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[Brockololly]

Mustang678 wrote...

Speaking of Gaider, which pages did he reply to? I read about 120 of them and just got sick of reading

You're either quite devoted or quite bored=]

Gaider's comments are on page 68:wizard:

[Mustang678]

Thanks, and yeah I've had quite a lot of free time and an interest in Morrigan

Edit:  Ha, almost started 4 pages in a row.

Also, glad that the Morrigan thread is only 150 pages long instead of 1988 or however high the Alistair thread is now

Modifié par Mustang678, 27 juin 2010 - 05:29 .

[Swoo]

Mustang678 wrote...

Thanks, and yeah I've had quite a lot of free time and an interest in Morrigan

Edit:  Ha, almost started 4 pages in a row.

Also, glad that the Morrigan thread is only 150 pages long instead of 1988 or however high the Alistair thread is now

As a heads up if you click on the Bioware icon underneath the thread it will show you all the employee posts in a new page so you don't have to sift through entire threads to see what was said.

[Mustang678]

Swoo wrote...

Mustang678 wrote...

Thanks, and yeah I've had quite a lot of free time and an interest in Morrigan

Edit:  Ha, almost started 4 pages in a row.

Also, glad that the Morrigan thread is only 150 pages long instead of 1988 or however high the Alistair thread is now

As a heads up if you click on the Bioware icon underneath the thread it will show you all the employee posts in a new page so you don't have to sift through entire threads to see what was said.

I tried that and it took me to the first page each time, possibly forgot to enable scripts from bioware's site I suppose

[Brockololly]

Swoo wrote...

Mustang678 wrote...

Thanks, and yeah I've had quite a lot of free time and an interest in Morrigan

Edit:  Ha, almost started 4 pages in a row.

Also, glad that the Morrigan thread is only 150 pages long instead of 1988 or however high the Alistair thread is now

As a heads up if you click on the Bioware icon underneath the thread it will show you all the employee posts in a new page so you don't have to sift through entire threads to see what was said.

Yeah, the Morrigan thread has some substantial posts and rants. No pic spamming here!


Oh and I know clicking on the BioWare icon gets to the posts, but there isn't any quick way to see the developer posts on the original pages, is there? I mean, besides sifting through the posts?

Modifié par Brockololly, 27 juin 2010 - 05:45 .

[Master Shiori]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

Well, for those who didn't do the DR it would violate their playthroughs (by establishing a set canon). And then you add in the romance, which would be another big factor (moreso for the Warden-Morrigan interaction than anything else). The minor stuff (like 2nd in line to the Teyrn of Highever [Cousland Wardens]) could be relegated to a few dialog lines or Epilogue slides.

Bioware never said they'll respect every single choice the players made in Origins.
Their goal is to create an excellent game and that's all that matters. If it requires for them t cannonize something because it has potential to make for an interesting future story, then that's what they're going to do.
And let's face it; of the 4 endings in Origins, Dark Promise provides you with the most material for future stories. It can even have world chaning consequences based on how they handle it. I honestly doubt they'll simply ignore it just to avoid hurting someone's feelings, especiall since, at this point, whatever they decide to do will make someone unhappy. It's more of a question of whose toes you want to step on.

And a child of Cousland Warden and Morrigan wouldn't be after land and titles. Morrigan doesn't place any value on such things and I doubt she'll teach the OGB to do otherwise.

MKDAWUSS wrote...

The last sentence of your first paragraph contradicts most of the second (normal kid vs. someone special!). The big question is, why raise this kid in secret? If you're going to hop on in and use this kid's abilities, doing it where no one would notice would make things a lot easier, since no one is going to be asking questions. In regards to the spirit of Urthemiel, who's going to know? For all they know this is just a baby boy or girl to the rest of the citizens in Thedas (who also might be an heir to the Teyrn of Highever, the throne of Ferelden, etc).

Now there is a very valid point as to why she wouldn't, and again, this starts to one specific playstyle/series of events, but (as someone on another forum stated) she's one of the few who somewhat becomes softened over the course of the game, which is more noticeable if romanced. The Morrigan of the Korcari Wilds/pre-Grimoire has a totally tougher personality than the Morrigan of the post-Grimoire/romance.

As much as I would love for my Warden (Cousland) to reunite with his lover and child, I just don't see it happening because of the numerous variables involved with other people's playstyles and story choices - those who didn't do the romance or DR would either be subject to a retcon or have their stories be discarded entirely.

The child is normal, but possesses the soul of an Old God. Any act of possession would most likely destroy that soul and thus make the possession itself meaningless.

As for numerous variables involved in other peoples playstyles, the only one that would need to be cannonnized is the dark ritual itself.
Most of the others can be safely ignored by moving the plot of the next game to another country and replacing the darkspawn as main antagonists with someone else.
That would allow you to tell a completelly different story, possibly about magic and politics, Chantry and Circle of Mages or even Chantry vs Old Gods.

According to the codex in Origins the Dragon Age is supposed to e the time of great upheaval and change for all of Thedas. I can't think of an event that would cause bigger upheaval then the return of the Old God(s).

[Master Shiori]

And since we've had a lack of Morri pics lately here's one to get us going:

[MKDAWUSS]

Master Shiori wrote...
Bioware never said they'll respect
every single choice the players made in Origins.
Their goal is to
create an excellent game and that's all that matters. If it requires for
them t cannonize something because it has potential to make for an
interesting future story, then that's what they're going to do.
And
let's face it; of the 4 endings in Origins, Dark Promise provides you
with the most material for future stories. It can even have world
chaning consequences based on how they handle it. I honestly doubt
they'll simply ignore it just to avoid hurting someone's feelings,
especiall since, at this point, whatever they decide to do will make
someone unhappy. It's more of a question of whose toes you want to step
on.

True, the DR does provide the most options for future material, but again, not everyone did it, not everyone became Morrigan's BF or BFF, and some of those probably have no interest in a reunion. There's the sacrifice endings and alternate romances to consider as well. The DR + romance has great potential and is a great storyline in DAO, but again, that's one of several combined outcomes.

And a child of Cousland Warden and Morrigan wouldn't be after
land and titles. Morrigan doesn't place any value on such things and I
doubt she'll teach the OGB to do otherwise.

Neither did Alistair for most of DAO.

The child is
normal, but possesses the soul of an Old God. Any act of possession
would most likely destroy that soul and thus make the possession itself
meaningless.

So talents and abilities come from the soul? Now this raises a good question (not necessarily DA specific) - where do abilties acquired lie? This could explain a couple of things about the souls of the walking corpses

According to the codex in Origins the Dragon
Age is supposed to e the time of great upheaval and change for all of
Thedas. I can't think of an event that would cause bigger upheaval then
the return of the Old God(s).

You're right about that - it also provides a post-darkspawn scenario. (Or we could have Thedas nations going to war with each other as well)

Brockololly wrote...

Well, as Gaider has mentioned in this very thread, all BioWare is out to do is make a fantastic game. If a canon storyline from Origins makes DA2 a better game, so be it. I don't understand why everyone thinks canon storylines are EVIL. They've never said DA is like ME where they'll track every itty bitty choice. Maybe a sequel will, maybe it won't, but I think its MYOPIC to say canonizing the DR would violate your Origins playthrough. Hell, BioWare already violated all the US Wardens by giving them a free rez in Awakening if they so choose. The DR just offers way more story options moving forward than the US does.

Because canon storylines essentially force you to play a game a certain way (with the exception of bit characters and minor sidequests), and can render certain character personalities/types useless. Basically people want to hang on to/continue their characters, which may be substantially different from someone else's. Just providing an explanation for that.

Why not raise the kid in secret or at least seclusion? Morrigan is outwardly exotic and draws attention (just have her in the Lothering Chantry where she gets spotted as an apostate by the Templars). Morrigan has no taste for the norms of civilization and would no doubt stick out like a sore thumb. And who knows what kind of stuff this OGB is going to be doing? Maybe it will be churning up massive uncontrolled magic which would draw attention in a city or town. Maybe Morrigan could get away with raising the kid in the public eye, but if the OGB starts spouting off claims that its Urthemiel reborn and blasting fireballs from its eyes and bolts of lightning from its arse, I think the Chantry and Templars might come calling. So perhaps discretion is merited here.

If the OGB starts doing that, he or she is probably going to head into civilization and into the Chantry and Templars.

Maybe, maybe not. We just don't know at this point. Am I expecting every choice to be acknowledged going forward? Of course not. If bringing the Warden and Morrigan makes for a better game and story in DA2 then I have no doubt BioWare will do it. The whole variability and choices issue isn't as big of an issue as some people seem to make it out to be. Thats where good writers come in. If you didn't do the DR and opted for the US, BioWare could very easily go about it like they are in ME2 to ME3 if Shepard dies- the story of your Shep in ME2 is done, so if you want to play ME3, you won't be able to import that save and instead just use a default Shepard.

And as far as those who have their Wardens alive but didn't do the DR, Morrigan is still out there. We don't know that there isn't another way for her to get the Old God's soul. They can explain it away a million different ways, like Swoo mentioned.

I was under the impression that the sacrifice endings destroyed both souls.

[Swoo]

I'm not entirely sure what happens to the souls of the AD and the Warden when they merge other than it's really bad, I was just throwing an idea out there that if they want to go forward with the Kid storyline, they can easily do the '/handwave, it's different magic!' line at the very start to bring just about any playthrough up to the same starting point.

As to why she has to raise the kid in secret, I think that's something everyone here wants to know. It was one of the 'big' questions the DR gave us no room to explore in the game. I can guess back and forth for hours and come up with nothing conclusive.

[MKDAWUSS]

Swoo wrote...

I'm not entirely sure what happens to the souls of the AD and the Warden when they merge other than it's really bad, I was just throwing an idea out there that if they want to go forward with the Kid storyline, they can easily do the '/handwave, it's different magic!' line at the very start to bring just about any playthrough up to the same starting point.

As to why she has to raise the kid in secret, I think that's something everyone here wants to know. It was one of the 'big' questions the DR gave us no room to explore in the game. I can guess back and forth for hours and come up with nothing conclusive.

I just dug up the quotes regarding it (post-coronation save quotes archive back that far yay), and the "essence" of both GW and AD are destroyed. So under a sacrifice ending, that would literally be the end of Urthemiel, as opposed to a non-GW kill, where Urthemiel's essence moves into a darkspawn, or the DR, where it moves into the OGB.

Unless I'm misunderstanding things, essence and soul are basically the same thing in this context.

The whole secrecy thing has me thinking that there's some trick up someone's sleeve, and it's one that might be problematic in numerous people's eyes....

[Master Shiori]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

True, the DR does provide the most options for future material, but again, not everyone did it, not everyone became Morrigan's BF or BFF, and some of those probably have no interest in a reunion. There's the sacrifice endings and alternate romances to consider as well. The DR + romance has great potential and is a great storyline in DAO, but again, that's one of several combined outcomes.

Like i said, they won't bother with honoring every single choice in the game. If cannonizing the dark promise is what it takes to make the future DA title a better game then they'll most likely do it.
Bioware never shied away from using cannon in the past (Baldur's Gate series being a great example), so I doubt they'll avoid it now. And you don't need to be BF or BFF with Morrigan to do the dark ritual. The ritual itself simply offers you the best chance of surviving the final battle.
At this point, however, they can go in any direction they choose. We're simply looking at the most obvious route based on lose ends from Origins.

MKDAWUSS wrote...

Neither did Alistair for most of DAO.

Alistair is a different case. He is a bastard child of the king who is trust into the struggle for the throne by fate. Had things been different he would have been more than happy to life out his life as a commoner and a grey warden.

Morrigan's child, however, isn't the only heir to the Highever. Fergus also survived and can remarry in order to produce an heir.
Not to mention that Morrigan despises the social status in normal society and wouldn't even bother attaining it under any circumstance, much less make her child do it.
To her, being a noble doesn't hold any appeal.

MKDAWUSS wrote...
So talents and abilities come from the soul? Now this raises a good question (not necessarily DA specific) - where do abilties acquired lie? This could explain a couple of things about the souls of the walking corpses

If Flemeth is any indication then yes, talents and abilities do come from the soul. She retained her power by possessing the bodies of her daughters and replacing their souls with her own.
Ofc, this was made possible by the fact she was an abomination, and not just a normal sorceress.
Most of the undead corpses that you encounter work on the same principal. Their power comes from the type of demon possessing them, rather than the corpse itself. The corpse could possess it's own abilities but these only serve to enchance the spirits own powers (arcane horrors can only be created by having a desire or pride demon possess a mage, for example).

MKDAWUSS wrote...
You're right about that - it also provides a post-darkspawn scenario. (Or we could have Thedas nations going to war with each other as well)

There's plenty of opportunities for future stories here. Morrigan's take doesn't have to be central to the future DA titles or for that matter continued if the develophers don't want to go down that path.
However, if you followed the events in Origins and Awakening closely you'll see that some sort of ground work is already being laid down.
Morrigan and Flemeth remain mysterious characters whose motivations are never really revealed, not matter how much the player tries to do so.
Regardless of whether you accept her offer or not, Morrigan will disappear into Orlais and, funny enough, Orlais is the country we learn the most about in Origins and Awakening. Could be the clue as to the location where DA2 will take place.
At the end of Awakening every single Warden, no matter his/her choices, disappears from Ferelden and nobody believes they've seen the last of him/her. Now for some players who romanced Morrigan, Leliana or Zevran that is to be expected, but what purpose would removing the player who choose to become prince-consort/queen, chancellor or simply remain with the Grey Wardens serve? Unless they're setting the groundwork for having the Warden continue his/her adventures in other parts of Thedas, it would have been a lot easier for the writers to simply say he/she remained the Warden Commander of Vigil's Keep or whatever it is he/she choose to do and then have DA2 take place 30 years later when the Warden is dead and gone.

Modifié par Master Shiori, 27 juin 2010 - 05:35 .

[Fntsybks]

Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...

The secrecy and Morrigan running off? I can think of a lot of viable reasons here are few off the top of my head.

-Morrigan is an apostate.
-Morrigan probably believes life away from society and the sheltered lifestyle would teach the child better lessons and survival.
-The child is probably going to be Magic sensitive for one it is an Old God who are believed to have taught the first mages magic, and that is when they mages began worshipping them(the first sin according to the Chantry I believe), and if you don't believe that I imagine Morrigan being a mage gives the child quite a good chance of being a mage. The last thing she wants to deal with is the Chantry.
-Morrigan living beside the most iconic figure in Thedas would really make it easy for Flemeth to track her down. She is quite deteremined to kill Flemeth and protect herself, so I doubt she would make it so easy for Flemeth to find her.

I think that there is one more important point - nobody knows exactly what the Old God will do/become. If Morrigan lives in civilization, one incident, similar to how Wynne set another child on fire, would instantly bring the Templars to the Old God. The OGB will have magical powers, quite likely greater than any other mage ever seen. Furthermore, she could not teach the child magic without talk, and the Templars have become very good at sniffing out magi. Finally, Morrigan was born and raised in the wilderness, and it offers a secluded area to practice/teach magic in the closest thing she has to a home.

[Swoo]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

I just dug up the quotes regarding it (post-coronation save quotes archive back that far yay), and the "essence" of both GW and AD are destroyed. So under a sacrifice ending, that would literally be the end of Urthemiel, as opposed to a non-GW kill, where Urthemiel's essence moves into a darkspawn, or the DR, where it moves into the OGB.

Unless I'm misunderstanding things, essence and soul are basically the same thing in this context.

The whole secrecy thing has me thinking that there's some trick up someone's sleeve, and it's one that might be problematic in numerous people's eyes....

True about the essence, but when you are talking about someone who already broke out one 'this changes everything' card, it's not out of the realm of possibility to ease another one into the plot if needed to get everyone on the same page. We know so little about the Grey Wardens, Archdemon and Darkspawn, and even the Old God's themselves they have plenty of wiggle room at the moment. I just don't see them introducing her into the game with two seperate and wildly divergent plotlines such as having an OGB and not having one; Normally this would reason as 'well, that's why you won't see her again', but it's already been confirmed she's coming back and has much more to play in the meta, so I tend to believe they'll find a workaround in the 'you were told the best case scenario, not the only one'.

She says (and Gaider confirmed) that she was being truthful about having no plans of using the OGB against you or Ferelden, so if there is a trick involved I think it will end up with her being outplayed by Flemeth, not her outplaying us. That could open a huge can of worms though, because we know Morrigan may operate under selfish reasons, but she's not true evil. Flemeth, it wouldn't surprise me at all to think the worst is coming from whatever she had planned.

[Master Shiori]

They'll have to find some way to handle it, that's for sure.
Making DR cannon is one option, but they're bound to have other scenarios as well.

The stumbling block here is the OGB itself, since it's what gives Morrigan importance and makes her such an attractive plot element to be explored in the future.
The whole DR feels more like the beginning of Morrigan's story, rather than the end. Develophers really did a grand job with her as a character, by revealing just enough about her personality, values and motivations to get the players interested but not enough to remove the mystery of the character.

Modifié par Master Shiori, 27 juin 2010 - 09:25 .

[MKDAWUSS]

Master Shiori wrote...

There's plenty of opportunities for future stories here. Morrigan's take doesn't have to be central to the future DA titles or for that matter continued if the develophers don't want to go down that path.
However, if you followed the events in Origins and Awakening closely you'll see that some sort of ground work is already being laid down.
Morrigan and Flemeth remain mysterious characters whose motivations are never really revealed, not matter how much the player tries to do so.
Regardless of whether you accept her offer or not, Morrigan will disappear into Orlais and, funny enough, Orlais is the country we learn the most about in Origins and Awakening. Could be the clue as to the location where DA2 will take place.
At the end of Awakening every single Warden, no matter his/her choices, disappears from Ferelden and nobody believes they've seen the last of him/her. Now for some players who romanced Morrigan, Leliana or Zevran that is to be expected, but what purpose would removing the player who choose to become prince-consort/queen, chancellor or simply remain with the Grey Wardens serve? Unless they're setting the groundwork for having the Warden continue his/her adventures in other parts of Thedas, it would have been a lot easier for the writers to simply say he/she remained the Warden Commander of Vigil's Keep or whatever it is he/she choose to do and then have DA2 take place 30 years later when the Warden is dead and gone.

Placing things in Orlais makes things regarding your decisions for Ferelden in DAO/DAA a lot easier, since all those variables can then be a non-issue (maybe a few lines of dialogue regarding the monarch of Orzammar and Ferelden, but that's easy to do). Add in the bonus of seeing a new culture and there ya go.

Master Shiori wrote...

They'll have to find some way to
handle it, that's for sure.
Making DR cannon is one option, but
they're bound to have other scenarios as well.

The stumbling
block here is the OGB itself, since it's what gives Morrigan importance
and makes her such an attractive plot element to be explored in the
future.
The whole DR feels more like the beginning of Morrigan's
story, rather than the end. Develophers really did a grand job with her
as a character, by revealing just enough about her personality, values
and motivations to get the players interested but not enough to remove
the mystery of the character.

Making it canon would make things a lot easier if it's to be included - then all you have to worry about is adding variants based on your interaction with Morrigan (which doesn't have as drastic variables as the OGB). The hope would be that there would be a plausible/believable alternate for the non-DR (and possibly non-romance) people.

IRG2 the OGB - I'm curious as to how he or she will look like. That itself could provide for a few lines of dialog for the romance+DR people lol

[ximena]

A quick one for that epilogue slide wherein Morrigan insinuates herself within the Orlesian Court. I doubt she'll wear her old clothes. XD Still a W.I.P.!

Modifié par ximena, 28 juin 2010 - 12:53 .

[MKDAWUSS]

ximena wrote...

A quick one for that epilogue slide wherein Morrigan insinuates herself within the Orlesian Court. I doubt she'll wear her old clothes. XD Still a W.I.P.!

Not bad. While she'll probably be wearing a different outfit, there'll still probably be elements of her default Origins one.

Me, I had her wear Wade's Superior Dragonbone Plate Armor - it matched her makeup.

[Swoo]

ximena wrote...

A quick one for that epilogue slide wherein Morrigan insinuates herself within the Orlesian Court. I doubt she'll wear her old clothes. XD Still a W.I.P.!

Awesome! Is it red velvet?

[ximena]

@MKDAWUSS - Yeah. I think so too. I'm still in the process of adding bits and pieces of her old origins outfit feel



@Swoo - Of course it is. XD

[Brockololly]

Swoo wrote...

ximena wrote...

A quick one for that epilogue slide wherein Morrigan insinuates herself within the Orlesian Court. I doubt she'll wear her old clothes. XD Still a W.I.P.!

Awesome! Is it red velvet?

I'm loving it Ximena! Splendid!

I always wonder what Morrigan would be up to in the Orlesian court. I always picture her as being a Rasputin type figure, still retaining her kind of exotic, wild look and  thats perhaps why she is kept around in the court by the nobles almost as a novelty. But of course Morrigan would be up to some scheming plan....maybe she's dabbling in blood magic to control the Empress?


Hehe... come on BioWare, you want to make up for lackluster DLC? Here is a winner: Morrigan, Leliana and Shale shopping spree DLC in Val Royeaux!

[Swoo]

Brockololly wrote...

Hehe... come on BioWare, you want to make up for lackluster DLC? Here is a winner: Morrigan, Leliana and Shale shopping spree DLC in Val Royeaux!

And then...Antivan...ninjas...attack?

[Brockololly]

Swoo wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Hehe... come on BioWare, you want to make up for lackluster DLC? Here is a winner: Morrigan, Leliana and Shale shopping spree DLC in Val Royeaux!

And then...Antivan...ninjas...attack?

No no no... then the Architect drops by because he needs some new sunglasses for his wonderfully crooked eyes!

[GardenSnake]

Brockololly wrote...

Swoo wrote...

Brock, them fighting a male dragon shouldn't come as a surprise.

Oh, I'm just trying to piece together why in this DLC Leliana and friends would be anywhere fighting a dragon. I thought it would be mostly city and castle dungeon crawling which doesn't seem like a place for dragons. We'll know soon enough I suppose.

Swoo wrote...
It was just a total and criminal misuse of characters in that game. You spend 99% of the game chasing down this new breed of Darkspawn, and then you get basically the games plot dropped on you in the last second and are told to make a choice. They really should have spaced the information out a bit more so you could actually form an opinion. I wasted the Architect because I knew nothing about him other than 'I want to Taint everyone', and past the glaring holes in logic of that, you find out after the fact he's the jackass who started the Blight. Ugh. Great character concept, completely inept in game. The Jowan of the Darkspawn, m'friends.

Exactly- If I hadn't read The Calling before, I would have thought the Architect was just a huge loser. I mean he is the Darkspawn Urkel-
"Hey Mr. Architect your bone headed plan just tainted an Old God and started a Blight."
Architect: " Did I do that?" (VO note: in nasal, Urkel voice)

They really wasted the Architect as a villain in Awakening. He was fantastic and creepy in The Calling and he looks interesting enough in Awakening yet he's in all of 2 short scenes! And his plan in The Calling was so much better and devious than in Awakening.  Wasted potential, like so much of Awakening. That said I had at least one of my PCs spare him in the slim hope maybe he'll show up in the future and BioWare will actually give him something to do. On second thought, he's make an awesome companion! It'll be like a buddy cop movie, the Architect and Grey Warden!

Swoo wrote...
You have to give information eventually, otherwise it moves away from mysterious and just into boring. Look at LOST, they suffered it more than anyone else in the past decade or two.

Thats exactly my fear with many of the unresolved plot points and "mysteries" in Origins. I'm perfectly ok if they don't go about explaining away certain things like religion where you should have an element of faith involved, but other things like Morrigan and the OGB can't be brushed aside or marginalized with some new shiny mystery. I never watched LOST but many of my friends did and one of their compaints was that a cool mysterious plot point would be introduced only to never be explained again or to be brushed aside for another new "mystery." Its cool for a bit but without any payoff, it gets old quick.

As far as Morrigan and the OGB goes, I'm a bit worried it might be like some of the season finales of 24. I n on eof the season finales they had an assassin person basically poison the President and then the President collapsed, cut to 24 clock, end of season. So you're thinking its a big cliffhanger but once the next season starts its a couple years later and the president is fine  and its all explained away in a couple sentences.

Or in the 5th season finale I think where Jack gets abducted by the Chinese at the very last minute. So you're thinking that will be a big plot point in season 6. Nevermind that season 6 of 24 was terrible, but they basically just conveniently fly Jack back from China in the 1st episode. Basically what I'm getting at is, I'm only slightly worried that maybe MOrrigan and the OGB will be given some closure only in the form of some brief 2 minute cameo or they do something to explain it all away in a matter of seconds at the start of DA2.... like having a giant rock fall on Morrigan and the OGB.<_<

Brock, you watch 24?  Awesome!!!! What did you think of the series finale? Kind of anti-climactic if you ask me, but at least it's gonna lead into the movie which is hopefully gonna give Jack the ending he deserves. But about DA, did you guys hear about Leliana's Song? It's got the ME convo system  It technically makes sense seeing as the fact that it would be a total waste of Kempa's time to just record voice over for a scene here and there, but I really hope that's not the direction they're going in for DA2. The convo system in Origins was next to perfect  IMO and I really don't get why they started fiddling with it and decided to throw it aside. Sure, after the first playthrough you could drain a character of their dialouge options for approval almost instantly after getting them, but that's the only thing that should really be changed if you ask me. After playing Awakening through a second time and actually getting all of the characters to like me, I still found it very difficult to connect with them and I think it's because of the lack of intimacy between you and your companions that the Origins' system provides. And I want DA2 news too... this is starting to get ridiculous......

[MKDAWUSS]

DA2 news would definitely answer a lot of speculation surrounding the potentially developing storyline with Morrigan and her child