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[MEMANIAsama]

I know we have a giant topic filled with bugs, but I'd like to elaborate on this issue here, maybe in hopes of getting a response from our newly appeared Dev.

I know there are other bugs like... Zevran's Male Lover being referred to as a girl in the epilogue. Shale not showing up in any cutscenes or anything. Maybe a few other things involving Morrigan during the finale. But...

I'm here PRIMARILY to talk about kings. This seems to be beyond bugged. Seems like Alistair is destined to be the king on the 360 no matter what choices you make. Pretty irksome, especially since this transfers over to Awakenings, so it's a pretty large blunder of a story related glitch. Also, apparently you can't marry Anora as a human noble, or at least from what I hear, it never acknowledges that. It seems like a lot of the epilogue stuff is set in stone on the 360 due to some sort of coding error I'm sure.

While not as "high demand" as the save game glitch, this is the other major glitch that's preventing me from enjoying the rest of the game and purchasing Awakenings.

PS. There's also a few people you can't interact with in the prison, preventing you from getting recruits to join your side during Landsmeet.

Modifié par MEMANIAsama, 18 mars 2010 - 01:57 .

[Michael Lang]

That's interesting. Did you pick Anora to be queen at the end of Origins and still get Alistair as king in Awakenings?

[MEMANIAsama]

Michael Lang wrote...

That's interesting. Did you pick Anora to be queen at the end of Origins and still get Alistair as king in Awakenings?

I can't personally vouch for that one, but I do know it's been reported by multiple folks in bug threads that the following are some pretty buggy story related issues:

- Many npcs in Howe's dungeon won't intitate conversations when you try
to talk to them. Such as Vaughn and Soris. Which prevents you from
recieving some aid at the landsmeet.

- In the description of the quest to save Connor. It always says Isolde
sacrificed herself no matter which way you complete the quest. (Hopefully this doesn't effect Awakenings.)

- EVERY ENDING WHERE ALISTAIR DOES NOT BECOME KING IS BUGGED. He
always refers to himself as king from after the landsmeet on no matter
what choice you made. If you are a human noble who marries anora and has
Alistair kill Loghain. The ending is impossible to complete. Anora goes
invisible and Alistair will be standing there in king's armor. He also
does the king's speech for leading the charge to the battle of denerim
instead of Anora.

- Shale does not appear in the epilogue scenes, the ending does not acknowledge the Shale DLC being present or not.

I think those are all the "major" ones I can find and/or think of. I personally stopped my game a bit before Landsmeet and decided not to continue with that stuff until the story related issues get a patch. As for how I know it transfers to Awakenings, there have been a few posts, but here's a quote from one of them:

G1ganotosaurus wrote...

It seems that in the first few
minutes of playing, that my human noble, who married the queen and
became king of fereldan, is bowing down to alistair the supposed
king??? Heck naw. Heck naw. Oh hell no.

[MEMANIAsama]

Am I the only person experiencing these issues? I'd imagine not. If you've encountered these bugs, post here. I'm almost positive It's not an isolated incident.

[that girl]

I chose Queen Anora in my Origins playthrough and in Awakenings, (King) Alistair came to the Keep. However, N. Howe mentioned "Queen Anora's service."



The epilogue mentioned Alistair as my true love and not as king...



Odd.

[Chasedanger]

Yeah I beat the game as a female dalish elf, chose Anora to be queen and had Alistair using conversations saying how the soldiers are looking at him and he knows what they are thinking, that he is "their king". Although I beat the last battle and Anora was queen at the ending. Not sure what this will carry over to Awakenings as it hasn't arrived in the mail. Shale was not present in my ending even though she was in my party through most of the game.



I have worse issues after the latest patch however, including all my weapon skills vanishing on my Rogue who is midway through the game, and also it seems my character will not level up even though his xp bar is maxed. It just sits there. Also getting weird numbers appearing over chars head like 666 all in a row or 8888 etc.

[SlowDanger]

You're definitely not the only one. My Human Noble Import is all messed up. I chose Anora to be queen with my Warden as king but the codex says she was deposed and Alistair made King. She shows up at the coronation but the epilogue says she never remarried. It wouldn't be so bad save for the fact that at the beginning of Awakening on my noble import, Alistair is suddenly king.



Seen lots of these threads\\comments and even made one myself. Strange that this is a surprise to the devs.

[ratsneck00]

Had these same issues at times the one that bugs me the most is Shale not showing up, shes one of the best characters and just magically vanishes at the end unless you have the PC version.



I also agree with SlowDanger, there has been many posts about these problems and its strange that they're just now noticing. :S

[MEMANIAsama]

ratsneck00 wrote...

I also agree with SlowDanger, there has been many posts about these problems and its strange that they're just now noticing. :S

If anybody can find the topics and post links to them in here, it'll show this is less than an isolated incident and perhaps help them figure it out.

[contown]

I had the bug where you marry Anora and Alistair kills Loghain. I was pissed. The glitches completely ruined the ending!

[contown]

So, Mr. Lang, will we be seeing a fix for the ending glitches anytime soon? Because the ending is, obviously, the biggest scene in the game, and when people start dissapearing, or referencing things that never happened, or talking through someone else's body, it's a real buzz-kill. =(

[Carpes Diems]

they should had never released this product without proper testing.....i even wonder if the game was tested before launching.

[MEMANIAsama]

contown wrote...

So, Mr. Lang, will we be seeing a fix for the ending glitches anytime soon? Because the ending is, obviously, the biggest scene in the game, and when people start dissapearing, or referencing things that never happened, or talking through someone else's body, it's a real buzz-kill. =(

I'd like to hope this is somewhere on the top of their list.

As for complaints about testing. I think we all need to realize this is a multi-path game, and there's probably "debug mode" or something they can use to test out various scenes and such. But, somewhere, a 0 doesn't turn into 1 or whatever and all of a sudden Alistair is king. Even though I'm sure they debugged and tested the scene where Alistair isn't king, and it works fine, some variable somewhere isn't properly triggered.

I don't think they have people sitting down and playing through a 50+ hour RPG multiple times a day.

Modifié par MEMANIAsama, 26 mars 2010 - 04:24 .

[ljwaves]

I am just playing through on the Xbox now - I finished the game on mac. And finished with all possible endings. Shale was there on one ending but the others I could click her - but she was all blurred out. When I did the ending with sacrificing Allistar - Anora still asked something like so is Allistar always like that (ie not hardened and goofing) - so I say yes - and she goes on about I hope that does not effect his ability to be King - as if he was alive - I never had the option to say um....he is died remember you were at the funeral ha. So it is not just Xbox that needs a patch to fix the endings - problems happen on other systems too. I am disappointed to hear it is the same on Xbox - I bought the Xbox version so I could play Awakenings - since the Mac version is already abandonware.

[I am Mr. Wilson]

SlowDanger wrote...

You're definitely not the only one. My Human Noble Import is all messed up. I chose Anora to be queen with my Warden as king but the codex says she was deposed and Alistair made King. She shows up at the coronation but the epilogue says she never remarried. It wouldn't be so bad save for the fact that at the beginning of Awakening on my noble import, Alistair is suddenly king.

Seen lots of these threads\\\\comments and even made one myself. Strange that this is a surprise to the devs.

Same exact thing just happened to me on my Human Noble. I tried different decisions and options to make it acknowledge that I was king but no luck.

[sylvianfan]

I had Alistair marry Anora, but let him take the hit at the end. Anora announced his death at the ceremony, but then asks about his behaviour when I speak to her after. Very odd. The end screens then say they ruled together. He must have been a bit smelly by then...

[contown]

Wow, I didn't realize there were so many different glitches...

[contown]

Bump because this problem is really pissing me off.

[jbblue05]

My human male noble is having the same "Allistar is King glitch" When I marry Anora to become king



The only way the codex recognizes my PC as King is If I spare Loghain and have Allistar executed or leave the wardens.



Which is really annoying because I want to be King but don't want Loghain to join the warrdens

[Atomic Space Vixen]

I had no problems in Origins - except that I didn't want Alistair to sacrifice himself, it was supposed to be me (looks like I chose the wrong dialogue, but I'm fine with things like that, it adds to realism when your best intentions don't always work out the way you want).
However, the problem I had was in Awakenings. In the game itself, Anora shows up. So far, so good. She's queen, and while my character will never forgive her, that's as it should be. Then the epilogue stories start. Nice one for Sigrud by the way, I love how ambiguous it was. Anyway, I'm enjoying them, then suddenly mine comes up and... I'm queen? And King Alistair is greeting me with a huge grin? Has my character gone insane? Alistair's dead! Anora's queen!
It's minor, but damn it, it's like reaching the end of a book and finding out for some reason Elizabeth Bennett is suddenly married to Mr. Collins and for no reason in the final paragraph, despite everything else that transpired before.

Modifié par Atomic Space Vixen, 06 avril 2010 - 10:04 .

[Kyitt]

Ooops...wrong forum.
Please ignore.

Modifié par HollowNobody, 03 avril 2010 - 05:26 .

[that girl]

[quote]MEMANIAsama wrote...

[quote]contown wrote...

I don't think they have people sitting down and playing through a 50+ hour RPG multiple times a day.

[/quote]

If they do, I want THAT job.

[Taiko Roshi]

[quote]that girl wrote...

[quote]MEMANIAsama wrote...

[quote]contown wrote...

I don't think they have people sitting down and playing through a 50+ hour RPG multiple times a day.

[/quote]

If they do, I want THAT job.

[/quote]



Most *decent* developers do have staff that do this. Its called Q&A. Back in the day extensive Q&A was done before the game was released. However, from the looks of even the most basic bugs and glitches in this game it seems EA/BW do no Q&A at all. they just shovell the stuff out the door and don't care because people will buy it regardless.

Modifié par Taiko Roshi, 07 avril 2010 - 04:26 .

[Lord Trayus]

Here I thought I was the only one...I don't feel like having Alistair leave when I induct Loghain into the wardens. Neither do I feel like having to fight the arch demon with Loghain...I seem to have a stranger version of the glitch. In public, Anora acknowledges that I'm her consort and when I chose to "continue serving the crown" she says I would be doing alot of that as consort. After the ceremony, I see Alistair in king's armor and Anora standing off to the side. I talked to both of them but when I tried speaking to Anora, she doesn't exactly seem to know we're about to get married o.o Alistair doesn't talk as though he's king though so that's a plus. The epilogues are messed up as it says that I'm chancellor, even though I'm the king, and that Anora never remarries. That part is old news. Now, I'm just wondering what will happen if I start the Awakening with an imported file...

[dolphin1329]

I never even knew Shale was supposed to be in the hall at the end. I've never once seen her there and I've beaten the game 3 or 4 times. The only acknowledgment I get is Wynn saying that they're going to travel together.