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[MKDAWUSS]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I dont know how people can think Morrigan truly loves the Warden. Its not over the DR or concealing how a warden kills the Archdemon no. Its not telling him what is really going on with the OGB, since it is obvious that there is more than one layer to this cake. If you wont tell someone you supposedly love the truth, then to me its not love.

But you have to admit - her character does change from the Korcari Wilds to the Battle of Denerim.

BTW, are you referring to why she was elusive as to why the Warden couldn't spend the rest of his days with her?

[Brockololly]

[quote]Master Shiori wrote...

We also know the story won't feature darkspawn again and will most likely be set outside Ferelden (my money is on Orlais). Such changes would make it easier to continue playing as the Warden since they make most of the choices from Origins redundant. My greatest hope is to see Morrigan again.
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I'm not so sure it wouldn't feature darkspawn again. Especially if we're still the Warden as the PC, then throw in the Old Gods, and the darkspawn figure quite easily into that. Obviously not Blight level darkspawn stuff, but I could see BioWare building more off of the whole Awakened darkspawn thing- maybe a darkspawn companion? Shades of Legion in ME2?

[quote]Terra_Ex wrote...

Still have yet to play Overlord, though I did like Kasumi's mission and wouldlike to see more missions of that style in ME3. That reminds me Barbarossa, if you've never played it you should pick up Deus Ex (the original one) for PC. If you enjoy shooters, Fallout 3 & ME2 I'm pretty certain you'll enjoy that.[/quote]

As much as I love ME2, I haven't felt compelled to try out any of the DLC (Kasumi or Overlord). In part its that the gameplay while good, gets old after a while, I think. ME1 was far from perfect but it had a unique feel and I think ME2 while maybe playing more like a shooter, ultimately feels more generic gameplay wise. I just watched the Youtube vids of the playthroughs for Kasumi and Overlord. 

And I'd second the Deus Ex suggestion- it may be a little rough around the edges visually and presentation wise but its good stuff.


[quote]Terra_Ex wrote...
Swoo's highly enjoyable rant and adneate's Wolf Age comments pretty much coverthe case for not making huge jumps in the timeline. I'm not so concerned about that as I am the possibility of them ditching the majority of the existing cast. iirc Gaider said that at some point it may be feasible for DA to move out of the Dragon Age (can't remember hisexact wording, you're the quotes guy Brock) but it was seemed to imply that it wasn't happening anytime soon. [/quote]

I doubt they'll make a huge time jump. Nothing like 100 years or anything. But would they jump ahead 20-30 years? I don't know. At that time frame the world would still be relatively the same but they could brush aside old characters to make way for new ones if thats their plan. And they could still have some characters around just much older or in the case of the OGB, all grown up.

As for that Gaider quote you're thinking of.....wow, that might be one I've never read before! I do recall him possibly mentioning how they might still name future games "Dragon Age" even if it doesn't actually take place in the Dragon Age- much like BG2 is titled BG2, even though Baldur's Gate has nothing to do with the game itself.

[quote]Terra_Ex wrote...

I'd have to say no to more origins though, while I can see your point for simplifying and acknowledging past decisions it's really not necessary since they can just pull the relevant data from plot flags, as you say though if we move out of Ferelden there's not a whole lot of relevant stuff that needs to be carried forward. My ideal would obviously be a straight import into DA2 (with the proviso that DA2 actually reads the correct flags.)[/quote]

I mean I'd mainly like the new Origins to sort of acknowledge what happened in Origins and to kind of show you how the world has changed since Origins based on your actions there. Its something that would be nice but definitely not necessary. I'm just curious if the Origins is something BioWare wants to keep doing or if it was a one time deal? It was a pretty innovative idea but no doubt a lot of work. I guess I'd only like the Origins stories as a safeguard against having more generic scenes like the DR, especially given the state of the plot flags.

[quote]Terra_Ex wrote...
On a side note, have Bioware ever actually allowed you to continue a romance or have significantly changed dialogue in a full fledged sequel, to my knowledge they have not - it was neatly sidestepped in ME2 via a pseudo acknowledgement but I'm assuming they're planning to resolve them in ME3. It would be interesting to see how it was implemented if we retain our current warden, would they choose to retain some of the current LI companions or ditch them all in favour of new candidates... [/quote]

Well, the only "true" sequels BioWare has made were BG2 and ME2. And really the transition to BG1 to BG2 just canonized most things and romances weren't an issue. For most purposes though Throne of Bhaal really was BG3 and of course there the romances were all continued and the story picked up right where it left off in BG2.

I really didn't care for how the ME1 romances were handled in ME2- with Liara it was practically non existent, and with Ash/Kaiden its a cookie cutter scene. I'll give them a bit of a pass to wait and see how ME3 unfolds but for DA2, please no cookie cutter scenes. I'll be curious to know how they'll handle the Origins companions too. They could really come up with reasons for them all to be gone but conversely most could have stuck around with your Warden too. Then again if Awakening is anything to go off of, they'll ditch everyone including your dog with no explanation given all for the sake of new and shiny companions.

[quote]Terra_Ex wrote...
After the last two offerings, I'll hold off until we can verify it actually is an improvement on on the norm - I am definitely more interested in it than Feastday & DC though. If they are actually following through on whatthey hinted at (introducing new characters via DLC that you'll meet in alater game) that could be interesting and a shrewd way to retain interest in the franchise in the interim period. I too share your disappointment that a new patch won't accompany the dlc, and I'll note that the wait for a patch to address the issues that 1.03 introduced has been rather ridiculous imo.
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I'll likely get the DLC on Tuesday and bite the bullet and reinstall 1.03. But I'll try and wait long enough to see some reactions to the DLC first. The Leliana DLC looks good and sounds good, but then again so did Awakening.<_<

As for the patch, its crazy IMO. For me at least, 1.03 fixed the long loading times but as a trade-off introduced a host of other bugs and crashes far worse. Its been 4 months since Awakening came out. I'll put my PC fanboy hat on and blame the consoles here. First off, BioWare is slow with patches anyway. But DAO is really their first multiplatform game across PC, 360 and PS3. And of course they want simultaneous releases for all of the patches- which means while the PC ones could go out quick, the console versions need to go thourgh MS and Sony too. Then you had the PS3 update debacle which likely slowed down any patch progress by diverting resources.

[quote]Swoo wrote...

NO on playing the OGB

I think the biggest resistence to the OGB right now is that it won't feel rightto a mgood sized chunk of the playerbase with how open-ended and unfinished 'what came before' has been handled. A solid 'end' to the
WardenxMorrigan story and the OGB can be taken in a better light and probably be looked forward too, as it stands now the idea just is totally unappealing .
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Exactly my feelings. Being the OGB would be very Oedipus/Freudian like Barbarossa mentioned....They need to give closure to the Warden (besides "vanishing!") before I'll be happy with any other new stories. No matter how awesome and amazing the new story might be, why should I bother getting emotionally engages when they'll probably yank the rug out from beneath the new PC just like the old one?


[quote]Swoo wrote...
I could be totally wrong about this, or plans may have changed, but they really seem to be slightly tipping their hand that this is the case. You don't keep current Origin/Awakening character's histories close to the vest unless you plan to reveal them later on, you don't talk about introducing future...I dunno, persons of interest?....in DLC that takes place a few years before Origins, and so on and so forth unless the gameplan isn't looking as far ahead as they want to drop from time to time to keep you guessing.[/quote]

At this point I 'm confident in thinking DA2 won't be too far in the future, but nothing I've read gives me any hope or faith that they'll bring the Warden back. There will be some sort of continuity or acknowledgement of the events from Origins (canon or not) but I'm not sold that they'll bring the Warden back as the PC in DA2.


[quote]Swoo wrote...
"Keep your Baldurs Gate II saves, your adventure will continue in Neverwinter Nights!". Makes me laugh when I see that ingame during BG2's loading, or going back and watching the "Shep's Dead" leadup to ME2. I trust nothing until it's in my hands.[/quote]

 QFMFT
I'd forgotten about that Baldur's Gate one. But BioWare certainly like to be tricky. Even if Gaider came on this thread tomorrow and said the Warden will be back as the PC in DA2 and have an awesome reunion with Morri and have the whole OGB plotline, I wouldn't believe it until I've got the game on my hard drive.


[quote]Swoo wrote...
They'd never do it, but I'd really like to see drunken, broken Alistair. It would be a great character arc to see him find his redemption plus have a logical reason to be a party companion in DA2.
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I've never had Alistair end up like that but it would be interesting. Even if Alistair is king they could always have him get deposed or go off on a Maric style adventure a la The Calling if they want to bring him back as a companion. I really liked Alistair overall- his banter with Morrigan is priceless.

[quote]Giggles_Manically wrote...

I dont know how people can think Morrigan truly loves the Warden. Its not over the DR or concealinghow a warden kills the Archdemon no. Its not telling him what is reallygoing on with the OGB, since it is obvious that there is more than one layer to this cake. If you wont tell someone you supposedly love the truth, then to me its not love.[/quote]

She might not love the Warden if you're a dick to her the whole game. But if you are in a relationship with Morrigan its painfully obvious she loves the Warden and she'll say as much. There are plenty of reasons, all speculation why she might not have told the Warden the whole story about the OGB. Just because she isn't giving the PC the whole story doesn't mean she is lying or doesn't love the Warden though. Its not that Morrigan isn't telling you the truth, she is just not willing (for reasons unknown) to tell you everything.There is an important difference there.

Modifié par Brockololly, 04 juillet 2010 - 03:50 .

[Swoo]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I dont know how people can think Morrigan truly loves the Warden. Its not over the DR or concealing how a warden kills the Archdemon no. Its not telling him what is really going on with the OGB, since it is obvious that there is more than one layer to this cake. If you wont tell someone you supposedly love the truth, then to me its not love.

You mean other than she says so and the writer himself confirmed it? I have absolutely no clue.

[Swoo]

Brockololly wrote...
She might not love the Warden if you're a dick to her the whole game.
But if you are in a relationship with Morrigan its painfully obvious she
loves the Warden and she'll say as much. There are plenty of reasons,
all speculation why she might not have told the Warden the whole story
about the OGB. Just because she isn't giving the PC the whole story
doesn't mean she is lying or doesn't love the Warden though. Its not
that Morrigan isn't telling you the truth, she is just not willing (for
reasons unknown) to tell you everything.There is an important difference
there.

The largest problem that I have noticed is that there is a noticable chunk (not majority, but enough to be aware of) of people on these forums that are incapable of seeing anything other than black and white as to choices and motivations in game or other forms of media, when human morality is almost always certainly grey. You name me a good person and I bet you there is a time in their life they were a bastard, yet people seem to think that one moment of being a bastard sums up the character completely. I mean hell, the desire demon in the circle tower, the Demon flat out tells you she is going to drain the guys soul and then move on to a new target, and if you let her go with her little soul-juicebox Leliana approves. They made it painfully obvious there isn't a single character in the game that can be painted as a Saint or Demon (except, y'know, redundancy like demons).

The fact that Morrigan may have been up to something less than supercalifragilisticexpialocious (did I just date myself as closing in on the downward slope to my late 20s by using a Mary Poppins reference?!), but that doesn't degrade or negate the relationship with the Warden. If she was truly underhanded she wouldn't have said anything and just slinked off after the battle.

Augh, it just drives me crazy, like overreliance on internet buzzwords and people who go down my checklist for why DA2 shouldn't have any continuation.

[Giggles_Manically]

To me she just seems like she only wants the OG. If she wont tell me what is up, and to add to it dosent tell me about it for over a year so she has a better chance at it. Well that just shows where she puts her values, and they override the blight or the warden. But whatevs I cant get through her whole surival/self-centered world view but thats just me. I only have one warden who fully romanced her.



You may be right that I can only see it through a bad lens and that sours the whole thing, but I cant see it as tragic , that goes to Vicionia's romance. With Morrigan it seems much more like an exploitation, than a sad duty. Not that it matters I only did the DR RP wise to make stories more interseting since doing an all super good game is boring.

[ximena]

@Giggles

Perhaps you should empty you cup first? I don't know. I get the feeling you've already had a negative view on Morri the first time she appears (and we know she already tends to get mean). With Morrigan, you really have to dig that shell of hers before knowing that there might still be that remnant of that little girl who stole that mirror. Morrigan has this side of her the game only hints. And it takes a lot to see that. (This is just a suggestion. XD I'm not forcing you to change your views on Morri)

And absolutely no insult taken regarding the fan comic for your earlier post.

Modifié par ximena, 04 juillet 2010 - 05:05 .

[Brockololly]

Swoo wrote...

The largest problem that I have noticed is that there is a noticable chunk (not majority, but enough to be aware of) of people on these forums that are incapable of seeing anything other than black and white as to choices and motivations in game or other forms of media, when human morality is almost always certainly grey.

Right on. Seems like some people like to make their first impression of someone or something as "GOOD!" or "BAD!" and everything that happens after that first impression is just mentally molded to fit into that definition. I'd say that morality wise in the world of DA you've got things that run the spectrum from true evil to morally grey to true good. Hell, I think there is a reason you're a GREY Warden, not a White knight paladin. The whole moral ambiguity in the characters and choices is the entire point behind DA. Sadly this goes over the heads of some it seems.

Swoo wrote...

The fact that Morrigan may have been up to something less than supercalifragilisticexpialocious (did I just date myself as closing in on the downward slope to my late 20s by using a Mary Poppins reference?!)...

Mary Poppins FTW!

Giggles_Manically wrote...

To me she just seems like she only wants the OG. If she wont tell me what is up, and to add to it dosent tell me about it for over a year so she has a better chance at it. Well that just shows where she puts her values, and they override the blight or the warden. But whatevs I cant get through her whole surival/self-centered world view but thats just me. I only have one warden who fully romanced her.

Well thats the thing- from what we know, Morrigan's goal in Origins is to only get the OGB. Her falling in love with the Warden was not part of the plan and is why she gets all moody and such when you romance her. She knows the danger of the Blight and wants to help the Warden stop it but she also has big plans for the OGB; plans which we don't know the depth of at this time. The lack of info on the OGB is as much MOrrigan though as it is the writers keeping their cards close to their vest and is one of the reasons the DR scene sucks.  If you want to think that Morrigan not divulging every scrap of info to your PC makes her an evil self centered witch beyond redemption, go ahead.

I don't think you can be so quick to judge Morrigan's motivations regarding the OGB though. We have no idea what she may have planned. Yeah she is driven by power to aid in her survival but how the OGB fits into that is a mystery- for all we know its the key to stopping the Blights forever? Or something else; we have no clue and thats the way the writers wanted to do it.

Giggles_Manically wrote...
You may be right that I can only see it through a bad lens and that sours the whole thing, but I cant seeit as tragic , that goes to Vicionia's romance. With Morrigan it seems much more like an exploitation, than a sad duty. Not that it matters I only did the DR RP wise to make stories more interseting since doing an all super good game is boring.

Its hard to close the book and label Morrigan's romance as anything definitively when we don't know for sure yet if its totally over. Maybe her having the OGB is some "sad duty"- if you romance her it clearly pains her to have to leave the Warden behind and she brings up destiny and fate a lot then. I just think its myopic at this point to be definitively putting labels on Morrigan and the OGB plans when its a pretty good bet we'll learn more about her motivations in the future.

Modifié par Brockololly, 04 juillet 2010 - 05:51 .

[Ash Wind]

Swoo wrote...

Ash Wind wrote...
Can they make it cannon? I guess they can do whatever they want, but it would take away from the Ultimate Sacrifice ending if you sacrifice yourself, and yet Morrigan still walks away impregnated with a child bourn with the soul of an OG.

Sure they can, they have much smarter writers than me working for them and even I can see the loophole of the 'You just recieved the best option, not the only option.' I guess it could come down to semantics, but if the Warden refuses, dies, and an OGB is still born somehow I don't think that lessens the impact of their ending whatsoever. You didn't totally close down the door on Morrigan or Flemeth or anyone elses plans by refusing the DR, you just refused the DR itself. If they found another way to get what they want that didn't neccisarily have to include you in the option, well, that's life. One answer hardly ever covers all the bases.

lol... It was more of a rhetorical question, because it is beyond obvious that they can do it, they can do whatever they want.

However, there is a difference between doing it, and pulling it off. The US is not my favorite ending, but it has a charm all its own. It might not take away from the heroic pride of the US, in-game, however, where not just talking ‘in-game.’

Simply being able to import an Ultimate Sacrifice character into Awakening doesn’t take away from that feeling, in-game… and still the very fact that you could caused an uproar among the ardent fans of the US ending. A major complaint, as I recall, was that it completely invalidated the US ending. You can bet dollars to donuts they would just as vehemently protest a canonized BOG. 

It would be interesting to see raw data on how the gamers usually end the game, US or some variation of the DR. If the US outnumbers the DR by some obscene number, BW would have to take this into account when planning the sequel. They would have to ask, will canonizing the BOG ****** people off enough so they wouldn’t purchase the next game. Given the vitriol aimed toward Morrigan on some of the forums, that might be a possibility as it seems there is a faction out there that usually does the US, if only to deny Morrigan what she wanted.

No, the customer isn't always right... but they're not always wrong either.

[Ash Wind]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

To me she just seems like she only wants the OG. If she wont tell me what is up, and to add to it dosent tell me about it for over a year so she has a better chance at it. Well that just shows where she puts her values, and they override the blight or the warden. But whatevs I cant get through her whole surival/self-centered world view but thats just me. I only have one warden who fully romanced her.

You may be right that I can only see it through a bad lens and that sours the whole thing, but I cant see it as tragic , that goes to Vicionia's romance. With Morrigan it seems much more like an exploitation, than a sad duty. Not that it matters I only did the DR RP wise to make stories more interseting since doing an all super good game is boring.

Yes, you are correct, especially in the beginning, all Morrigan wants is the OG. Its the plan. Now, part of the problem is we don't know what the Plan is. The fact that it could be something great, something mildly ok, or something very, very bad is part of the fun. 

She tells you herself she was foolish to fall in love with you, but she has a mission that is important to her... more important to her than yours or hers happiness. So she could still be in love with you and still have to leave to do what it is that she must do. I don't think they have to be mutually exclusive.

Is it tragic? Well, I can see that it is in a sense. As she says at the Gates of Denerim, if you both were other people and it was a different time, things could have been different. There is a certain tragedy in an ill-timed love story.  However,  I believe there will be a direct continuance in DA:2 so I don't think that love story is over yet.

It may turn tragic. Right now... its like the first break up, lets see what happens the next time you meet her, for I am confident you will. 

[ximena]

Ash Wind wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

To me she just seems like she only wants the OG. If she wont tell me what is up, and to add to it dosent tell me about it for over a year so she has a better chance at it. Well that just shows where she puts her values, and they override the blight or the warden. But whatevs I cant get through her whole surival/self-centered world view but thats just me. I only have one warden who fully romanced her.

You may be right that I can only see it through a bad lens and that sours the whole thing, but I cant see it as tragic , that goes to Vicionia's romance. With Morrigan it seems much more like an exploitation, than a sad duty. Not that it matters I only did the DR RP wise to make stories more interseting since doing an all super good game is boring.

Yes, you are correct, especially in the beginning, all Morrigan wants is the OG. Its the plan. Now, part of the problem is we don't know what the Plan is. The fact that it could be something great, something mildly ok, or something very, very bad is part of the fun. 

She tells you herself she was foolish to fall in love with you, but she has a mission that is important to her... more important to her than yours or hers happiness. So she could still be in love with you and still have to leave to do what it is that she must do. I don't think they have to be mutually exclusive.

Is it tragic? Well, I can see that it is in a sense. As she says at the Gates of Denerim, if you both were other people and it was a different time, things could have been different. There is a certain tragedy in an ill-timed love story.  However,  I believe there will be a direct continuance in DA:2 so I don't think that love story is over yet.

It may turn tragic. Right now... its like the first break up, lets see what happens the next time you meet her, for I am confident you will. 

Morrigan: There is far more that I could have done for you... had this been a different time and we, different people. Allow me to say only one thing before I go: I was foolish. This could have been so much easier, yet I cannot regret what was between us. I will always remember you, my love.



Yep. Easily one of my favorite lines from the game. XD

[Ash Wind]

dream_operator23 wrote...

Actually, I made a thread about loving the US ending and it seems that most people prefer the DR ending regardless of whether they like Morrigan or not. Giggles_Manically made a poll about people's favorite ending and the last I checked the DR ending was winning by a large number. I feel so alone in loving the US ending sometimes. Still I think most people like the DR ending the most and probably because it leads to more story for their Wardens.

The US was a very good ending. It was done very well in the game. Though I would have to side with those who do the DR, for the simple fact that your characters get to live and continue their adventures. Though, I am usually weary that I might be making a deal with the devil to do so.
 
I would have thought the US ending would have had a better showing. Though, its hard to tell how indicative the polls are as a whole with 253 votes (first ending) and 258 votes (favorite ending) responding out of 3.2 million players.

Seemed like there was a lot more Morrigan hate out there, but maybe that was just my impression.

[Ash Wind]

ximena wrote...

Ash Wind wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

To me she just seems like she only wants the OG. If she wont tell me what is up, and to add to it dosent tell me about it for over a year so she has a better chance at it. Well that just shows where she puts her values, and they override the blight or the warden. But whatevs I cant get through her whole surival/self-centered world view but thats just me. I only have one warden who fully romanced her.

You may be right that I can only see it through a bad lens and that sours the whole thing, but I cant see it as tragic , that goes to Vicionia's romance. With Morrigan it seems much more like an exploitation, than a sad duty. Not that it matters I only did the DR RP wise to make stories more interseting since doing an all super good game is boring.

Yes, you are correct, especially in the beginning, all Morrigan wants is the OG. Its the plan. Now, part of the problem is we don't know what the Plan is. The fact that it could be something great, something mildly ok, or something very, very bad is part of the fun. 

She tells you herself she was foolish to fall in love with you, but she has a mission that is important to her... more important to her than yours or hers happiness. So she could still be in love with you and still have to leave to do what it is that she must do. I don't think they have to be mutually exclusive.

Is it tragic? Well, I can see that it is in a sense. As she says at the Gates of Denerim, if you both were other people and it was a different time, things could have been different. There is a certain tragedy in an ill-timed love story.  However,  I believe there will be a direct continuance in DA:2 so I don't think that love story is over yet.

It may turn tragic. Right now... its like the first break up, lets see what happens the next time you meet her, for I am confident you will. 

Morrigan: There is far more that I could have done for you... had this been a different time and we, different people. Allow me to say only one thing before I go: I was foolish. This could have been so much easier, yet I cannot regret what was between us. I will always remember you, my love.



Yep. Easily one of my favorite lines from the game. XD

It is a very good line... and its delivered perfectly... and the repeated change in facial expressions... like she was fighting herself... normal... sad.... normal... sad.

[ximena]

Okay. That Morrigan Orlesian court mage version drawing is done. Click the thumbnail~

[Swoo]

Awesome work like always! You might have to do more alternate takes from time to time, it's interesting to see what could have been.

[ximena]

Yes. And it's fun thinking of what could have been. Though what are the other instances? Morri with a non-OGB child? I'm always open for alternate takes request. XD

[Swoo]

ximena wrote...

Yes. And it's fun thinking of what could have been. Though what are the other instances? Morri with a non-OGB child? I'm always open for alternate takes request. XD

Well, the 'Im in it for the lulz' Morrigan from the Darkspawn Chronicles alternate take could be fun to see. I'm sure some kind of jokey picture could come of laughs over Alistair, be a break from DW to do something silly I'd suppose.

And there's always MorrixMage! 

[ximena]

Lawl. XD MorrixMage pic is still on the works. And oh hmm. I'd think of something. >D

[Master Shiori]

ximena wrote...

Okay. That Morrigan Orlesian court mage version drawing is done. Click the thumbnail~

I'll just repost what I already wrote on your DeviantART page.

You managed to make her look both elegant and exotic by combining the elements of her original outfit with more more fashionable clothing.

Awesome work!


As for what else to draw, well that is a bit tricky.

I suppose some scene from Morrigan's younger days could work. Like when she visits villages outside the Wilds and is first exposed to civilization and people or maybe when she steals the mirror and runs back to the Wilds only for Flemeth to smash it on the ground.
That last one would be quite emotional.

Also, you can always try and draw scenes from the game involving Edric and Morri. Like their first meeting in the ruined Warden tower in the Wilds, when he returns from Flemeth's hut with her real grimoire, when she gives him her ring or when he gives her the golden mirror.

These are just the things off the top of my head.

[ximena]

Master Shiori wrote...



I suppose some scene from Morrigan's younger days could work. Like when she visits villages outside the Wilds and is first exposed to civilization and people or maybe when she steals the mirror and runs back to the Wilds only for Flemeth to smash it on the ground.
That last one would be quite emotional.

Also, you can always try and draw scenes from the game involving Edric and Morri. Like their first meeting in the ruined Warden tower in the Wilds, when he returns from Flemeth's hut with her real grimoire, when she gives him her ring or when he gives her the golden mirror.

These are just the things off the top of my head.

Ooooh. Good idea. I suppose I could add Morri in her younger years  to the long list of things I want to draw. (If you're wondering, the list is indeed long. And there's even some Morrigan and Leliana catfight. lol)

And for those DAO Morri and Edric moments, I'm planning to incorporate it into another comic which is tied in with DW. 

[KnightofPhoenix]

*been thinking* What name do you think Morrigan would give her OGB? Like, what name sounds like a very Morrigan thing. Assuming she doesn't name the kid Urthemiel.

[ximena]

Hmmm. Now that's something to think about indeed. I figure she'd name the child something that means ancient,/powerfu/beautiful. Maybe I'll take a look at some baby names later and see what is fitting.

EDIT: Do you guys think she'd name her child Urthemiel? I think not. Wouldn't that attract attention? XD


(As for the Morrigan in DW, she named her child Ellyn as a nod to Edric. It's a variation of Eleanor.)

Modifié par ximena, 04 juillet 2010 - 10:33 .

[Master Shiori]

Not sure how she'd name it.



I imagine she could name me after the Warden as to honor the child's father or her best friend.



Otherwise, I agree with Ximena. She'd probably give it a name associated with power, but probably not beauty, since she considers beauty to be fleeting and have no meaning.



@Ximena



That catfight idea between Leliana and Morri sounds great. Can't wait to see you draw that (I'm especially eager to see you draw Leliana).

On that note, was Leliana interested in Edric or was Morri the only one who had feelings for him? Guess I'm wondering if there was an actual catfight in your game between those two?



The thing I'm really curious about now is how Morrigan and Edric reacted to each other when they first met, but before their relationship blossomed into a romance. Was there a mutual attraction right from the start or did that develope over time? It would be great to see what Morri thoughts of him in the beginning and how her opinion changed over time.

[ximena]

Master Shiori wrote...

Not sure how she'd name it.

I imagine she could name me after the Warden as to honor the child's father or her best friend.

Otherwise, I agree with Ximena. She'd probably give it a name associated with power, but probably not beauty, since she considers beauty to be fleeting and have no meaning.

@Ximena

That catfight idea between Leliana and Morri sounds great. Can't wait to see you draw that (I'm especially eager to see you draw Leliana).
On that note, was Leliana interested in Edric or was Morri the only one who had feelings for him? Guess I'm wondering if there was an actual catfight in your game between those two?

The thing I'm really curious about now is how Morrigan and Edric reacted to each other when they first met, but before their relationship blossomed into a romance. Was there a mutual attraction right from the start or did that develope over time? It would be great to see what Morri thoughts of him in the beginning and how her opinion changed over time.

Haha. Now I'm snickering over the catfight idea. XD Actually, Leliana was interested on Edric, but he was busy with Morri. In game though, it was really hilarious. Leliana hit the Love marker after I did the Marjolaine quest and she started telling Edric how much she loved him.  When he comes back to talk to Morri later, she starts the me or her conversation. And Edric didn't even initiate anything romantic with Leli. 

And the catfight ensues. 

As for the first stages of their relationship, you'd have to wait and see.

Oh god. Things are piling up on my list of to-do works. XD

Modifié par ximena, 04 juillet 2010 - 11:29 .