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Victor Wachter

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If you are encountering an invisible wall that will not allow you to progress to a new area, we'd like to gather more information on this issue. Here's what we would like to ask:

1) Upload a screenshot of yourself, including the minimap standing right in front of the wall.
2) Describe what quest you are on and what objectives you have already completed.
3) Describe the immediate area around you, so we can locate it ourselves if we try to reproduce your issue.

A second part to this request: If you see a poster describe a barrier that you have gotten past, please suggest steps that you took that allowed you to pass.

Thanks!

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CybAnt1

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I believe I know what created the one I ran into:



ADVANCED TACTICS MOD. DO NOT RUN THIS IN AWAKENINGS. IT'S BROKEN.



It created the wall I ran into ... re-entered area with it disabled and the invisawall was no longer there.



SECOND PROBLEM: your characters won't gain any new A-specific abilities in their scripts until you turn it off.



DISABLE IT IN AWAKENINGS, IT'S BROKEN.




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sarx8172

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http://img42.imagesh...0031817453.jpg/
http://img697.images...0031817415.jpg/

Screenshots located right next to the invisible wall in Kal'Hirol.

Quest Location: http://img35.imagesh...10031817481.jpg

It's right at the beginning of the lower reaches, right after turning the corner upon entering the area.

Modifié par sarx8172, 19 mars 2010 - 12:51 .


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I was stuck at the exact same place as sarx8172. So I skipped that quest and went to the Blackmarsh and was also stuck there when you enter the fade and get to the crypt.

I can also say that uninstalling the Advanced Tactics mod fixed this for me. Thanks CybAnt1.

EDIT - Uninstalling advanted tactics fixed it at the crypt but not at the lower reaches.

Modifié par Seth457, 19 mars 2010 - 08:22 .


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I just ran into my first invisible wall in the Wending Wood, after the fight with the summoned Sylvans and wolves (no spoilers etc.).  This is the first main quest location I've begun, but I have been to Amaranthine and done all available side-quests available upon leaving Vigil's Keep for the first time.  Note: I have no mods installed at all.

http://img444.images...10032011173.jpg

EDIT:  Must have been an anomaly, because reloading a save fixed it.  I wonder if it's the case that the designers chose to stick invisible walls in place to keep enemies from running away during fights, but they aren't being removed properly all the time?

Modifié par searanox, 20 mars 2010 - 03:28 .


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sarx8172

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I figured out how to bypass the save at the Lower Reaches, but it may involve making a new character...it did for me.



Basically, Advanced Tactics mod is at the core of most of these invisible wall problems. When the Lower Reaches area was generated with the mod active, it created an invisible wall. However, when I created a new character and entered the same area without Advanced Tactics on, the wall was not there. So if you're encountering the invisible wall, turn off Advanced Tactics, and hopefully you have a previous save available that did not enter that area. Otherwise, you'll have to make a new character like I did.



Hope that helps some of you.

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KigenBarzhad

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sarx8172 wrote...

I figured out how to bypass the save at the Lower Reaches, but it may involve making a new character...it did for me.

Basically, Advanced Tactics mod is at the core of most of these invisible wall problems. When the Lower Reaches area was generated with the mod active, it created an invisible wall. However, when I created a new character and entered the same area without Advanced Tactics on, the wall was not there. So if you're encountering the invisible wall, turn off Advanced Tactics, and hopefully you have a previous save available that did not enter that area. Otherwise, you'll have to make a new character like I did.

Hope that helps some of you.


Same thing happened to me while I was in the fade. I was lucky that I had a previous save.

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Olduwan

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The author of Advanced Tactics created a fix. I'm using it now and it works. I was stuck at the shadowy crypt and now with the fix, am not.



http://dragonagenexu...file.php?id=852

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stuck ... after completing the urn of andraste's quest.... after triggering the cutscene with genitivi ,there is a door behind genitivi with an invisible wall ,which toggles back to the world map clicking the doorway doesnt trigger the world map toggle...I cant return to redcliff castle to speak with teagan. I found sort of a temporary work around.. by using the console command "runscript zz_jump_around" entering the command until I can jump to the area behind the wall...hope this helps :(

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This is caused by the advanced tactics 3.0 mod, and not the vanilla game I'm pretty sure. The linked fix above gets rid of them.

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sarx8172

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Olduwan wrote...

The author of Advanced Tactics created a fix. I'm using it now and it works. I was stuck at the shadowy crypt and now with the fix, am not.

http://dragonagenexu...file.php?id=852


Tested this on the other character stuck at the invisible wall, and it worked! Use one of the files containing the script, and it works like a charm. Thanks for the find! 

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secUnd3r

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those that are stuck behind walls, the console command "runscript zz_jump_forward" may be better to use than jump around, it puts you 3 feet in front of where you were, which puts you through the invisible object every time.

Modifié par secUnd3r, 30 mars 2010 - 12:52 .


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Knal1991

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The Exit out of Kar Hirol, contains an invisible wall If you have not yet unlocked the exit yet, nothing major except for the fact that you can walk up to two feet in the air...



I made a screenshot, but the buggy game did not recognise it so there you have it >_>

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there's a LOT more bugs then invisible walls..how about a word on "collecting info" for them? like oh..I dunno..the CONTINUOUS ****ING CRASHES since that **** patch 1.3

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sarx8172

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Suron wrote...

there's a LOT more bugs then invisible walls..how about a word on "collecting info" for them? like oh..I dunno..the CONTINUOUS ****ING CRASHES since that **** patch 1.3


They probably haven't made a thread dedicated to collecting info on the crashes from patch 1.03/Awakening because of the sheer number of different threads that already to exactly that. (http://social.biowar...8/index/1765654 - 18 pages worth of posts, a lot of which have to do with crashes. I'd say that's plenty of info)

What you're actually complaining about is their apparent lack of action on fixing said bugs. You have to realize that the game is on three different consoles, all of which have their own problems, not to mention that the crashes tend to be for many different reasons, especially on the PC where hardwhere and its infinite combinations make a huge difference. Someone is at fault though, for the early release of patch 1.03/Awakening, because the sheer number of bugs being reported by the community simply isn't excusable.

So before you start flaming me, I essentially agree with you. However, I do disagree with your manner of trying to communicate with Bioware...if they don't really reply to people who stay calm about the situation, what makes you think they're going to communicate with people screaming and cussing at them? Just calm down, and be patient. If you can't be patient, there are lots of good games out there for you to play. No one's forcing you to play the bug-ridden ones.

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searanox wrote...

I just ran into my first invisible wall in the Wending Wood, after the fight with the summoned Sylvans and wolves (no spoilers etc.).  This is the first main quest location I've begun, but I have been to Amaranthine and done all available side-quests available upon leaving Vigil's Keep for the first time.  Note: I have no mods installed at all.

http://img444.images...10032011173.jpg

EDIT:  Must have been an anomaly, because reloading a save fixed it.  I wonder if it's the case that the designers chose to stick invisible walls in place to keep enemies from running away during fights, but they aren't being removed properly all the time?


I got that one as well, it disapeared once i killed 2 remaining wolves not far behind. I suppose that wall stay there till you kill everything that is spawn after the cinematic

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searanox wrote...

I just ran into my first invisible wall in the Wending Wood, after the fight with the summoned Sylvans and wolves (no spoilers etc.).  This is the first main quest location I've begun, but I have been to Amaranthine and done all available side-quests available upon leaving Vigil's Keep for the first time.  Note: I have no mods installed at all.

http://img444.images...10032011173.jpg

EDIT:  Must have been an anomaly, because reloading a save fixed it.  I wonder if it's the case that the designers chose to stick invisible walls in place to keep enemies from running away during fights, but they aren't being removed properly all the time?


I was going to report this same invisible wall. What I found out was that there were two more blight wolves alive, behind me - that had somehow not "entered the fray". I was not in "combat mode" either when encountering the "wall". Going back and killing the wolves allowed me to walk up that path.

EDIT: Heh, didn't read the post directly above mine. Anyway, consider this "confirmed". This is on PC btw.

Modifié par Hurra_asbest, 06 avril 2010 - 05:57 .


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 I had a major problem with the Wending Wood invisible wall. I tried checking for missed enemies, uninstalling, updating and reinstalling my mods, the Advanced Tactics "remove objects" console command, and a half dozen other things I won't go into.

I finally got past it by using the Wending Wood Debug console "runscript zz_trp_debug" selected "Jump to a Plot" and "Confrontation with Velanna"

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How I create a new character or reload screenshots or uninstalling advanced Tactics in Shadowy Crypt and how to adjust it.Please explain it to me because i cannot go any further because of invisible wall and help me.