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[Archereon]

Seeing as awakenings pretty much wipes the slate clean of all your Origins character's decisions (excluding a single 2 minute Cameo) , and doesn't even keep the Origin's decisions log, its pretty safe to say that DA2 will draw from a canonized ending, and be set maybe 20-30 or so years later, when most of the Warden's minor decisions will have lost significance, the Warden, Alistair, and Loghain would have died, and any other variable characters won't need to even have cameos.

After seeing the storyline disaster the attempt to carry over decisions created called Mass Effect 2 (A great game, but one not praised for its plot), I'm not particularly angry about this inevitability.

[Shipwr3K]

you also get an epilogue referral.



I could careless if it carries over tho.

[Ghrelt]

Yep. I figure you play Morrigan's child in the sequel. Or s/he is the ultimate bad guy.

[Venatio]

Its possible that you can import your character and that he will be as old as Duncan was, maybe even have to struggle with the Calling. Though that would probably be for only the beginning of the game then you get killed off once and for all.

[Archereon]

Ellythe: Or the child is going to be a party member, seeing as that negates the issue of Morrigan's child's race without Bioware having to come up with an excuse as to why the PC can play a nonhuman character. (which admittedly is pretty easy, just say the magic involved in the ritual blah blah blah and most people won't get overly upset on it.)

[Venatio]

Archereon wrote...

Ellythe: Or the child is going to be a party member, seeing as that negates the issue of Morrigan's child's race without Bioware having to come up with an excuse as to why the PC can play a nonhuman character. (which admittedly is pretty easy, just say the magic involved in the ritual blah blah blah and most people won't get overly upset on it.)

The Elf is easy enough, as all Elven and Human (sorry, "shemlen") couplings result in a human child, well human looking anyhow. The Dwarf part might be harder to paint over, as there are half dwarves in DAO - atleast so it says in the wiki.

Modifié par Venatio, 18 mars 2010 - 03:32 .

[Daveastation]

Ellythe wrote...

Yep. I figure you play Morrigan's child in the sequel. Or s/he is the ultimate bad guy.

I would love this.

[Dansayshi]

Play as an Arch demon destroying Orlais.

Seriously, iv never seen a game were you could play as the bad guy destroying the world.

In all honesty tho, I hope they dont put an import function in, and instead just mention the slaying of the arch demon in ferelden by grey wardens. I just dont like these crap cameos. All my actions from origins were summed up in about a minute.

Modifié par Dansayshi, 18 mars 2010 - 04:02 .

[Archereon]

Venatio: Yes, I know that, but if the character is the PC, then there's a potential problem. Of course they could just canonize Alistair doing the DR, which opens up the opportunity for a Mordred esque situation.

[Venatio]

I hope it doesnt turn into a rendition of Beowulf (2007) where we as the father (or strangely connected semi-mother) have to deal with the consequences of one night long past.



If they could simulate the flight scene however that would be epic!

[SirOccam]

This thread makes me depressed. Such an amazing start to peter out so weakly. I really hope our Wardens aren't just doing random quests and killing darkspawn here and there until DA2 at which point they're dead.



I wanna go out with a bang, not a whimper.

[Archereon]

Venatio: Don't ever bring THAT abomination up. Ever.



But if the child is a protagonist (PC or party member), then the consequences are good.

[Booglarize]

 I propose an alternative: DA2 retcons Awakening out of the picture entirely, and allows you to import the same save game you had after you beat Origins - as if the whole brouhaha in the expansion never happened. 

I know, the chances of this actually happening are fairly remote, but consider the evidence - we've already seen with the handling of the Ultimate Sacrifice ending that strict story continuity isn't really the highest priority here. And to be honest - if it came down to it, I for one would have no trouble "handwaving" Awakening in its entirety.

Modifié par Booglarize, 18 mars 2010 - 04:19 .

[Archereon]

Booglarize: Probably not going to happen, and more sequel friendly to just make a canon. Seeing as Dragon Age 2 will be dropping in February 2011, meaning its likely has only minimal engine modifications, a hand wave canon cuts down on the number of storyline considerations.

[Noir201]

Half expecting DA 2 to be set in a different time, in past or new generation, as a example, new human noble story, you're the son/daughter of the king/queen of denerim (depending on you're save game who you picked) that way, will give notice to what you did in origins and see char's but older.



Ofc thats what i would like to see but have to wait and find out.

[Venatio]

Noir201 wrote...

Half expecting DA 2 to be set in a different time, in past or new generation, as a example, new human noble story, you're the son/daughter of the king/queen of denerim (depending on you're save game who you picked) that way, will give notice to what you did in origins and see char's but older.

Ofc thats what i would like to see but have to wait and find out.

Interesting, you mean that on the side of the Origins they will likely have in DAO 2 you believe that they should have bonus Origins connected with your previuos games, like a dwarf scion of the Paragon house a dwarf payer would have founded, vice versa for a human noble, or the descendant of a Dalish player in his tribe. It would be something to consider.

Modifié par Venatio, 18 mars 2010 - 04:19 .

[Booglarize]

 Archereon -

Yeah, I don't actually expect that to happen. Just thinking aloud about ways in which the promising beginning we had in Origins could be salvaged after the disaster (in story terms, at least) that was Awakening.

Modifié par Booglarize, 18 mars 2010 - 04:22 .

[Archereon]

Booglarize: Awakenings wasn't that bad compared to Mass Effect 2...

[Booglarize]

Archereon wrote...

Booglarize: Awakenings wasn't that bad compared to Mass Effect 2...

Interesting. On what specific counts do you think Awakening actually did better than Mass Effect 2?

[Patriciachr34]

I don't agree with the OP on this one. I think Awakenings is simply setting the stage for DA2. The game isn't meant to be a finale. It's the next step of the story, kind of like a prologue. I think the real action will happen in February 2011. That's probably when everything will truly come together.

[SnakeHelah]

Patriciachr34 wrote...

I don't agree with the OP on this one. I think Awakenings is simply setting the stage for DA2. The game isn't meant to be a finale. It's the next step of the story, kind of like a prologue. I think the real action will happen in February 2011. That's probably when everything will truly come together.

Actually, The epilogue CLEARLY says "years after" , this is dissapointing, in my opinion because that means that we won't likely play our own Warden. 
It just doesn't fit in logicaly, the epilogue said that years passed, which means that the Warden will be much older, just how much time passed in DAO? about 3-5 years, I think summed up our Warden won't have much left, well not enough for a whole trilogy anyway.

[Behindyounow]

Ellythe wrote...

Yep. I figure you play Morrigan's child in the sequel. Or s/he is the ultimate bad guy.

No. That means not being able to choose your race.

Also, a lot of people hate Morrigan and didn't take the Dark ritual option (myself included). Making that choice canon would be like a punch in the face.

[Bratt1204]

Patriciachr34 wrote...

I don't agree with the OP on this one. I think Awakenings is simply setting the stage for DA2. The game isn't meant to be a finale. It's the next step of the story, kind of like a prologue. I think the real action will happen in February 2011. That's probably when everything will truly come together.

I do hope this is the case.

[Bratt1204]

SnakeHelah wrote...

Patriciachr34 wrote...

I don't agree with the OP on this one. I think Awakenings is simply setting the stage for DA2. The game isn't meant to be a finale. It's the next step of the story, kind of like a prologue. I think the real action will happen in February 2011. That's probably when everything will truly come together.

Actually, The epilogue CLEARLY says "years after" , this is dissapointing, in my opinion because that means that we won't likely play our own Warden. 
It just doesn't fit in logicaly, the epilogue said that years passed, which means that the Warden will be much older, just how much time passed in DAO? about 3-5 years, I think summed up our Warden won't have much left, well not enough for a whole trilogy anyway.

But the Origins Epilogue also made many references to what happened years later. That does not necessarily mean a sequel must be set many years later, just wishful thinking of course.

[Dansayshi]

A prologue for what?