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[colossus50000]

I have been wondering lately what Mass Effect 3 will look like and the thought of crew members popped into my head. I began to look at the people we have from Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2. If we get the crew from ME1 and ME2 together on one ship that will be a total of 15 possible squadmates if all survived of course.

1. Ashley or Kaiden
2. Garrus
3. Tali
4. Wrex
5. Liara
6. Miranda
7. Jacob
8. Mordin
9. Grunt
10. Jack
11. Thane
12. Zaeed
13. Samara or Morinth
14. Katsumi
15. Legion

My questions are, do you think we will get more squadmates? Do you think we need more squadmates? and what kind of squadmate would you want if you wanted another?

[JeanLuc761]

Do I think we'll get more squadmates?  I honestly have no idea; nothing's come up to convince me in any direction with that.  But do we need more squadmates?  No.

I subscribe to this train of thought:  We have 15 very capable and wonderful squadmates as potential for Mass Effect 3.  Most if not all of them have spawned massive fan-bases (Tali especially) and people have grown to really care for them. 
Mass Effect 2 was centered on building the "brightest; the toughest; the deadliest allies we can find."  For Mass Effect 3 to get rid of them, then they're essentially doing three things:
1) Turning the suicide mission into a complete and utter gimmick when it comes to series continuity and choice impact.
2) Forcing the writers to come up with some contrived reason why "the best and the brightest" aren't good enough to join you in the final battle.
3) Pissing off tens of thousands (even hundreds of thousands) of fans.


No matter how you slice it, it's not a great decision IMO

[colossus50000]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Do I think we'll get more squadmates?  I honestly have no idea; nothing's come up to convince me in any direction with that.  But do we need more squadmates?  No.

I subscribe to this train of thought:  We have 15 very capable and wonderful squadmates as potential for Mass Effect 3.  Most if not all of them have spawned massive fan-bases (Tali especially) and people have grown to really care for them. 
Mass Effect 2 was centered on building the "brightest; the toughest; the deadliest allies we can find."  For Mass Effect 3 to get rid of them, then they're essentially doing three things:
1) Turning the suicide mission into a complete and utter gimmick when it comes to series continuity and choice impact.
2) Forcing the writers to come up with some contrived reason why "the best and the brightest" aren't good enough to join you in the final battle.
3) Pissing off tens of thousands (even hundreds of thousands) of fans.


No matter how you slice it, it's not a great decision IMO

I agree with this completely

[Ray Joel Oh]

Yeah I could do without adding any more squadmates. Budgets bigger roles for the squadmates we already have.

[Occams Razor 17]

colossus50000 wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Do I think we'll get more squadmates?  I honestly have no idea; nothing's come up to convince me in any direction with that.  But do we need more squadmates?  No.

I subscribe to this train of thought:  We have 15 very capable and wonderful squadmates as potential for Mass Effect 3.  Most if not all of them have spawned massive fan-bases (Tali especially) and people have grown to really care for them. 
Mass Effect 2 was centered on building the "brightest; the toughest; the deadliest allies we can find."  For Mass Effect 3 to get rid of them, then they're essentially doing three things:
1) Turning the suicide mission into a complete and utter gimmick when it comes to series continuity and choice impact.
2) Forcing the writers to come up with some contrived reason why "the best and the brightest" aren't good enough to join you in the final battle.
3) Pissing off tens of thousands (even hundreds of thousands) of fans.


No matter how you slice it, it's not a great decision IMO

I agree with this completely

Agreement seconded.

[Xaijin]

I think we'll get a few.

If shepard dies you have:

Kaidan/Ashley
Wrex
Liara
Joker
Kal
Shaira
Urz

so yea, if have the bad ending, you'll need chars, at least 3 or 4

Modifié par Xaijin, 18 mars 2010 - 11:57 .

[colossus50000]

Xaijin wrote...

I think we'll get a few.

If shepard dies you have:

Kaidan/Ashley
Wrex
Liara
Joker

so yea, if have the bad ending, you'll need chars, at least 3 or 4

Shepard dieing isnt a cameo ending from what i know

[Gethforceone]

Occams Razor 17 wrote...

colossus50000 wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Do I think we'll get more squadmates?  I honestly have no idea; nothing's come up to convince me in any direction with that.  But do we need more squadmates?  No.

I subscribe to this train of thought:  We have 15 very capable and wonderful squadmates as potential for Mass Effect 3.  Most if not all of them have spawned massive fan-bases (Tali especially) and people have grown to really care for them. 
Mass Effect 2 was centered on building the "brightest; the toughest; the deadliest allies we can find."  For Mass Effect 3 to get rid of them, then they're essentially doing three things:
1) Turning the suicide mission into a complete and utter gimmick when it comes to series continuity and choice impact.
2) Forcing the writers to come up with some contrived reason why "the best and the brightest" aren't good enough to join you in the final battle.
3) Pissing off tens of thousands (even hundreds of thousands) of fans.


No matter how you slice it, it's not a great decision IMO

I agree with this completely

Agreement seconded.

I third this.

[Xaijin]

Doesn't matter if it's canon or not, until Bioware says so.

[JeanLuc761]

colossus50000 wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

I think we'll get a few.

If shepard dies you have:

Kaidan/Ashley
Wrex
Liara
Joker

so yea, if have the bad ending, you'll need chars, at least 3 or 4

Shepard dieing isnt a cameo ending from what i know

I think you meant "canon" instead of "cameo" but I got what you meant
And it's true; if Shepard is killed on your playthrough then you can't import that game into Mass Effect 3.  Bioware have said this multiple times.

Modifié par JeanLuc761, 18 mars 2010 - 11:59 .

[Lunatic LK47]

Xaijin wrote...

I think we'll get a few.

If shepard dies you have:

Kaidan/Ashley
Wrex
Liara
Joker
Kal
Shaira
Urz

so yea, if have the bad ending, you'll need chars, at least 3 or 4

Wrongo. Shepard dead= No import.

[colossus50000]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

colossus50000 wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

I think we'll get a few.

If shepard dies you have:

Kaidan/Ashley
Wrex
Liara
Joker

so yea, if have the bad ending, you'll need chars, at least 3 or 4

Shepard dieing isnt a cameo ending from what i know

I think you meant "canon" instead of "cameo" but I got what you meant
And it's true; if Shepard is killed on your playthrough then you can't import that game into Mass Effect 3.  Bioware have said this multiple times.

Thank you for correcting me

[Xaijin]

They haven't mentioned it outside the game that I've seen.



The game simply says ".. if you survive."



Speculation does not production venue make.

[Ray Joel Oh]

Xaijin wrote...

I think we'll get a few.

If shepard dies you have:

Kaidan/Ashley
Wrex
Liara
Joker
Kal
Shaira
Urz

so yea, if have the bad ending, you'll need chars, at least 3 or 4

Unless they change the mechanics, at this point you only -need- two other characters.  And if your Shepard survives, you're all but guaranteed to have three previous squadmates.  Ashley/Kaiden, Liara, and whatever squadmate caught you at the end of ME2.

Modifié par Ray Joel Oh, 19 mars 2010 - 12:09 .

[JeanLuc761]

Xaijin wrote...

They haven't mentioned it outside the game that I've seen.

The game simply says ".. if you survive."

Speculation does not production venue make.

Here ya go:  A Dead Shepard Stays Dead

To quote our favorite Commander, "That should be all the evidence you need!"

[Commander_David]

We will get Blasto the first Hanar spectre

[colossus50000]

Commander_David wrote...

We will get Blasto the first Hanar spectre

Highly doubt it

[eternalnightmare13]

I'd rather not see any more new squad mates. Enough is enough. Get to the plot.

Even if you only managed to save two of your squad mates from ME2 they could still bring in Ash/Kaidan, and Wrex. That'd give you four plus Shep and considering you'll probably only be able to take two with you on missions it'll be enough. Replacing dead squad mates with newbs for the finale would see utterly cheap. I have a feeling they'll do it though.

[apotheosic]

i actually doub that ALL of the crew from ME2 will return. the majority, yes, but i can see thane and possibly mordin dead, dependin gon the time lapse between games. Samara/Morinth and Jack (unless you romanced her maybe) i can see going back to their crazy lifestyles. Zaeed and Kasumi i can see also reurning to other work, as they are both free agents funded to help shepard by cerberus. and then of course there will be people who lost a lot of people on the suicide mission. i doubt bioware will want them completely left out.

therefore, i foresee and will tolerate anywhere between 2 and 4 new squad members in ME3.

something bioware could do that i would like is make those squad members only availbale if you need them, like if you lost a lot of crew in ME2, or perhpas conflict could lead to potentially losing squadmates in the early stage of ME3.

[colossus50000]

apotheosic wrote...

i actually doub that ALL of the crew from ME2 will return. the majority, yes, but i can see thane and possibly mordin dead, dependin gon the time lapse between games. Samara/Morinth and Jack (unless you romanced her maybe) i can see going back to their crazy lifestyles. Zaeed and Kasumi i can see also reurning to other work, as they are both free agents funded to help shepard by cerberus. and then of course there will be people who lost a lot of people on the suicide mission. i doubt bioware will want them completely left out.
therefore, i foresee and will tolerate anywhere between 2 and 4 new squad members in ME3.
something bioware could do that i would like is make those squad members only availbale if you need them, like if you lost a lot of crew in ME2, or perhpas conflict could lead to potentially losing squadmates in the early stage of ME3.

I think ME3 will start right where ME2 left off. i hope we keep all squadmates. i could probably only have 1 or 2 maximum new squad mates and they would have to be people we already know like Kal'Reegar or Shiala, thats just off the top of my head.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Heh, my renegade only has Mordin, Morinth, Jacob, and Liara/Kaidan.



I'm pretty damn sure we will be getting new squadmates. Otherwise BioWare is going to have to create all these people as optional squadmates and waste a ton of resources since they're all potentially dead.



Will it make the suicide mission a gimmick? Not really. The suicide mission was one specific mission. These people didn't all sign on for the long haul of the reaper fight. They can have cameos, but these people aren't all going to be squadmates.

[Khayness]

I could use a new Spectre squadmate!

[Mondo47]

Gethforceone wrote...

Occams Razor 17 wrote...

colossus50000 wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Do I think we'll get more squadmates?  I honestly have no idea; nothing's come up to convince me in any direction with that.  But do we need more squadmates?  No.

I subscribe to this train of thought:  We have 15 very capable and wonderful squadmates as potential for Mass Effect 3.  Most if not all of them have spawned massive fan-bases (Tali especially) and people have grown to really care for them. 
Mass Effect 2 was centered on building the "brightest; the toughest; the deadliest allies we can find."  For Mass Effect 3 to get rid of them, then they're essentially doing three things:
1) Turning the suicide mission into a complete and utter gimmick when it comes to series continuity and choice impact.
2) Forcing the writers to come up with some contrived reason why "the best and the brightest" aren't good enough to join you in the final battle.
3) Pissing off tens of thousands (even hundreds of thousands) of fans.


No matter how you slice it, it's not a great decision IMO

I agree with this completely

Agreement seconded.

I third this.

Um... forthed?

[JLocke316]

I hope they add only a couple but as long as we get a my favorites (pretty much everyone in my signature and Legion) I'm happy. There's no doubt in my mind that there will be new squad mates however.

[JeanLuc761]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
Will it make the suicide mission a gimmick? Not really. The suicide mission was one specific mission. These people didn't all sign on for the long haul of the reaper fight. They can have cameos, but these people aren't all going to be squadmates.

Maybe I should explain what I meant by that.  In order for those deaths to really mean something (outside of player emotion), then the absence those characters can and should have a substantial impact on how Mass Effect 3 plays out.  This could ideally be achieved by having a smaller squadmate roster.

By relegating most of those characters to cameos, you're essentially saying that they weren't important enough to the storyline to merit a full-blown squadmate.  That takes a huge toll on the impact of the suicide mission.