it seems like this was a decision that was put in after the release of Origins. Perhaps ME2 put some pressure on it or so. Either way, I think the game has a pretty decent story when you think about it as a spin-off.

I don't understand how people expected the next chapter when the original game ended so neatly, but I guess making the game and its expansion intertwine resulted in a too much of a jack of all trades add-on.

[Moogliepie]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

@rammsoldat;
You're comparing PC expansions to console expansions. Don't! There's a price difference due to the platform. It's like saying £40 console games are expensive because you've never paid more than £30 for a PC game.

Console expansions are a pretty new thing. Didn't the FO3 expansions only cost $20 when released? The only expansions I can think of that cost this much in recent times are MMO expansions, but those are  typically enormous.