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[ObserverStatus]

Shandepared wrote ...and yet they still don't understand why the quarians tried to deactivate them. So at most they're about as dumb as most of the people on this forum.Not exactly inspiring.

They don't  understand why the quarians tried to deactivate them? Interesting exactly where did you find that.  Either way, they did not need to understand tthe Quarians' motivations to understand that they were a threat.

[ObserverStatus]

Shandepared wrote...

Kileyan wrote...

Geesh how did a Renegade discussion turn into a Geth hugfest.

Suit-wetting geth apologists infest this forum.

Are you roleplaying as a quarian, or are you just a troll?  This is becoming less of a debate and more of a personal flame fight.

Modifié par bobobo878, 19 mars 2010 - 05:45 .

[enormousmoonboots]

Troll. He shows up in morality discussions and yells at anyone who dares play Paragon. In the middle of a Cerberus discussion thread, he popped up with something along the lines of "Only filthy liberals don't give TIM the base" and went on to say stuff like 'science has always been mass murdering in the name of advancement, you soft-hearted liberals just can't deal with that' and 'there was no Native American genocide'.



So...yeah, troll.

[Weiser_Cain]

I try to be nice but by the end I end up being evil on the balance.

[Mcjon01]

Shandepared wrote...
Suit-wetting geth apologists infest this forum.

Suit-wetting is an integral part of Quarian culture.  How dare you belittle it.

[ObserverStatus]

Never understood the whole suit wetter thing, Quarians are supposed to store there waste in bladders between the inner and outer layers of their suit, so they could only "wet" it by puncturing the waste bladders.

[Desertborn]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

I couldn't be a dick to any of my crew members even if my life depended on it.

Everyone else is pretty much fair game.


EDIT:  Adding to this, for some reason I'm completely incapable of being anything but benevolent to Quarians.  Why are they so damn likable?!

No Joke, I could abuse and randomly execute to my heart's content, but I couldn't force myself to even shout at those damn Quarians.

[Strange Aeons]

I'll use the renegade options when some blatant jerkass is trying to intimidate me or push me around.



For the most part, though, I play paragon (and almost always with regard to my party members). I enjoy the feeling of going through these sorts of games as a hero, helping people and leaving everywhere I go better than it was when I found it.



I guess I can understand the point of view of playing the "other side" just to see the content. For myself, though, I don't have any more desire to act like an abusive jerk in these games than I do in real life. I remember I tried to do a dark side playthrough of KotR, and I literally couldn't get past the first city...it just made me sick. ME is less black and white, but it still turns my stomach to be gratuitously mean to characters who don't deserve it.



Your mileage may vary, of course

[Desertborn]

Shandepared wrote...

Desertborn wrote...


No Joke, I could abuse and randomly execute to my heart's content, but I couldn't force myself to even shout at those damn Quarians.

At who, the Admirals? I sure as hell had no problem shouted at them. Not only did they try to ruin my friends' life for the sake of their politics, but they also invited me to the Migrant Fleet with the belief that I'd be throwing my life away making a suicide run on one of their ships. I get enough of that crap from TIM.

I stand (or sit rather) corrected, I could shout at the admirals, but poor Veetor and Lia'vael left me with a soft spot for plight of Quarians everywhere...

[thegreateski]

Bleh . . .friggin Quarians.



I get the feeling they don't believe me about the Reapers either.





Maybe my Shepard is going insane?

[thegreateski]

Ah . . . the wonders of different dialouge trees.

[marshalleck]

Shandepared wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

Bleh . . .friggin Quarians.

I get the feeling they don't believe me about the Reapers either.


Maybe my Shepard is going insane?

Really? I got the opposite impression. The one Admiral acknowledges that the fleet will be useless against the Reapers unless they have someplace to shelter their civilians. Also the quarians know, at the very least, that Sovereign was not a geth creation.

The quarians are convinced the Reapers are real. The Idenna was dispatched not only to search for a habitable world but to also see if a Reaper could be found and used to take control of the geth, and by extension Rannoch. It's in the second ME book.

[Revan312]

Shandepared wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

The quarians are convinced the Reapers are real. The Idenna was dispatched not only to search for a habitable world but to also see if a Reaper could be found and used to take control of the geth, and by extension Rannoch. It's in the second ME book.

Yes, though that doesn't mean they feel the Reapers are an immediate threat. Frankly, were this not a fictional series, I wouldn't be immediately worried about them either. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't deny it like the Council (not in private at least), but I wouldn't be in a panic. Realistically for all anybody knows it could be another 50,000 years before the rest of the Reapers even realize anything is wrong.

I have to agree, in fact, this brings up another question, if not by the citadel mass relay, then how are the Reapers gonna get into the galaxy, conventional drives?  If that's the case then ya, it's gonna be a while.  I laughed at the ending, when it showed the entire Reaper fleet.  I thought to myself "ah, so they decided 'might as well start now, it's gonna be a loooong trip'"

I think it would be funny if they pulled a fast one and just had ME3 start with "1,234 years later" with an all new cast.

[Weiser_Cain]

We can't beat the Reapers in a straight up fight.

[KarmaTheAlligator]

Revan312 wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

The quarians are convinced the Reapers are real. The Idenna was dispatched not only to search for a habitable world but to also see if a Reaper could be found and used to take control of the geth, and by extension Rannoch. It's in the second ME book.

Yes, though that doesn't mean they feel the Reapers are an immediate threat. Frankly, were this not a fictional series, I wouldn't be immediately worried about them either. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't deny it like the Council (not in private at least), but I wouldn't be in a panic. Realistically for all anybody knows it could be another 50,000 years before the rest of the Reapers even realize anything is wrong.

I have to agree, in fact, this brings up another question, if not by the citadel mass relay, then how are the Reapers gonna get into the galaxy, conventional drives?  If that's the case then ya, it's gonna be a while.  I laughed at the ending, when it showed the entire Reaper fleet.  I thought to myself "ah, so they decided 'might as well start now, it's gonna be a loooong trip'"

I think it would be funny if they pulled a fast one and just had ME3 start with "1,234 years later" with an all new cast.

They'll probably come by another forgotten or unmapped mass relay next to the galaxy core.

[Mcjon01]

Revan312 wrote...

I have to agree, in fact, this brings up another question, if not by the citadel mass relay, then how are the Reapers gonna get into the galaxy, conventional drives?  If that's the case then ya, it's gonna be a while.  I laughed at the ending, when it showed the entire Reaper fleet.  I thought to myself "ah, so they decided 'might as well start now, it's gonna be a loooong trip'"

I think it would be funny if they pulled a fast one and just had ME3 start with "1,234 years later" with an all new cast.

I'm sure the Reapers' standard FTL drives are still leagues above anything the other species have access to.  All they have to do is reach one of the relays in a system near the outer rim and spread out from there.  It'll still probably take them a while, and they won't have the massive advantage of having census data on every species and sole access to the relay network, but it's not like it's totally infeasible.

[apk117]

paragade 4 lyfe

[nevarran]

It was the same for me. But who's saying that you must use every renegade option.
Being always bad will make you go from bad-ass to complete-ass.

Revan312 wrote...

I have to agree, in fact, this brings up
another question, if not by the citadel mass relay, then how are the
Reapers gonna get into the galaxy, conventional drives? 

I belive Haestrom's sun (the mission where you are saving Tali) will have something to do with the Reapers' return.

Modifié par nevarran, 19 mars 2010 - 04:21 .

[kariod]

remote_control_me wrote...

i blame
the damned loyality missions!

The loyalty missions
are definitely a major cause for my difficulty in going renegade on my
crew. More character development and backstory means greater chance to
relate and empathize with them. That and I'm a bit of a pansy.

nevarran wrote...
I belive Haestrom's sun (the mission where you are saving Tali) will have something to do with the Reapers' return.

My guess was that the Reapers are likely drawing energy from the sun to sustain themselves for millenia in dark space, but it also seems possible that they are actually using dark energy to manipulate the star and turn it into what would essentially be a natural mass relay.