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[ximena]

Indeed, Brock. Indeed. The line about DA having a lot of stories makes me already think Hawke is already a one-time game thing too. XD

[adneate]

It's not Baldur's Gate it's Neverwinter Nights then. Fantastic.

[Swoo]

ximena wrote...

Indeed, Brock. Indeed. The line about DA having a lot of stories makes me already think Hawke is already a one-time game thing too. XD

Yep. This is the North American Final Fantasy franchise. There is nothing Baldur's Gate about Dragon Age, BG was all about the characters and how they grew and came together and one man's destiny. Dragon Age is story of the week material like the JRPG franchises.

[Terra_Ex]

Brockololly wrote...

FWIW, Game Informer has their DA2 hub up: http://gameinformer....dragonage2.aspx

Seems like they're giving the ol' middle finger to Baldur's Gate.... *sigh*

Oh joy, the NWN route it is, it is after all considered BW's crowning glory, is it not. Amusing how quick they are to distance DA from BG when it no longer suits their purpose...

I don't know, is Gaider's latest taunt referencing a final  ex-pack then. Were we still in the good old days of the Infinity Engine, I could sit back in anticipation of a final expansion pack, comfortable in the knowledge that it'd meet my expectations. As it stands, this is not possible. As Gaider is fond of reminding us, you've only got the game in front of you to go off and applying this to what we got in Awakening I really can't see a TOB quality expansion wrapping up the warden's story, especially when logic dictates that the majority of resources would be spent on DA2.

Nice rants on the previous pages

[ximena]

Swoo wrote...

ximena wrote...

Indeed, Brock. Indeed. The line about DA having a lot of stories makes me already think Hawke is already a one-time game thing too. XD

Yep. This is the North American Final Fantasy franchise. There is nothing Baldur's Gate about Dragon Age, BG was all about the characters and how they grew and came together and one man's destiny. Dragon Age is story of the week material like the JRPG franchises.

At least FF has endings with closure. >_>

[Swoo]

Terra_Ex wrote...
Nice rants on the previous pages

The bad part is I am sitting here waiting, praying, they win me over in the next few reveals for the game. When Bioware gets a game right nobody can touch them on RPGs, so I am hoping all these misgivings I'm having already and the horrible edgy PR that screams 'We are so cool' just a little too hard is going to pass and we'll get some good, solid Holy **** information coming our way.

But Gaider, O'Gaider, always have to twist the knife. Even when we thought we were down and out.

[Master Shiori]

I'll just add a few of my own thoughts before we go down the "doom and gloom" route completely.

1) new pc

This is probably the hardest part for me to swallow and also for lots of other people as well. Right now we have no explanation as to why we had to ditch our old Warden away, especially since the cover to Gameinformer seems to show we'll be fighting darkspawn again. Maybe there actually is a very valid reason for introducing Hawke as the new pc. Until they reveal more about him, the time period and the overall story we won't know. Right now, due to lack of information, it's very easy to come to the conclussion that Bioware ditched the Warden because they couldn't be bothered to continue the story from Origins and Awakening and that our decisions and choices in those games won't matter.

The truth may be the exact opposite, but we won't know until they reveal more.


2) new combat system (whole "fight as a spartan stuff")

So, who wants to tell me what this means exactly?
And I don't mean speculate, but truly explain how the system is going to work based on this one line?

Nobody can, because once again the info is very vague. It could mean anything from combat being changed to an action based game to keeping the old combat system but improving it so it's more fluid and effective.
Bioware already established what we should expect from Dragon Age with Origins. They know this is what every future game in the series is going to measure against. That's why the whole "spiritual successor to BG series" line is no longer needed. DA has, from it's beginning, been marketed as a "going back to Bioware's roots", and as such was never meant to appeal to more action oriented fans that love ME. While it will naturaly try to attract as wide a range of consumers as possible it has to stay true to what people have come to expect from it based on Origins. Not doing that would result in the loss of dedicated fanbase, which a new game series cannot afford.

3) time period for DA2

Gaider confirmed it's taking place during the Dragon Age itself, so we can safely assume that Hawke is the survivor of the recent Blight which we stopped in Origins.

4) This is the most important story in DA world

Now here's a real shocker (/sarcasm)

Every story is "the most important" one for the time period in which it takes place in. This line is nothing more than a marketing gimic. After all, who's going to market the game by saying "embark on a new adventure with a brand new pc, in a new land and with new companions that will take place x years after the epic events in DA:O"? Not many, since it would appear the new game is simply something to keep you interested in DA and to grab your money.
Every new DA titles will be marketed as the greatest story yet with world changing consequences. Origins and Awakening could both be described as such. We did some truly epic things there that could easily leave a mark on the world for years to come: resolving the civil war in Ferelden and choosing it's next king/queen, stopping the blight and becoming the first GW to kill an Archdemon and survive to tell about it, possibly bring back an Old God into the world, spare the Architect and help him free the darkspawn from the call of the Old Gods, etc. Those decisions are all epic. DA2 might truly be the greatest story ever told in DA (which I honestly doubt, since what would be the apppeal of future titles then?), or it might be a story that changes the world much like Origins did and thus opens the way for even greater things in the future. All I can say for sure is that, as a Bioware game, it's story will be great and most likely worth the money.

I'll write off everything else as a marketing hype.


5) the white haired woman on the cover

The fact that she's featured on the cover alongside the main protagonist seems to suggest she'll be a very important character in DA2.

We have already established that she shares many similarities with Morrigan in looks and manner of dress.

This could make her:

1) Morrigan herself, but older

2) Morrigan possessed by Flemeth

3) Morrigan's daughter (unlikely since the game isn't supposed to take place that far after DA:O)

None of these things would really come across as a shock.


However, I have another theory based on the resemblance between her and Morri.

What if she's Morrigan's actual biological mother?

We now from Origins that Morrigan's strange eye color could easily be the result of physical chnages from drinking dragon's blood. We also know that in order to learn to shapeshift into a new form you need to study that creature and possibly live with it.

What if Morrigan's mother was a high ranking priestess of a dragon cult which possibly revered the Old Gods and dragons? This would mean she would be drinking dragon blood on regular basis which could transform her into something between a human and a dragon. She could pass these features on to Morrigan after she was born.

Flemeth could have joined such a cult for a time in order to discover secrets of the Old Gods. This is where she would have found out the details about the DR and could have stolen them along with baby Morrigan, to be raised as her own daughter.

This could easily be far fetched theory on my part, but I feel it could stand based on what we know abot Flemeth, Morrigan and dragon cults.

It would also be truly shocking to have an ancient human/dragon hybrid in your party, who also happens to be a priestess/sorceress of an ancient religious cult and a mother of your previous companion/lover from Origins.

[ximena]

Master Shiori wrote...



However, I have another theory based on the resemblance between her and Morri.

What if she's Morrigan's actual biological mother?

We now from Origins that Morrigan's strange eye color could easily be the result of physical chnages from drinking dragon's blood. We also know that in order to learn to shapeshift into a new form you need to study that creature and possibly live with it.

What if Morrigan's mother was a high ranking priestess of a dragon cult which possibly revered the Old Gods and dragons? This would mean she would be drinking dragon blood on regular basis which could transform her into something between a human and a dragon. She could pass these features on to Morrigan after she was born.

Flemeth could have joined such a cult for a time in order to discover secrets of the Old Gods. This is where she would have found out the details about the DR and could have stolen them along with baby Morrigan, to be raised as her own daughter.

This could easily be far fetched theory on my part, but I feel it could stand based on what we know abot Flemeth, Morrigan and dragon cults.

It would also be truly shocking to have an ancient human/dragon hybrid in your party, who also happens to be a priestess/sorceress of an ancient religious cult and a mother of your previous companion/lover from Origins.

This. I actually like this theory. I have a feeling the white mage isn't Morri unless for some reason she suddenly ages fast. Plus it won't be "shocking" as Priestly says if it's her.

What would make me happy though would be a sighting of Morri in DA2 (perhaps with The Warden travelling with her) if the white-haired mage isn't Morri. XD (yep. I'm trying... TRYING to be optimistic.)

[KnightofPhoenix]

@ MasterShiori

About the new combat system, this talks about it a bit:
http://news.ea.com/p...365&newsLang=en

No, it doesn't confirm or reveal anything. But "revolutonise" kind of implies a huge change. And the focus on "action" is unnerving.

Perhaps it's all marketing BS talk, but I would apreciate a clarification asap, because I am worried this is the direction they are taking.

[blademaster7]

Do you guys think they can still wrap up the story of our Wardens with DLC?

That's the only think I care about. Hawke can kiss my Cousland ass.

[ximena]

blademaster7 wrote...

Do you guys think they can still wrap up the story of our Wardens with DLC?

That's the only think I care about. Hawke can kiss my Cousland ass.

Probably. If they do not have plans on continuing The Warden's story in another DA game... though I think they've really decided to keep The Warden within the Origins story and not stretch it beyond.

[Master Shiori]

ximena wrote...

This. I actually like this theory. I have a feeling the white mage isn't Morri unless for some reason she suddenly ages fast. Plus it won't be "shocking" as Priestly says if it's her.

What would make me happy though would be a sighting of Morri in DA2 (perhaps with The Warden travelling with her) if the white-haired mage isn't Morri. XD (yep. I'm trying... TRYING to be optimistic.)

Glad you like it. I think it has merrits.

As for white haired mage being Morrigan, the only problem is that this theory has been brought up in number of topics, yet hasn't been denounced as baseless rumour by the devs (unlike the theory that Hawke is the OGB).

Second, we don't know how old Hawke was during the events of DA:O. He could have been a a very young boy whose parents fled the Blight and sought shelter in the Free Marches.

Third, Priestly is the one who called Bioware Bazzar an epic event and we all know how epic that turned out to be. Therefore there's always the possibility he might be bluffing when he says we'll be shocked.
After all, even if that mage is Morrigan herself, they're not going to confirm it so early. Better to have the fans guessing a bit, even if the answer if obvious.

Modifié par Master Shiori, 09 juillet 2010 - 10:25 .

[blademaster7]

Why the **** did I waste so many hours in a game that has no ending.... WTF bioware? And now they are expecting me to buy their new game? Finish your first game first!

I can't even rant anymore.... I'm just too disappointed [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/sad.png[/smilie]

[MoSa09]

Whoaa, amazing this thread is still alive, as it started four months ago complaining about a still unadressed bug. Love ya guys who share the same passion.



I hope we will learn some more once game informer is out. Wachter said something like that yesterday. Seems they made a deal with Game Informer as them being to first to reveal any news in a ten page special, and BW will keep their own news secret until they have published and follow in secoond.



As for the Witch, hopefully she is someone different than her. Better never see her again than turning her into a villain and meet her again: same feeling for me, different hero who does not know her.



And Gaiders comment: just cryptic as ever, who not read to much into it, though i am sure i will do it myself within the next hour

[Jarlof Seoul]

I'll forgive Bioware for a new character if they can give some resolution to those of use who went with a Morrigan romance + siring child option. That took CRPGs to a new level. I may not even buy DA2 unless I know Morrigan fans would be pleased. Not impressed with ditching the character. I just hope it wasn't because it would have been to hard to import decision from DAO into DA2.

[Master Shiori]

I'll admit that I really don't understand how Morrigan fans can say that they'd rather never see her again unless it's to be reunited with their Warden(s).



I want the resolution to that romance as much as any fan, but I defenitely want to see Morri again in future DA titles. She isn't tied to my character from Origins and has the right to be part of future stories even if the Warden isn't featured in them.



Throwing away such a great character as Morrigan simply because of a romance is silly.



I, for one, would like nothing more then to see her story continue to develope over the course of future games so that she may become a truly important character in DA setting.

[MoSa09]

I try to elaborate why i feel this way, maybe this will shed some light on my feelings (or it might confuse you even more )

I invested incredibly much time in her relationship during my Origins playthrough. I loved every second of it, and i felt extremly proud in those moments when she opened up more and more to my Warden, and i gave myself credit for her changing. To me, there is an intimate linkage of her with my very own Warden.

Now, my greatest fear of DA 2 is giving her a pre determined role (the grey haired witch) where all the things we experienced throughout Origins (the way she was altered by the love of the Warden) does not matter. To me, that would just make me feel like what i did and loved the most about Origins was completely useless, as they gave her a "one personality fits all different origins playthroughs" kind of personality. I just fear that her reappearance in a way like that would ruin how i picture her to be with my Warden.

And i already dread that moment you meet her again. I would want to ask her a thousands questions"
why did you leave me", "did you really loved me", what happened while i felt you thinking about me" and many more while Hawke, not knowing her, would just say "hi stranger". There weould be an incredibly gap between what me, the player, want to say and ask, and Hawke, the player character, is allowed to ask.

I agree she is an amazing character and a shame to be scraped, but at the moment, i have that strange fear that Origins just introduced her character but we didn't influence her at all and DA 2 will just treat her in a very specific way and any other possible chain of events in Origins never happened. And that would just hurt.

And i can't hide the strong feeling of wanting closure, an ending to her romance with my Warden that is experienced WITH my Warden and not just maybe a textbox or dialogue options experienced through the eyes of a new character telling me what happened to the old romance.

Does this make things any clearer or just more confusing?

edit: in other words, a great deal of what made her character that interesting to me is the change you can bring upon her. She is the very first character in a video game that happens to change her personality and her world view due to the unconditional love and actions of the main character. And that fascinationg part of her personality is inevitably linked to the one bringing out this change, and this is the Warden character. And as the Warden is now gone, he as the one who intiates and amages that most interesting part of her personality, that part of her i loved the most is most likely also gone.

Modifié par MoSa09, 09 juillet 2010 - 12:52 .

[blademaster7]

MoSa09 wrote...

Does this make things any clearer or just more confusing?

It's not confusing. It's perfectly clear and it basically describes the feelings of everyone who actually cares about Morrigan.

Props.

[Brockololly]

The thing for me is that I won't mind Morrigan showing up again in a new game. BUt finish the damn story of my poor sap of a Warden searching the ends of the earth for her before you chuck Morrigan into a new tale.

If BioWare doesn't get it that the whole Morrigan and OGB plotline along with the romance is one of the more popular and incomplete aspects of Origins, then I'd lose all faith in them and the people making the high level decisions with Dragon Age.

That said, I do think we'll get some DLC or an ex-pack to wrap things up. And for what its worth Leliana's Song gives me some faith they can make decent DLC. But like Terra mentioned, the Awakening brouhaha has me doubting they can pull off a nice ToB style expansion to try and wrap up loose ends. But DLC and an ex-pack are my new hope for now. Screw Hawke for now, finish the Warden's story 1st.

For the love of God, if BioWare just unceremoniously abandons the Warden, in my view, thats just a big "F*** you" to everyone who bothered to garner any emotional engagement from Origins' story and characters. Treating the story and characters that haphazardly would give me zero faith they wouldn't do the same to any new PC like Hawke once DA3 time rolls around and they have to market the ULTIMATE story of EPIC Thedas Hero #3456.

As for the new visual style, have I said I really hope its not cel shaded? There is this article which claims DA2 will have "Samurai Jack style" visuals. I'm hoping its just conjecture on the author's part because while I'm ok with Samurai Jack, that doesn't work for me in Dragon Age. Not. One. Bit.

As for the Game Informer hub page claiming massive changes to the conversation system, storytelling techniques, combat and overall structure, I really hope BioWare knows what they're doing. With so many changes this could be a huge freakin' disaster.

(Begin Doom & Gloom)

I'm ok with new things but it just seems like they're ditching everything old school about Origins and basically rebooting the franchise. Like they wanted all us old school BG fans to buy into the franchise with DAO and after thats successful they think they have carte blanche to abandon the stuff that made Origins so good. And what worries me is how BioWare implemented changes in their only other recent sequel, ME2. Now they improved the combat in ME2 as it feels more like a shooter. ME was a shooter from inception, ME2 just fleshed out the shooter mechanics. But my impression was that DA was always supposed to be a pause and play old school game. Whats this hubub about a more action packed, dynamic combat system? Is it going to be a hack and slash God of War or Oblivion type affair?

Then you look at how the RPG elements were stripped out err, I mean "streamlined" in ME2. It just seemed to me that most criticisms levied against ME1 like the inventory or Mako weren't addressed and fixed in ME2, they were just cut out of the game alltogether. Thats my fear with DA2- Console gamers moan about graphics? Ditch the realistic look and go for something completely different. Bros complain about the pause and play? Lets go God of War/Diablo. Kiddies tire of too much dialogue? Lets use a stripped down Awakening system.

To be fair we don't have much of anything to go off of, but the marketing hyperbole speak has me greatly concerned. But then again, BioWare and EA's marketing has never been that good so perhaps for us "hardcore" fans this is all much ado about nothing.

As for Morrigan being the Dragon White Haired Mage Lady. Another thought jumped into my head. Zevran banters with Morrigan about there being tales of other WItches of the Wilds around Thedas. What if that White Haired Mage Lady is an older sister of Morrigan's? One of Flemeth's daughters that got away?

And on the topic of the ten year time span, what does that mean for companions? Most games that jump time like that don't have robust party systems. Unless of course BioWare is drawing more inspiration from NWN and chopping up the BG style party system too? I just find it hard to believe that we'd have a set group of companions stick with us for 10 years without at some point becoming NPCs or obsolete and no longer companions. And how will the ten year time span effect your ability to become emotionally engaged with the companions when they're jumping around in time? It just seems like this is going to be a far more linear tale with a ton more potential for Gaider and the writer to bash us with the Plot Hammer of Doom. Maybe Hawke has a nice LI in the first couple years of his tale, only to have the narrative jump forward and have the Plot Hammer of Doom kill her off....Oh, BioWare can screw us over royally if they want to....

Wow and I didn't even intend a rant...

Modifié par Brockololly, 09 juillet 2010 - 01:28 .

[Master Shiori]

MoSa09 wrote...

I try to elaborate why i feel this way, maybe this will shed some light on my feelings (or it might confuse you even more )

I invested incredibly much time in her relationship during my Origins playthrough. I loved every second of it, and i felt extremly proud in those moments when she opened up more and more to my Warden, and i gave myself credit for her changing. To me, there is an intimate linkage of her with my very own Warden.

Now, my greatest fear of DA 2 is giving her a pre determined role (the grey haired witch) where all the things we experienced throughout Origins (the way she was altered by the love of the Warden) does not matter. To me, that would just make me feel like what i did and loved the most about Origins was completely useless, as they gave her a "one personality fits all different origins playthroughs" kind of personality. I just fear that her reappearance in a way like that would ruin how i picture her to be with my Warden.

And i already dread that moment you meet her again. I would want to ask her a thousands questions"
why did you leave me", "did you really loved me", what happened while i felt you thinking about me" and many more while Hawke, not knowing her, would just say "hi stranger". There weould be an incredibly gap between what me, the player, want to say and ask, and Hawke, the player character, is allowed to ask.

I agree she is an amazing character and a shame to be scraped, but at the moment, i have that strange fear that Origins just introduced her character but we didn't influence her at all and DA 2 will just treat her in a very specific way and any other possible chain of events in Origins never happened. And that would just hurt.

And i can't hide the strong feeling of wanting closure, an ending to her romance with my Warden that is experienced WITH my Warden and not just maybe a textbox or dialogue options experienced through the eyes of a new character telling me what happened to the old romance.

Does this make things any clearer or just more confusing?

edit: in other words, a great deal of what made her character that interesting to me is the change you can bring upon her. She is the very first character in a video game that happens to change her personality and her world view due to the unconditional love and actions of the main character. And that fascinationg part of her personality is inevitably linked to the one bringing out this change, and this is the Warden character. And as the Warden is now gone, he as the one who intiates and amages that most interesting part of her personality, that part of her i loved the most is most likely also gone.

I get what you're saying.

However, we know that she'll be back at some point.

Also, keep in mind that we have no idea how much time has passed between DA:O and DA2. For all we know our Warden might have already undertaken his calling.

Personally, I don't think they'll disregard the fact that Morrigan could have been changed by her relationship with the Warden, just as they said that our decisions in DA:O will be acknowledged in DA2. This might mean some kind of save import or simply answering questions about certain events.

Gaider did say, albeit cripticaly, that those of us who romanced Morrigan shouldn't disregard the whole thing, so let's just wait and see what comes of that.

[Brockololly]

Master Shiori wrote...

However, we know that she'll be back at some point.

This is all based on Melo's quote from back before Awakening came out. Lets look at it again:

FM: We made it very clear that Morrigan played a very
important role in Origins, so it's safe to say at some point, we haven't
seen
the last of Morrigan. Whether that's in Awakening or not, we'll have to
see.

Perhaps the interesting thing to note here is that he said Morrigan was important for Origins not necessarily Dragon Age. And since it seems they're favoring the NWN route of new stories and new characters every go around, maybe the odds are that we see Morrigan again in an ex-pack and not necessarily DA2.

Or conversely, maybe she will be in both- an ex-pack to close off the romance and Warden's involvement with her but then she goes on to DA2. That might make sense practically speaking- if an expack is in development, say for 2/1/2011 then they'd likely be doing VO work. And if Morrigan is in both an expack or DLC and DA2, then it would be easier for Claudia Black to just do all that recording in on fell swoop.

Master Shiori wrote...
Gaider did say, albeit cripticaly, that those of us who romanced Morrigan shouldn't disregard the whole thing, so let's just wait and see what comes of that.

He also said romances would be acknowledged in Awakening.<_< Bugs or not, unless you romanced and made Alistair king, the romance acknowledgements were no where to be found. But I'm willing to wait and see for now at least, especially since they created so much uncertainty with the exaggerated PR/Marketing speak.

[MoSa09]

Brockololly wrote...

That said, I do think we'll get some DLC or an ex-pack to wrap things up. And for what its worth Leliana's Song gives me some faith they can make decent DLC. But like Terra mentioned, the Awakening brouhaha has me doubting they can pull off a nice ToB style expansion to try and wrap up loose ends. But DLC and an ex-pack are my new hope for now. Screw Hawke for now, finish the Warden's story 1st. 

I would love to share your hope, but Leliana's Song, as great as it is, is a prequel, while a continuance of the romance needs to be a sequel we have yet to see within a dlc.

Brockololly wrote...

As for Morrigan being the Dragon White Haired Mage Lady. Another thought jumped into my head. Zevran banters with Morrigan about there being tales of other WItches of the Wilds around Thedas. What if that White Haired Mage Lady is an older sister of Morrigan's? One of Flemeth's daughters that got away?

that would  qualify as a surprise, and helping her deal with her mad sister has some appeal to me.

Master Shiori wrote...

Also, keep in mind that we have no
idea how much time has passed between DA:O and DA2. For all we know our
Warden might have already undertaken his calling.

that might indeed be true, but that does not rule out to just let him make his peace with her before dying. On the contrary, if they take the story too far into the future for the Warden to be alive, i can't picture any reason for not making a dlc that gives the opportunity of saying farewell to the ones he loved before dying. I'd rather say this encourages than contradics the option of giving us closure for the Wardens love

Master Shiori wrote...

Personally, I don't think they'll
disregard the fact that Morrigan could have been changed by her
relationship with the Warden, just as they said that our decisions in
DA:O will be acknowledged in DA2. This might mean some kind of save
import or simply answering questions about certain events.

Gaider
did say, albeit cripticaly, that those of us who romanced Morrigan
shouldn't disregard the whole thing, so let's just wait and see what
comes of that.

Would still feel strange to me. Even if they make a save import and she is a different person if you load a romance save compared to a no-romance port, the euqally important part of her is missing: the one who made her be so. And seeing how much different she became while the man who made her that way simply vanishes and is left outside with no closure about his feelings(and more important, MY FEELINGS), no thanks.

And besides, David Gaider is a good writer, i appreciate that he is one of the few that really takes the time to chat with the community, but his comments and predicitions... not so much. I yet have to see one of his cryptic comments to materialize into something that was worth what he hinted. For now, i believe what he considers "don't disregard the whole thing" is something i would consider "what a huge disappointment". Cause thats how it has been so far, though i would more than love to be proven wrong.

Modifié par MoSa09, 09 juillet 2010 - 01:45 .

[Master Shiori]

I don't think Melo would blunt something like that without being sure what he's saying is true. He never specified when we'll see her again, just that it will happen.

It could be an expansion, DLC or DA2. Right now it's anyone's guess.



And romances were acknowledged in Awakening.. in the epilogue. I know that sucked, but what else do you expect from an expansion whose budget is 1/10 of what it was for the original game?



I don't think Gaider is lying. He didn't give you any details but I don't think he told you that just to mess around with you. If he truly had no intention of bringing Morrigan back he would have simply pulled a Sten and said "NO".

[MoSa09]

Master Shiori wrote...

I don't think Melo would blunt something like that without being sure what he's saying is true. He never specified when we'll see her again, just that it will happen.
It could be an expansion, DLC or DA2. Right now it's anyone's guess.

And romances were acknowledged in Awakening.. in the epilogue. I know that sucked, but what else do you expect from an expansion whose budget is 1/10 of what it was for the original game?

Well, the letters would have been one way. For Morrigan, we speculated pre Awakening they made a dream sequence through the ring where you see her thinking of you. She does not ven have to say one thing, or maybe just "Warden", a line you could borrow from Origins, and many fans would have been more than pleased with this.

Master Shiori wrote...
I don't think Gaider is lying. He didn't give you any details but I don't think he told you that just to mess around with you. If he truly had no intention of bringing Morrigan back he would have simply pulled a Sten and said "NO".

Of course he is not lying, he just has different priorities. What is important to him and something worth waiting for might be something the community, and especially Morrigans fans, consider to be a huge disppointment. Truth is always a matter of a personal point of view, and his personal point of view on important things about her seems to be very different from the one i have.

Modifié par MoSa09, 09 juillet 2010 - 01:50 .

[Brockololly]

MoSa09 wrote...

Well, the letters would have been one way. For Morrigan, we speculated pre Awakening they made a dream sequence through the ring where you see her thinking of you. She does not ven have to say one thing, or maybe just "Warden", a line you could borrow from Origins, and many fans would have been more than pleased with this.

Right- the ring would have been the perfect way to do something. Like Ximena's comic does with her Warden and Morrigan.

MoSa09 wrote...
Of course he is not lying, he just has different priorities. What is important to him and something worth waiting for might be something the community, and especially Morrigans fans, consider to be a huge disppointment. Truth is always a matter of a personal point of view, and his personal point of view on important things about her seems to be very different from the one i have.

Yeah, I'm not saying Gaider is lying or anything but on the flip side (ignoring NDAs) he wouldn't come out and crush hope either. Its in his best interest to keep us waiting with baited breath.