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[lazorexplosion]

Strength adds 1 damage and 0.5 attack.

Dexterity adds 0.5 attack and 1 defense.



2 handers don't need much dexterity, just go for tons of strength for damage and attack rating, wear massive armor and crush your enemies. Huge damage and free stuns are great.

[Tyrax Lightning]

Freyz0000 wrote...

I'm lvl 15 and I usually hit for more than 100...66 str, 22 dex, etc after armor bonuses. I do miss a lot though, which is kinda annoying. I was under the impression that str alters hit chance and thats a lot of str...why do I still often miss? Is it b\\\\c the other NPC dodges rather than I just missing?

This is an interesting point. Does anyone happen to know if dex has any effect on piercing enemy evade? It would be optimum to not need dex for 2H power, but if dex is the only way to avoid getting out-dodged, our options might be stuck, then how is 2H ever gonna compete with dual wield?  My favorite weapon is the double bladed 2H Axe, so I REALLY don't want my favorite weapon being forced to be gimp. I get sick & tired of games forcing my favorite weapon choice to be gimp!  Seriously!

[Foofer]

*sighs*.. So with my two handed weapons I get an ability that lets me score a critical hit. Great, auto critical, not bad.. 4th tier ability, but it's okay. But if you dual wield you get an ability that let's you attack three times, score a critical hit with the last strike and both knock opponents down and lower their attack and defense?.. How is that fair?!

[Chris H. Fleming]

How else do you tank giants?

[Rishavs]

you gimped your stats. dex is the 2nd most important stats for 2 handers. you need str:dex in 4:3 ratio. ie. if 40 str then 30 dex. less dex means your two hander is mostly useless.

[BonafideSeraphim]

No it doesn't...

Again, you get .5 Attack per point of Strength and .5 Attack per point of Dexterity. You're much better served by putting those points into Strength if you're not worried about dying quickly. You get the damage bonus from strength and the exact same attack bonus you'd get from dexterity.

Attributes could've been handled better in-game. For instance, Cunning isn't very useful at all in an optimized build. Lethality should've used your dexterity bonus instead of your cunning bonus as well. As it stands, it's best to have strength as your highest attribute for a damage dealing rogue as well. Dexterity should still be high for the talents, but strength is better for raw damage potential.

EDIT: The last bit is referencing rogues.

Modifié par BonafideSeraphim, 11 novembre 2009 - 09:59 .

[soteria]

How would needing dexterity gimp a 2h build relative to a DW build? They already need 36, plus strength to do damage same as a 2h build.

[BonafideSeraphim]

soteria wrote...

How would needing dexterity gimp a 2h build relative to a DW build? They already need 36, plus strength to do damage same as a 2h build.

Is this in reference to me? Because I didn't say that 2h build was gimped in comparison to a DW build(though a DW rogue does have better talents for raw damage potential).

[prmsntrcrps]

ok imma say this one more time:



STRENGHT GIVES AS MUCH HIT CHANCE AS DEX THERE IS NO NEED TO PUT A SINGLE POINT IN DEX FOR 2H HITCHANCE

[Rishavs]

i disagree with your first point and agree with second. imo, dex is the 2nd most important stat for any melee damage dealer, the first being str. a pure str fighter will always lose to one with healthy dex stat. pure damage value isn't the only factor that goes in the calculation. dex also handle the hit/miss chance and for higher lvl mobs you need high dex. I have tried sten with high str no dex build and he isn't that good. but when i started pumping in dex as well, his damage improved by a large extent.

cunn/lethality build is rather weak, though.

[Rishavs]

prmsntrcrps wrote...

ok imma say this one more time:

STRENGHT GIVES AS MUCH HIT CHANCE AS DEX THERE IS NO NEED TO PUT A SINGLE POINT IN DEX FOR 2H HITCHANCE

errr... can you point me to any official document. coz if you are correct then my builds are horribly wrong. thanks.

[InstantCoffee]

Rishavs wrote...

prmsntrcrps wrote...

ok imma say this one more time:

STRENGHT GIVES AS MUCH HIT CHANCE AS DEX THERE IS NO NEED TO PUT A SINGLE POINT IN DEX FOR 2H HITCHANCE

errr... can you point me to any official document. coz if you are correct then my builds are horribly wrong. thanks.

Check here: http://dragonage.gul....php/attributes

(most accurate info you can get today)

[Foofer]

You can just hover over Strength in your character sheet and it will tell you exactly what it does. It says it adds .5 attack for every point in it.

[Timium Meister]

I am using a 2-hand sword . I loaded most attributes into strength ,but little to none to dexerity, now i can hit 150-200 on average, and can max 390 using a special attack.

[Last Darkness]

Strength Warriors



* Increases damage from all weapons except staves.

* Increases attack in melee by 0.5 per each point above 10.

* Increases physical resistance by 0.5 for per each point above 10.







* Prerequisite for most weapon talents and higher-level armor and weapons.

* Increases Coercion effectiveness for intimidation.

* Also needed by rogues without Lethality, if intending to engage heavily in combat.



Dexterity Rogues



* Increases melee attack score by 0.5 per each point above 10.

* Increases ranged combat score by 1.0 per each point above 10.

* Increases damage from piercing weapons (per weapon-specific attribute modifiers).

* Increases defense by 1 per each point above 10.

* Increases physical resistance by 0.5 per each point above 10.







* Prerequisite for some weapon talents.

* Prerequisite for some shield talents.

* Very helpful for ranged attackers and many warriors.

[Last Darkness]

Its best with permanete stat increases from the Fade and Gear to have Str at 42, and almost everything else in Dex. This allows you to equip the best gear in the game while maintaining some very nice bonsues. Namly dex increases defense on a 1 for 1 ratio. Spec take Berserker and make sure to get berserking and I would suggest champion as a secondary if you dont have it on another character for boosts. Also make sure your mage has Haste. Haste+berserking helps a ton on that attack speed. Champion abilitys let you boost almost all your stats and have a aoe knock down. I found Two hand does bets when taking advantage of disabled foes. Warrior tree wise Powerful, threaten and bravery are the only things you need. As always though wear a complementing suit of armor and the best two hand you can find. I suggest Starfang if you have DLC, or the Chasind Great Maul.

Side Note: Two hand fineshing moves are the most impressive ones ive seen so far.

[Excalibut_2102]

As a 2h warrior at level 17 I do alot of damage, though I cant compare it to DW. I use sunder arms and sunder armour alot, as they actually hit twice, I hit often, and pumped virtually all points into str, with willpower as a secondary. He holds his own.



At the end of the day the game isnt online multiplayer so you dont have to compete with other players/use cookie cutter builds to keep up. Not saying this is an excuse for game inbalance, but from what ive played so far 2h is perfectly viable, so play it if you want.

[L0n3w0lf1971]

only downside are the weapons for a 2H warrior theres only 2 good swords starfang (3 rune slots)and yusaris (2 rune slots)

[RangerSG]

Rishavs wrote...

prmsntrcrps wrote...

ok imma say this one more time:

STRENGHT GIVES AS MUCH HIT CHANCE AS DEX THERE IS NO NEED TO PUT A SINGLE POINT IN DEX FOR 2H HITCHANCE

errr... can you point me to any official document. coz if you are correct then my builds are horribly wrong. thanks.

It's in the game manual. It's also on on the wiki. prms' is right. Dex adds nothing to a 2h build Str doesn't--except defense. I won't say it "gimps" a build to add dex, because not getting hit it always nice. But it doesn't do anything--AT ALL--offensively that Str didn't already do.

[RangerSG]

L0n3w0lf1971 wrote...

only downside are the weapons for a 2H warrior theres only 2 good swords starfang (3 rune slots)and yusaris (2 rune slots)

Ahem, not true. I can think of 3 others, then we get into mauls, which are good for golems and other heavily armored foes.

[L0n3w0lf1971]

i know there are others but i feel those 2 swords are the best of them

[Marbazoid]

Lots of misinformation in this thread. As a Two-handed focused warrior you should be putting ALL your points in Strength, and if you feel you need more stamina for talents, pumping Willpower to 20 is perfectly acceptable.



As has been stated in the above posts, the only difference between Dexterity and Strength is that Dexterity increases your defense and Strength increases your damage. (For a Two-handed Warrior)

[Loc'n'lol]

And another thread from the game release raised from the dead...

[Cuthlan]

Last Darkness wrote...

Its best with permanete stat increases from the Fade and Gear to have Str at 42, and almost everything else in Dex. This allows you to equip the best gear in the game while maintaining some very nice bonsues. Namly dex increases defense on a 1 for 1 ratio. Spec take Berserker and make sure to get berserking and I would suggest champion as a secondary if you dont have it on another character for boosts. Also make sure your mage has Haste. Haste+berserking helps a ton on that attack speed. Champion abilitys let you boost almost all your stats and have a aoe knock down. I found Two hand does bets when taking advantage of disabled foes. Warrior tree wise Powerful, threaten and bravery are the only things you need. As always though wear a complementing suit of armor and the best two hand you can find. I suggest Starfang if you have DLC, or the Chasind Great Maul.
Side Note: Two hand fineshing moves are the most impressive ones ive seen so far.

On a 2h warrior??

That is terrible advice. You're not gaining any accuracy that way, but trading damage for defense. If you are going that route, I assume you are trying to tank for your group rather than deal damage... in which cause why are you taking Berserker? It is all about damage dealing.

[Cuthlan]

_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...

And another thread from the game release raised from the dead...

This forum is terrible for that, isn't it?