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[Master Shiori]

Swoo wrote...

I can't really see the CE, is she wearing the Orator armor? I always loved the look of that set for Wynne, and I may actually use it for this mage since he's not so Anti-Chantry that the symbol on the chest won't ruin it for me.
 

She's wearing Orator armor.

Here's a better screenshot of her.

[Brockololly]

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

I told you guys that they wouldn't show DA2 at E3 this year

We'll know for sure starting at 5pm EST Monday June 14th, dammit! Keep hope alive!!!!

/stomps off defiantly 

[Giggles_Manically]

Its not like we are going to see anything new in the next expansion or game, If it boils down to another slide like in Awakening I will never buy another Dragon Age game again.

[Master Shiori]

I'm still hoping for some kind of news regarding DA.



Expasions aren't likely to tie any important lose ends for 2 reasons:



1) tying up lose ends can't be a sole focus of an expansion or even a sequal for that matter



2) the size of the budget prevents them from hiring well known voice actors.

[Swoo]

Master Shiori wrote...

Swoo wrote...

I can't really see the CE, is she wearing the Orator armor? I always loved the look of that set for Wynne, and I may actually use it for this mage since he's not so Anti-Chantry that the symbol on the chest won't ruin it for me.
 

She's wearing Orator armor.

Here's a better screenshot of her.

Gah, go go Team Estro! 

Cool looking CE though.

[Master Shiori]

Swoo wrote...
Gah, go go Team Estro! 

Err, what?

Translation please!!

[bl00dsh0t]

Well to rehash the good old "its not an expansion" argument that also works well as "its not the anime" argument is the game in feb is coming to handhelds. Thus one can assume quite safely that what is coming is a stand alone game, not an expansion. This does not confirm whether or not the game is DA2 or just another dragon age game without a 2 at the end covering something completely different than the story started with the warden.

Damn writing that always makes me depressed xD

Still keep the hope alive boys, its more fun when we are all disspointed and bitter when it does not come true... if it does get shown we get to gloat at blade and awesome so thats not bad icing on the cake either

[bl00dsh0t]

Master Shiori wrote...

Swoo wrote...
Gah, go go Team Estro! 

Err, what?

Translation please!!

I believe he means team estrogen, that be sexism ;D

[soignee]

bl00dsh0t wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Swoo wrote...
Gah, go go Team Estro! 

Err, what?

Translation please!!

I believe he means team estrogen, that be sexism ;D

nothing wrong with that, I've run with all ladies teams before and it's awesome. Shale tanking, Leli and Morrii *and* my lady toons? Awesome. It's like girl's night out. Only with beheadings :3

[Swoo]

Haha yeah. Was poking fun at the all-girl party. Meant nothing by it Shori, it's a good set-up, I just have a crude streak I guess ;P

I don't expect much of anything from DA from E3. I will be pleasantly surprised if proven wrong. IIRC, the first teaser we recieved from DA was a Warden just swinging a blade with blood splatter on a white background, after that was the same Warden fighting solo vs Darkspawn, and then we started getting the real teasers and trailers. It would be nice to see some sort of 20-30 second teaser full of heavily cut clips at least but we'll see.

[blademaster7]

bl00dsh0t wrote...

Still keep the hope alive boys, its more fun when we are all disspointed and bitter when it does not come true... if it does get shown we get to gloat at blade and awesome so thats not bad icing on the cake either

If that date is indeed DA2 then you can make fun of me all you want for being wrong.

Ha! I'll be too excited to care. I will be here in my room dancing in joy... naked. I might post some pictures too.

[blademaster7]

I see nothing wrong with playing females.

One of my favorite PC's is a female 2-H warrior. She's sexy, badass and Morrigan is jealous of her

[Swoo]

blademaster7 wrote...

I see nothing wrong with playing females.

One of my favorite PC's is a female 2-H warrior. She's sexy, badass and Morrigan is jealous of her

It was just a joke, I don't care about male/female PC's except when people pull that creepy card 'Which pixels would you rather stare at for hours?!'.

Plus, I may just be bitter that my Magi whom I think looks awesome as a forum profile is yet another Maric bastard.

[bl00dsh0t]

blademaster7 wrote...

bl00dsh0t wrote...

Still keep the hope alive boys, its more fun when we are all disspointed and bitter when it does not come true... if it does get shown we get to gloat at blade and awesome so thats not bad icing on the cake either

If that date is indeed DA2 then you can make fun of me all you want for being wrong.

Ha! I'll be too excited to care. I will be here in my room dancing in joy... naked. I might post some pictures too.

Ohh please do

Ohh wait actually this type of humor doesnt work on non scandinavians i've heard...seriously please don't

[blademaster7]

Just how many mages do you have anyway?

I tried to upload a few characters 2-3 hours ago and I'm still waiting for them. tsk tsk.

<--- This guy no longer wears robes... thank the Maker

Modifié par blademaster7, 10 juin 2010 - 10:12 .

[Swoo]

blademaster7 wrote...

Just how many mages do you have anyway?

I tried to upload a few characters 2-3 hours ago and I'm still waiting for them. tsk tsk.

<--- This guy no longer wears robes... thank the Maker

My gaming computer crashed about a month ago and I lost all my saves so now I'm replaying getting some Epilogue saves built for DA2 (hopefully). I have a Blood Mage/Spirit Healer that's completed the game, I had a Elven Arcane Warrior I stopped at 12ish because I can't make a male elf that doesn't look like a woman, and I have this mage whom I am going to make a Spirit Healer/Arcane Warrior. I like to think the Spirit of Valor's arse he kicked in the Origin story was so impressed he decided to stick around.

Mages are just fun to me because based on spell setups they can be like playing a completely different class. My Blood Mage can control as many mobs as the game can throw at him, all the while bouncing and balancing spillage/aoe damage and controling the flow of HP with Blood Sacrifice and Party Heals. This Mage will probably play a lot more like a Cleric healing, buffing, debuffing, and tossing out damage spells.

I'm debating getting the Arcane Warrior download that adds four new spells to the AW tree giving them actual sword abilities. It looks balanced but I'd have to readjust my setup to more shorter ranged/aoe spells and play him like a gish (which may be fun). I also stole Brock's idea and snagged the Shapeshifter mod for Morrigan; We'll see what forms aren't balance breaking.

Yeah, I slapped on a starter set of leathers on the current Magi to hold me off until I get more caster stuff. I have Winter Forge but I hardly ever use it to make items (the dye and heraldry only really), but I think when I get things like Avernus' robes and such I'll just apply the exact same stats on leather or medium armor and call it a wash.

[Master Shiori]

soignee wrote...

bl00dsh0t wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Swoo wrote...
Gah, go go Team Estro! 

Err, what?

Translation please!!

I believe he means team estrogen, that be sexism ;D

nothing wrong with that, I've run with all ladies teams before and it's awesome. Shale tanking, Leli and Morrii *and* my lady toons? Awesome. It's like girl's night out. Only with beheadings :3

My team usually consists of my CE warrior, Morrigan, Leliana and Zevran.

I rarely use Wynne except when I want to hear some specific dialogue from her, since Morri handles healing duty just fine.

Shale or Alistair only get called if we're facing a really tough boss that my CE couldn't handle as tank, which rarely happens.

[Brockololly]

Warning! Crazy long post!

Master Shiori wrote...

I'm still hoping for some kind of news regarding DA.

Expasions aren't likely to tie any important lose ends for 2 reasons:

1) tying up lose ends can't be a sole focus of an expansion or even a sequal for that matter

2) the size of the budget prevents them from hiring well known voice actors.

Exactly- they could do an expansion, but the more I think of it the more I'm pretty damn sure the 2/1/2011 thing is definitely going to be the full fledged sequel to Origins. Here is my case then for 2/1/2011 being DA2:

• Look at the gap between Baldur's Gate 1 and Baldur's Gate 2; BG1 came out November 1998. Baldur's Gate 2 came out September 2000. About 2 years. Mass Effect 1 came out November 2007. Mass Effect 2 came out January 2010, again roughly 2 years. 

• Oh, but Brockololly there is no way BioWare could release DA2 in February 2011, Origins only came out November 2009! Well, sure thats when it released to the public but chances are it was done way earlier.

• Originally, DAO was PC only and was all set to be released in March 2009. Dark forces intervened and Origins was pushed back to a late October (later delayed again to early November) release date to coincide with the release of the console ports. But the fact is that the vast vast majority of Origins was all wrapped up and done by March 2009. Sure they did more QA and probably added some Chanters Board quests and worked on Shale, but Origins was for all intents and purposes, content locked by March 2009.

• To boot, we know from dev interviews, they worked on Awakening for little over one year. So imagine that the ex-pack team started work on Awakening early 2009 or so. Imagine then as well that if a vastly smaller team with vastly smaller budget could put together Awakening in a year, imagine what a full team with full budget could do for DA2 in roughly 2 years?

• Oh, but Brockololly, BioWare wasn't working on DA2 from March to November 2009! They were hard at work porting over Origins to the consoles! Well, sure some BioWarians were working on the ports, but the vast majority of work on the DAO console ports was handled by Edge of Reality . 

• So, that leaves us with probably most of the Origins team twiddling their thumbs until November to work on DA2, right? Surely some resources split off to help ME2 finish up or TOR, but you've also got to imagine that a lot of work started up on DA2. If DA2 production started in earnest by April or May 2009, a February 2011 release date isn't unlikely.

• Almost all BioWare sequels use the same engine too. Ignoring that Zeschuk confirms that they are working on DA2, he says in this interview it will be "super hot," which should be possible since they've got the technological foundation laid already to make it hotter in a 2 year time frame. They'll know now how to master the engine and make the content faster and better than what we had in Origins. Look at either ME2 or BG2- both games looked better than their predecessors and used upgraded versions of their engines. All the while, both games were also bigger and better than their predecessors too. 

• BioWare has got the story and lore foundation laid as well. Some might think that DAO was in production since 2004 or whatever, but they likely had a skeleton crew working on the lore for a couple years all the while working on the engine and technology before jumping in and making the game proper. 

• From a post on the old ME forums from September 2009 we know that at that point in time, writers from ME2 were being moved to DA2 or TOR. 

• EA has announced from their last 2 quarterly fiscal reports that a "Dragon Age Title TBA" is scheduled for release in fiscal Q4 2011, which is January 1- March 31, 2011. The title is scheduled to ship for 360, PS3, PC and "handhelds/mobile." Don't know about you, but I have never seen a handheld/mobile version of an expansion pack.

• It also just so happens that Awakening came packaged with a mysterious card with a bloody dragon on it with the date 2/1/2011. Hmmmm... that date lands smack dab right in fiscal Q4! Coincidence?

• And if we go to this episode of GTTV we have a nice interview with the BioWare doctors where they are explicitly asked about the next Dragon Age title- skip ahead to the 17:08 mark:

Geoff Keighly: So I think when people saw that announcement, about a new Dragon Age next year, everyone seems like oh thats Dragon Age 2. Are you guys going to look at a full sequel that quickly on a game or is it more sort of really expanding games out in different dimensions?

Muzyka: You know I think we said it was going to be a stand alone product, the one thats coming out later. Uh and yeah, we have more- we actually have a couple of things in development beyond that too. So there's the expansion and then there is the other one that was announced, without any details yet and then there's another one beyond that too. So we have a long range plan thats already in development for Dragon Age.

• So Muzyka mentioned the DA title coming next year is a stand alone product. That would seem to rule out an ex-pack. Could be a spin off game or sorts, I suppose too. And from that interview they're clearly working on a lot of stuff all at once. Hell, maybe they're already working on an ex-pack for DA2!

• And then of course people say, "Oh but BioWare promised 2 years of DLC!" Hmmm... the DLC claims I've seen from devs in interviews often mentioned 1.5 to 2 years of DLC, like this interview with Zeschuk or this one with producer Mark Darrah . In both cases, they mention a DLC plan that goes for "basically two years" or "maybe a year and a half or two years." Seems flexible to me. And remember, BioWare also said they'd give Mass Effect robust DLC and yeah, we know how that went. And if all we get is more Feastday Gifts or Darkspawn Chronicles, do you really want more of that? Really?

So yeah, thats my case for 2/1/2011 being DA2- maybe it won't be DA2, but rather some sort of spin off. Only BioWare knows for certain. And dammit, I'm sticking to my guns that we hear more about it at E3. Otherwise I'll begin to think its some goofy Dragon Age Kart Racing spin off or something....

[Axekix]

Brockololly wrote...

Muzyka: You know I think we said it was going to be a stand alone product, the one thats coming out later. Uh and yeah, we have more- we actually have a couple of things in development beyond that too. So there's the expansion and then there is the other one that was announced, without any details yet and then there's another one beyond that too. So we have a long range plan thats already in development for Dragon Age.

• So Muzyka mentioned the DA title coming next year is a stand alone product. That would seem to rule out an ex-pack. Could be a spin off game or sorts, I suppose too. And from that interview they're clearly working on a lot of stuff all at once. Hell, maybe they're already working on an ex-pack for DA2!

• And then of course people say, "Oh but BioWare promised 2 years of DLC!" Hmmm... the DLC claims I've seen from devs in interviews often mentioned 1.5 to 2 years of DLC, like this interview with Zeschuk or this one with producer Mark Darrah . In both cases, they mention a DLC plan that goes for "basically two years" or "maybe a year and a half or two years." Seems flexible to me. And remember, BioWare also said they'd give Mass Effect robust DLC and yeah, we know how that went. And if all we get is more Feastday Gifts or Darkspawn Chronicles, do you really want more of that? Really?

So yeah, thats my case for 2/1/2011 being DA2- maybe it won't be DA2, but rather some sort of spin off. Only BioWare knows for certain. And dammit, I'm sticking to my guns that we hear more about it at E3. Otherwise I'll begin to think its some goofy Dragon Age Kart Racing spin off or something....

Wow, you put a lot of research into that.  I hope you're right.  I think the Muzyka quote is the strongest indicator but... who knows?  I'm a little worried that 2011 title might wind up being some kind of spin-off that ties in to the DA anime they're working on instead of DA2 or a DAO expac... 

[Brockololly]

Axekix wrote...
Wow, you put a lot of research into that.  I hope you're right.  I think the Muzyka quote is the strongest indicator but... who knows?  I'm a little worried that 2011 title might wind up being some kind of spin-off that ties in to the DA anime they're working on instead of DA2 or a DAO expac...  

Yeah, it could be a spin off of some sort. They haven't been shy in saying how Dragon Age is different than Mass Effect is as a trilogy and how they can go lots of different places with Dragon Age. Hopefully E3 reveals something, cause they obviously have a plan in place, we just have no clue which direction they're taking DA in right now.

Hmmm....on the topic of an anime tie in game or something, if you check back on that interview with Zeschuk where he mentions how Dragon Age 2 will be "super hot," you've also got this quote:

"I think the overall visual style we're going to continue to evolve in Dragon Age. People are going to see some cool ... I can't really say too much, but I think Dragon Age as a world is interesting."

Makes me wonder if BioWare maybe ditches the whole realistic look for Dragon Age and maybe goes for cel-shading or something kind of like Borderlands did? Or I'm probably reading too much into these quotes:D


 For what its worth, there is also this Q&A with Muzyka from back in January with Eurogamer where he comments on BioWare E3 2010 reveals:

Super Moderating Hero: Lovely. That's nearly all of the questions! I should ask what else we can expect from BioWare in 2010? Reveals at E3?
Ray Muzyka: Yes!

Modifié par Brockololly, 11 juin 2010 - 12:51 .

[Swoo]

Well hell, Brock's on the case and nothing shall remain hidden. Very well done.



I think his quote about it being multiple-platform and being stand alone leaves no wiggle-room, it's a full blown DA2 core game. As to the really hot quotes, you can see already what fans can do with the toolset given motivation and just a little time. Using (mostly) the same team, and the same game engine, they could easily pump up the detail and diversity of people, places, and gear since they don't have to build and design at the same time this go around.



And yes, we always see stuff that wasn't listed anywhere at E3, here's to hoping that we get a little Dragon Age loving.

[Brockololly]

I guess this is kind of related to Morrigan and DA since maybe Morrigan is like Kerrigan from Starcraft? Anyway, here is the new Starcraft 2 commercial, which is awesome:

[Swoo]

Brockololly wrote...

I guess this is kind of related to Morrigan and DA since maybe Morrigan is like Kerrigan from Starcraft? Anyway, here is the new Starcraft 2 commercial, which is awesome:

Ok, what the hell was up with that guys accent at the very end? I broke out laughing, it was like someone was trying to a hipper Keith David and oooooh so failed.

[bl00dsh0t]

Brock you remain our champion of research, god damn



The hope meter is back up at 95% courtesy of those interviews, and the bitterness meter over lack of patch has gone up a little bit ;D 800 people god damn had no clue they were that damn big ^^