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Arks4

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Ok so I created this awesome dwarf dual wielding warrior that seems pretty much unstoppable. I played through the Origins and had some tough spots and died here and there but overall a bit too easy even on nightmare difficulty.

From what I've heard awakening is even easier...


Any suggestions to make more of a challenge? Stop using a mage healer in companion? I do like Anders but the healer combined with my light armor wielding powerhouse is a pretty deadly combination, much to the point of every battle being won without too much thinking, other than "hmm should I use whirlwind or just watch the show".

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Gliese

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Two suggested mods:

http://social.bioware.com/project/667/
http://social.biowar...m/project/1280/

I use both but only the AI improvements of the nightmare plus mod since I don't like all of the other changes in other packages, I'm playing it on hard right now (since that is significantly harder than vanilla nightmare with the simple difficulty increase mod). Might bump it up if it's still too easy.

But actually the best tip I can give you might sound a bit weird but don't read too much tactics and the like on these forums. I've educated myself alot beyond my own trial and error on tactics and strategy and I know of so many ways to exploit the mechanics now from poor AI to overpowered spell combinations that it's become much harder for me to be challenged by the game than it was previously. You have to work at it a bit.

Modifié par Gliese, 19 mars 2010 - 05:54 .


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Arks4

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Thanks for the links. Looks I'll be trying to potion cooldown mod.

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Janni-in-VA

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There's a current challenge on the boards to play without reloading. If your PC dies, you have to restart the game. The thread is here:

http://social.biowar...47/index/264401

It seems to me I'd seen more recent action on this thread than what's indicated by the search engine, which is why it came to my attention.

Modifié par Janni-in-VA, 19 mars 2010 - 03:38 .


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Phonantiphon

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Yeah - install patch 1.03 - that will make considerably more difficult to play...

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thegreateski

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Just want to point out that playing a duel wielding Warrior is pretty much God-mode in this game.

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thegreateski wrote...

Just want to point out that playing a duel wielding Warrior is pretty much God-mode in this game.


Rogue, you mean, right?

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thegreateski

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booke63 wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

Just want to point out that playing a duel wielding Warrior is pretty much God-mode in this game.


Rogue, you mean, right?

Does it matter? They're pretty much the same class.

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thegreateski wrote...

booke63 wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

Just want to point out that playing a duel wielding Warrior is pretty much God-mode in this game.


Rogue, you mean, right?

Does it matter? They're pretty much the same class.

Heh, I'm just kidding around.  A bit bored and stuck so for  a couple more hours. 

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There were times on normal difficulty the game was kicking my ass. You guys are insane.

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k9medusa

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Yeah, what Beaner28 said

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have to def say a duel-wielding warrior with champ,templar and spirit warrior specs in this game is god with massive armor to boot =P....

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k9medusa wrote...

Yeah, what Beaner28 said


I came into DAO with no clear or full understanding of things like:   tank, aggro, DPS, AoE, CC.   Yes I played AD&D in the old days, some video games in the past, the BG series for example, so these ideas are implied in those experiences--except maybe aggro.  But nowadays such ideas and game mechanics are fully codified and you really have to work these aspects to be successful.  So you talk about getting YOUR ass kicked, believe me I know all about about having my ass handed to me, cripes!

So I had a great time learning how to manage combat in this game, and that coupled with the good story and char interaction, I've really enjoyed myself.  By now I'm playing on hard, and I also don't often exploit the AI by pulling or kiting or do I often use of some spells or combos or fully min/max my chars--and finally I wear my ass on my backside most all the time for a change! 

"kiting, pulling, min/max" yet more terms I've learned.  I've not spent much time on forums other then this one either, so I've learned some funny stuff in that way too.  I like this one:  WoT DnR.  Wall of Text Did Not Read--which of course you all already know :)

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k9medusa

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Just giving you a hard time, I have always enjoy power building, but never completely happy with my builds -- just takes time to learn how to do that...

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I avoid some stuff like force field. Check out the enemies package in the nightmare plus mod for a tweak to AI that eliminates pulling, highly recommended. When you use it you can't pull anymore since the whole group will respond. About the shared potion cooldown feature of 2nd mod I linked yeah I really like that as well. It's not just that you can't spam potions but also it affects your stat-allocations. For example a mage will do much better with some points in willpower since you can't rely on potions so much.

Modifié par Gliese, 19 mars 2010 - 06:18 .


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wonko33

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have your characters play naked, Only weapons, boots, gloves, hats, and belts.



The screenshots are epic too.

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Gliese wrote...

Two suggested mods:

http://social.bioware.com/project/667/
http://social.biowar...m/project/1280/

I use both but only the AI improvements of the nightmare plus mod since I don't like all of the other changes in other packages, I'm playing it on hard right now (since that is significantly harder than vanilla nightmare with the simple difficulty increase mod). Might bump it up if it's still too easy.

But actually the best tip I can give you might sound a bit weird but don't read too much tactics and the like on these forums. I've educated myself alot beyond my own trial and error on tactics and strategy and I know of so many ways to exploit the mechanics now from poor AI to overpowered spell combinations that it's become much harder for me to be challenged by the game than it was previously. You have to work at it a bit.


The two suggested mod are brilliant - I am doing the same now - simple difficulty increase + nightmare plus AI mod on Nightmare = Perfect!

Great solution if its too easy for anyone! :bandit:

Modifié par Viz79, 19 mars 2010 - 08:29 .


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Try playing solo as as a shapeshifter.

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In some ways solo is easier--as a mage. Just run around and let mana regen and cast cast cast. Your mobility is much higher, and you get all the pots to yourself.

Of course, I'm talking about the AW/BM mage.

Modifié par astrallite, 19 mars 2010 - 09:27 .


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Gliese

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I found a bug with the nightmare plus mod. I don't know if it's standalone or a result of incompatibility with simple difficulty increase mod. Invisible darkspawn in korcari wilds stay permanently invisible. They would kill a character in my party, the character would res since they are not in combat state, repeat, quite weird.
Just posting it here as well to let you know since the project has been on hold for quite some time. From reading some bug reports in the project discussions there seems to be various issues with the enemies package in general. Too bad I really like not being able to pull single enemies and still utilize full range of archers. :/

UPDATE: Found a possible replacement for pulling fix though it seems to be abandoned in beta status:

http://social.bioware.com/project/1335

Will try it out and see.

Modifié par Gliese, 20 mars 2010 - 12:01 .


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Lol...awesome dual wielding dwarf warrior...lol...game easy...hahaha...

Im guessing you have a lot of premium content unlocked,as well as the Collectors edition items?

Yeah,then your character is OVERPOWERED!But without it the game is pretty difficult at certain times.Before the wonderfully overpowered items it was kind of difficultm *dont go to Orzammar as your destination after lothering *wink* *wink* :D

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Gliese

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Played a bit more with the beta pulling mod, seems to be working fine so far. I'm only in Lothering on my current playthrough though.



About dlc stuff: Yeah I'm glad I don't have any of that, most of it seems overpowered.

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Do it as a Solo healer. its painful

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There are numerous choices for building your characters - just becuase there are some that are more powerful or otherwise optimal doesn't mean you must always choose them.



I have a SH/AW that chose only the fire line for DPS who's only CC spell is mind blast , he filled out both the mage and SH line as well as the heal spell line and only ended up with the first two in the AW line.



This character was quite challenging on Hard and even had to drop a few battles back to normal. There were some times when he still was quite capable given enough access to mana and/or heal potions but there were no real cakewalks.



I think most people that complain the game is too easy are perhaps playing the system...

(maximizing their characters/party and minimizing enemy effectiveness with tactics that may be exploitive of the games AI and limitations)



more so than playing the game a bit more "as intended"... (creating a more balanced character/party and having fun dealing with the challenges the game can offer such a group).



After all the devs did program in ALL the talents and skills and such so clearly they wanted to offer a range of choices in spite of the fact that they were aware that many people would narrow the optimal choices down to a handful and label the rest as "useless" within days of the games release.



Not that there is anything wrong with either approach of course...

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Now a party of mages spamming cone of cold and healing each other...