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[blademaster7]

Addai67 wrote...

So what do you think the Guardian would have asked Morrigan about in the Gauntlet if she hadn't cut him off?

The Guardian was asking for regrets. He saw something in her past but respected her decision to remain silent(she's an expert  at doing that<_<)

I wish I could go back and ask him. And while I'm at it, take another  pinch of ashes for my self. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

Modifié par blademaster7, 09 avril 2010 - 06:59 .

[Sabriana]

Well, Blade. Just pretend you licked your finger clean after taking the pinch for Eamon.

[Shade of Wolf]

Sabriana wrote...

Well, Blade. Just pretend you licked your finger clean after taking the pinch for Eamon.

Lol to that.

[Master Shiori]

Too bad there wasn't the option of keeping some of the ashes.



Just in case...

[Echinsu_Ocha]

Still not acknowledged or addressed?

[Master Shiori]

Echinsu_Ocha wrote...

Still not acknowledged or addressed?

It was acknowledged as far as I know.

There's just no indication they plan to do something about it.

[Sabriana]

Yeh, and Ejo says that the problem is in Awakenings and the modders can't do nothing until the toolset gets updated. And as usual, console players are SOL again. Bummer.

I better play my dalish real slow. I don't want to do all these contortions, I want Morrigan "still in love" and not having to shove the mirror at her again. Bleh.

[ejoslin]

No fears, Morrigan will be "still in love." It just doesn't really make a difference in awakening.

And people, seriously, do not hold your breath. Here are issues with the Zevran romance that have been around since before launch, so more than a couple of patches ago:

1. Bugged Epilogue card for male wardens
2. Zevran gives the wrong dialog at the city gates (if he's in love, he gives the friendly dialog, and if he's friendly, he gives the warm dialog)
3. Under certain circumstances, when Zevran gives his earring, it doesn't show up in the player's inventory (when it's a proposal)
4. With a pivotal conversation, it's suppose to launch only in camp and the staging is such that if it triggers anywhere else, it causes a glitched screen requiring a reload -- and of course, it can trigger anywhere.

Then there are a lot more little bugs with companion conversations regarding him, including loops, selections appearing at improper approval ratings, etc.

I gave up waiting for BW to fix them. They know about them, they just don't care.

Edit: If the toolset is ever updated so that people can access the database for Awakening, the problem with Morrigan I'm sure will be addressed by modders.  

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 01:53 .

[Shade of Wolf]

ejoslin wrote...


Edit: If the toolset is ever updated so that people can access the database for Awakening, the problem with Morrigan I'm sure will be addressed by modders.  

That's ok for PC users, not console users but I have no doubt that the modders will fix it before Bioware, or I'll be damned.

[Shade of Wolf]

ejoslin wrote...


And people, seriously, do not hold your breath. Here are issues with the Zevran romance that have been around since before launch, so more than a couple of patches ago.

Tell me about, it I was trying to seduce Zevran, factum gratia (for the sake of achievement), and I had to revert to a really early save to get the achievement, and I didn't ever get the earring.
And lol, some very weird glitches with Alistair:
1. The love scene in the camp replayed over, and over, and over, and over, and over again with my dwarf noble.
2. He calls my MALE elf mage ''My love'' and 'tis very disturbing
Lolz, amusing as it is, its still a bug.
Love Bugs

[ejoslin]

Shade of Wolf wrote...

ejoslin wrote...


And people, seriously, do not hold your breath. Here are issues with the Zevran romance that have been around since before launch, so more than a couple of patches ago.

Tell me about, it I was trying to seduce Zevran, factum gratia (for the sake of achievement), and I had to revert to a really early save to get the achievement, and I didn't ever get the earring.
And lol, some very weird glitches with Alistair:
1. The love scene in the camp replayed over, and over, and over, and over, and over again with my dwarf noble.
2. He calls my MALE elf mage ''My love'' and 'tis very disturbing
Lolz, amusing as it is, its still a bug.
Love Bugs

Oh, the Zevran romance doesn't finish until later in the game.  You don't get the earring (and possibly proposal) until after the landsmeet is called.

The bug when selecting a character is well known, and not addressed at all.  It happens when anyone is at 100 friendly and romance-able.  I looked at the scripts a bit, but you know, that's one that would be more hassle than it's worth to fix.  The sex scene sounds like you glitched -- it's not a common issue.

Charsen did fix the earring bug (and improved the scene to include an actual wearable earring), and I fixed the others plus a lot more so I can safely say that it would not be much work to fix this stuff.  The fact that in three patches they have not says a lot to me.

I do feel bad for people on consoles.

[Sabriana]

Here's a present for the Morrigan crowd as a consolation for all the stuff they have to suffer:


It's titled:
Don't you dare die on me


By the great Aimo found on Deviant Art

[blademaster7]

I wasn't even aware so many bugs existed. How long have they been working on DAO? Five years?

The beta testers need to be fired. Pronto.

I can't believe I voted for Bioware in that silly competition. The devs came down to the forums and requested the support of "their community". Fix your goddamn games first.

When was the last time they answered to the "community" about legitimate concerns? Here I thought Bioware was a serious company.

[Master Shiori]

Sabriana wrote...

Here's a present for the Morrigan crowd as a consolation for all the stuff they have to suffer:


It's titled:
Don't you dare die on me


By the great Aimo found on Deviant Art

Thank you posting that Sabriana.

It's always wonderful to see Aimo's work.

Also, don't worry about your Dalish and Morrigan.
As long as you don't talk to Morrigan after the farewell speech at Denerim Gates, she should be flagged as "love" when you import your character into Awakening. That should give you the apropriate Awakening epilogue for Morrigan, but you'll miss on the ring epilogue in Origins.

[blademaster7]

Aimo's work is fantastic... though I wonder how would Gaider portray it?

Morrigan: Don't you dare die on me.
Wynne: My, my. You do care after all.
Morrigan: I.. I... am not eager to let Alistair take over. That is all.

just kidding

[Addai]

blademaster7 wrote...

The Guardian was asking for regrets. He saw something in her past but respected her decision to remain silent(she's an expert  at doing that<_<)

I was wondering if it would be something regarding joining the Wardens under false pretenses, or if it would be something more related to her childhood.

I always wonder who Morri's real parents are.  She must have been Chasind.  Or maybe she was cast out as a mage child.

[Master Shiori]

blademaster7 wrote...

I wasn't even aware so many bugs existed. How long have they been working on DAO? Five years?

The beta testers need to be fired. Pronto.

I can't believe I voted for Bioware in that silly competition. The devs came down to the forums and requested the support of "their community". Fix your goddamn games first.

When was the last time they answered to the "community" about legitimate concerns? Here I thought Bioware was a serious company.

Truth be told us Morrigan fans got it easy when compared to all the problems with Zevran's romance.

I'm currently in the process of romancing him with my human female noble rogue and can only pray things turn out ok.

As for general bugs in DA:O, there does seem to be a long list of things that are in need of fixing.
Some of these things (like loading times) got looked into in the last patch, while others are still on "to do" list.

[ejoslin]

blademaster7 wrote...

I wasn't even aware so many bugs existed. How long have they been working on DAO? Five years?

The beta testers need to be fired. Pronto.

I can't believe I voted for Bioware in that silly competition. The devs came down to the forums and requested the support of "their community". Fix your goddamn games first.

When was the last time they answered to the "community" about legitimate concerns? Here I thought Bioware was a serious company.

I didn't even get into the bug that happens to a City Elf that when you go back to the Alienage with your romance partner, it has ALISTAIR asking about your betrothal instead of your romance partner, and if Ali isn't in the party, it gives a glitched screen.  Plus the female warden romancing Zevran dialog options were messed up.  Yes, I fixed it, and it works for Morrigan as well (yes, there's a line in there of hers you've probably never heard).

*grin* Give me an inch when it comes to ranting, I'll take a mile.  I did all this for FREE, but it only helps PC users.  People on the consoles are SOL 

Edit: It's sad that the people who were paid to do this didn't!

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 03:28 .

[blademaster7]

Addai67 wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...

The  Guardian was asking for regrets. He saw something in her past but  respected her decision to remain silent(she's an expert  at doing that../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png)

I was wondering if it would be something regarding joining the Wardens  under false pretenses, or if it would be something more related to her  childhood.

I always wonder who Morri's real parents are.  She must have been Chasind.  Or maybe she was cast out as a mage  child.

But Morrigan doesn't even know if Flemeth is her real mother or not.

Anyway, I don't think that was supposed to be a big deal. It's a way for the writers to make you say "oh, she's hiding
something".

There is probably nothing more to that, but that's just me.

ejoslin wrote...
I didn't even get into the bug that happens to a City Elf that when you go back to the Alienage with your romance partner, it has ALISTAIR asking about your betrothal instead of your romance partner, and if Ali isn't in the party, it gives a glitched screen.  Plus the female warden romancing Zevran dialog options were messed up.  Yes, I fixed it, and it works for Morrigan as well (yes, there's a line in there of hers you've probably never heard).

*grin* Give me an inch when it comes to ranting, I'll take a mile.  I did all this for FREE, but it only helps PC users.  People on the consoles are SOL 

I tried playing as a female City Elf once but didn't get that far.

I heard Zevran's "friendly" speech at the gates is also bugged. Is it true? What does he say other than "the archdemon never writes anymore".

Modifié par blademaster7, 09 avril 2010 - 03:31 .

[Addai]

Aimo's work really is amazing. I don't usually care for comic-style art, but hers is quite expressive.

[ejoslin]

blademaster7 wrote...

I tried playing as a female City Elf once but didn't get that far.

I heard Zevran's "friendly" speech at the gates is also bugged. Is it true? What does he say other than "the archdemon never writes anymore".

Heh, he's SUPPOSED to tell a friend, "By your side, I'd storm the dark city itself.  Do not doubt it."  Or a few other things, depending on how you answer.  Or if you leave him, "In truth, for a good friend such as yourself, I'd storm the dark city itself. Never doubt it."

Well, before I fixed it, the love interest was getting the friendly dialog if you took him, and getting a bugged variant of the love dialog if you left him behind (you did get the right dialog, but the friendly dialog choices were in there as well).  The problem was two-fold, one I was able to fix, one I was able to work around, now the scene works as intended, minus the kisses that are supposed to be in there (Charsen is adding those).

And Zevran fans who know about this are very happy to get the correct dialog now.  But ugh!

Edit: And the bug was there for male and female city elves.

Second edit: My fix for the Zevran gates dialog also fixes the friendly dialog.  You got the dialog that was supposed to go to a "warm" warden.  And a ton of other stuff (Alistair's endgame dialog and scripts are also really bad).

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 03:42 .

[Sabriana]

Yes, Aimo is a great artist, I wholeheartedly agree.

I don't think even Gaider could pull that one, Blade. You should see the full size one. The expression on her face leaves no doubt about her feelings, at least not for me. She looks upset and worried.

Your welcome, Master Shiori

[blademaster7]

Damn! I knew there was something more to Zevran. I always max his approval as a friend and all he ever says is "say hello to the archdemon for me"

And kisses... argh... I wonder if Leliana has a kiss scene as well. Her dialogue seems to be correct.

EDIT: The dialogues also seem to be different if you didn't accept Morrigan's offer. In Alistair's case at least.

Modifié par blademaster7, 09 avril 2010 - 04:00 .

[Master Shiori]

I think only Alistair's dialog changes if you refuse Morrigan's offer.



I only refused the Dark Ritual once though, so I could be wrong.

[ejoslin]

blademaster7 wrote...

Damn! I knew there was something more to Zevran. I always max his approval as a friend and all he ever says is "say hello to the archdemon for me"

And kisses... argh... I wonder if Leliana has a kiss scene as well. Her dialogue seems to be correct.

EDIT: The dialogues also seem to be different if you didn't accept Morrigan's offer. In Alistair's case at least.

They are different.  And no, there are no kisses mentioned for either Leliana or Morrigan, just Alistair and Zevran, and Zevran is the only one who gives them no matter what the Warden responds as long as he's in love.

However, even though getting the kisses in is FAR more difficult than it should be (I still haven't figured it out, though Charsen did), if I do either figure it out or understand any instructions Charsen gives me, there are places where it would be appropriate for both Lel and Morrigan to give them.

Edit: The dialogs ARE different with Alistair whether or not the dark ritual is done, whether he's king or not, whether he knows about the dark ritual or not, whether he's still in love or in love or a friend.  His choices there are pretty complex, actually.  AND I think working as intended now   with help!

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 04:07 .