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THE Morrigan Discussion and Research Thread *Infested with Bugs Yet Again!*


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Yeh, I fixed it. Any other Morrigan changes before I update ZDF? 

Edit: Seriously, this was a dumb mistake.  I'm going to incorporate it into ZDF AND release it stand alone there as well.  So please let me know if there are any other changes needed to the stupid Morrigan file.  I hate all the updates I do to ZDF.

Second edit: Ok, I know of one other bug.  A dialog choice for city elves.  If there are any others PLEASE let me know.  Soon :)  Because any other Morrigan changes will have to wait until the next major update to ZDF, which is 2.0.

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 05:31 .


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Wow... the part they cut is actually huge.

There are alot of dialogue trees. You can tell her whether you killed Flemeth or not or you can just lie. She ask about the grimoire and you get to decide if you wanna give to her.

If you're romancing her there is a "tent scene" after she thanks you.... why the hell did they cut this?

#428
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IT IS NOT CUT! I fixed it. It was a BIG mistake. Please tell me what mistakes there are so I can fix them, if you want them fixed.

Edit: *grin* most of these mistakes are very easy to fix.  The one at Flemeth's hut is done, tested, etc., already.  But if I don't know about the bugs, I can't fix them.

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 05:34 .


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Thank you Ejoslin. You are still my hero. And thanks for the "shameless plug". I never get tired of watching that, ever.

I do hope people speak up about what they believe is broken with Morrigan's dialogue. I wouldn't know, this is my virgin (so to speak) run with her. My dalish deserves to get the full treatment. He's just too marvelous.

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*grin* I'll give it a few minutes. I want to update ZDF though, because these are pretty big mistakes. So far, I fixed the confrontation at flemeth's hut so it now shows up (it was an error in the action -- whoever set that set it to "clear" instead of "set" the first time, which caused the dialog to not trigger). I also fixed the city elf dialog choice and it now says, "My mother died a lot time ago," instead of, "My mother died when I was born."

Anything else?

Edit: Hmmm, I can't see why the kiss after she thanks you wouldn't trigger.  It's a kiss, not a tent scene.

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 05:40 .


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Sabriana wrote...

Thank you Ejoslin. You are still my hero. And thanks for the "shameless plug". I never get tired of watching that, ever.
I do hope people speak up about what they believe is broken with Morrigan's dialogue. I wouldn't know, this is my virgin (so to speak) run with her. My dalish deserves to get the full treatment. He's just too marvelous.


I romanced Morrigan on my Dalish and she left me him a very broken, broken man. Oh Morrigan :(

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ejoslin wrote...

Yeh, I fixed it. Any other Morrigan changes before I update ZDF? 

Edit: Seriously, this was a dumb mistake.  I'm going to incorporate it into ZDF AND release it stand alone there as well.  So please let me know if there are any other changes needed to the stupid Morrigan file.  I hate all the updates I do to ZDF.

Second edit: Ok, I know of one other bug.  A dialog choice for city elves.  If there are any others PLEASE let me know.  Soon :)  Because any other Morrigan changes will have to wait until the next major update to ZDF, which is 2.0.


Many thanks for this fix, out of interest, what exactly was causing the conversation not to fire?

I'm not aware of any other known bugs (aside from the city gates friendly*/love conundrum, which from what you and blademaster have stated seems to be intentional.)

I'll definitely endorse it over on the nexus when you have the latest version uploaded.

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I'll have to think of a RP reason my dalish would be so silly to actually take her to the hut. Oh well, I will come up with something.

Ejo, I downloaded your ZDF today - again :). Should I just take the Morrigan fix, or will you update everything?


Awww, Soignee. Maybe my dalish and your dalish can go out and cry in their beer ale together, and reminisce about Morrigan.

Modifié par Sabriana, 09 avril 2010 - 05:41 .


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Terra_Ex wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Yeh, I fixed it. Any other Morrigan changes before I update ZDF? 

Edit: Seriously, this was a dumb mistake.  I'm going to incorporate it into ZDF AND release it stand alone there as well.  So please let me know if there are any other changes needed to the stupid Morrigan file.  I hate all the updates I do to ZDF.

Second edit: Ok, I know of one other bug.  A dialog choice for city elves.  If there are any others PLEASE let me know.  Soon :)  Because any other Morrigan changes will have to wait until the next major update to ZDF, which is 2.0.


Many thanks for this fix, out of interest, what exactly was causing the conversation not to fire?

I'm not aware of any other known bugs (aside from the city gates friendly*/love conundrum, which from what you and blademaster have stated seems to be intentional.)

I'll definitely endorse it over on the nexus when you have the latest version uploaded.


What caused it, on the first part of the tree, when it establishes you're not in camp, it's supposed to set the flag of you being there, but instead, it clears it.  So the next dialog which has the condition that was supposed to be set by the last one doesn't trigger.

Does that make sense?

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Yeah. The script wiped the action out. Basically. Like the "clear all actions" command line. Bleh

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Yep, makes perfect sense, from what I've seen DA's syntax is pretty close to C++, which I have a lot of experience with. Definitely gonna check out some of the scripts later.

#437
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No, Sabriana, it's not even at the script level. Look at [Comment Checks player is in camp]

The action there, MORRIGAN_EVENT_ARRIVED_AT_FLEMETHS_HUT is set for "clear" instead of "set". The next part of the dialog tree is dependent on that being set. Since it's not set, the dialog never triggers.

Edit: Again, this isn't even the script.  This is in the dlg.  There are TONS of mistakes in Zevran's and Alistair's scripts, mind you, but this doesn't even have that excuse.

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 05:47 .


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Ok, since no one is speaking up, I'll export this, put up a B2B, update ZDF and update the morrigan fix on there as well. Urg. People who have downloaded ZDF probably hate me for my frequent updates.

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So six months after the release and I'm the first one to ever notice this.... Jesus.... haven't they patched the game 3 times already?

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Whot? That's pathetic. How could they not have seen that? I suck at C++ and even I see it. Double "bleh".

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ejoslin wrote...

Ok, since no one is speaking up, I'll export this, put up a B2B, update ZDF and update the morrigan fix on there as well. Urg. People who have downloaded ZDF probably hate me for my frequent updates.

What is ZDF?  I just wanna know how I can get the fix.  Posted Image

I was surprised at the people posting obscenities about the lack of bug fixes, but this is just ridiculous.  Why would a game company not put minimal effort into making sure that content they have paid writers and artists for actually shows up in the game?

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blademaster7 wrote...

So six months after the release and I'm the first one to ever notice this.... Jesus.... haven't they patched the game 3 times already?


Heh, doesn't it ****** you off how quickly I could fix it?

Edit: And imagine if she was not giving you the correct dialog at the gates!  Hahahahaha!  Zevran bugs ****** me off.  I'm dealing with it though.

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 05:56 .


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blademaster7 wrote...

So six months after the release and I'm the first one to ever notice this.... Jesus.... haven't they patched the game 3 times already?


It does make you wonder what other things aren't getting triggered across the whole game due to errors like this, you'd have to go through the whole script with a fine tooth comb to find them all, which is no small task.

ejoslin wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...

So
six months after the release and I'm the first one to ever notice
this.... Jesus.... haven't they patched the game 3 times
already?


Heh, doesn't it ****** you off how quickly I could
fix it?

It's laughable really - plus, considering the length of time between patch releases I'd expect the list of changes/bugfixes to be pretty extensive, but they're usually quite underwhelming. As we've said time and again, there's no excuse for BW not fixing these issues.

Modifié par Terra_Ex, 09 avril 2010 - 05:59 .


#444
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Zevran Dialogue Fix, Addai ;)

#445
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Zevran Dialog Fix, not just for Zevran fans!

Edit: It's still exporting.  It should be up on DANexus, at least the Morrigan stand alone part, within 10 minutes.  I highly recommend the whole thing, though.

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 05:57 .


#446
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Ejo, I re-downloaded the ZDF today. Do I need the whole thing again, or will the Morrigan stand-alone be enough?

#447
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Thanks for your effort. I'm looking to see what else did they cut. *sigh*

#448
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Sabriana wrote...

Ejo, I re-downloaded the ZDF today. Do I need the whole thing again, or will the Morrigan stand-alone be enough?


Morrigan stand alone will work.  Just delete the old morrigan_main.dlg and morrigan_main.dlb from the Alistair Files folder and put the new ones in.

Edit: The standalone is up.  As soon as I change my archive and adjust the readme, 1.6.3 will be up as well.

Second edit: Ok, version 1.6.3 is up.  

*grin* I don't want to hear about any more  bugs!  No, no I do NOT!

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 06:17 .


#449
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Great. I'll test it right away. Thanks once again. :)




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I don't suppose there is a way to fix the ring epilogue bug for the Morrigan romance?



This bug has been driving the Morrigan fans nuts for a long time and Bioware seems content to let it stay like this.