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[Ken555]

In Awakening the bugs with party members were like getting +100 approval as soon as you let them into your party.

[Giggles_Manically]

Wierd examples:

Giving Alistair a lamb bone makes up for letting Jowan out.

Giving Leliana the flower makes up for lying to the knights

Giving Oghern three random gifts makes up getting his wife killed.



I would not mind seeing a better system than this at all folks.

[Ken555]

Thats true, I like it more when you actually get approval for talking to them. At least ther're hearing you comfort them or Insulting them depending on which one you choose.

[Giggles_Manically]

You actually get approval for this:

Zevran: I wish I had gotten those boots

WARDEN: NO BOOTS FOR YOU.

Zevran: Yes its true.. no boots for Zevran.



sorry I heard that for the first time last night and I am still laughing.

[revan11exile]

blademaster7 wrote...

Hawke: Maker's breath! You are the Hero of Ferelden! You are my idol. Can I have your autograph?

Warden: Sure. What's your name?

Hawke: It's Haw...

Warden: It doesn't matter what your name is! *raises eyebrow*                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

Morrigan approves +5

Good one Blademaster ha ha:D

[Ken555]

It was actually pretty good. Thanks for the laugh Blademaster.

[Giggles_Manically]

Soory but I am bored:

Dave: Horatio it looks like Flemeth is back for DA2.
Horatio: Well Dave it looks like this abomination-

Horatio: Is taking a Voyage.
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Modifié par Giggles_Manically, 10 juillet 2010 - 01:01 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

blademaster7 wrote...

Hawke: Maker's breath! You are the Hero of Ferelden! You are my idol. Can I have your autograph?

Warden: Sure. What's your name?

Hawke: It's Haw...

Warden: It doesn't matter what your name is! *raises eyebrow*

Morrigan approves +5

Ha win.

Maybe we should all have "Ich Bein Ein Warden" sigs.

[Master Shiori]

Ken555 wrote...

In Awakening the bugs with party members were like getting +100 approval as soon as you let them into your party.

That's exactly how it's going to work for Hawke in DA2. Every party member who joins you will automatically get +100 approval, because Hawke is that awesome.

In fact, by the end of the game he'll be banging Andraste herself in his bed while the Maker is cleaning his boots outside.

Modifié par Master Shiori, 10 juillet 2010 - 01:43 .

[Giggles_Manically]

A bit grumpy this morning Shiori?

[KnightofPhoenix]

Master Shiori's criticism, while hyperbolic, is not completely unreasonable. Didn't we find out that even if a companion hates Hawke completely, he / she will still fight with Hawke?

I didnt' quite understand that statement to be honest.

[Master Shiori]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

A bit grumpy this morning Shiori?

It's 4 p.m. here.

[Giggles_Manically]

Oh its 800 Am in calgary. Time Zones FTW.



If Felemeth is in DA I hope she isint to angry since I have always killed her. Or Shale does, she just dosent die.



I wonder If we get a defualt setting in DA2 like in ME2 with no import files?

[Master Shiori]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Master Shiori's criticism, while hyperbolic, is not completely unreasonable. Didn't we find out that even if a companion hates Hawke completely, he / she will still fight with Hawke?
I didnt' quite understand that statement to be honest.

Might be like Morrigan and Alistair in Origins. You can get them to hate you but they won't leave unless you tell them to.

Also, low approval could bring certain disadvantages like making you unable to directly control that companion or he suffers penalty to his important attribute score.

Ex. If you gain approval with a mage she'd get a bonus to her magic attribute, but low approval would give her a penalty to magic instead.

Just some ideas that popped into my head.

[Master Shiori]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Oh its 800 Am in calgary. Time Zones FTW.

If Felemeth is in DA I hope she isint to angry since I have always killed her. Or Shale does, she just dosent die.

I wonder If we get a defualt setting in DA2 like in ME2 with no import files?

From what we know you'll be importing your saves from Origins into DA2 so the game will recognize your choices from DA:O and it's affects on the world.

[Brockololly]

Here is the thing for me: Right after Origins came out I thought to myself, "You know, it might be neat if down the road, BioWare made a Dragon Age game more cinematic like Mass Effect." Since DA is supposedly a huge franchise with boatloads of stories to tell, why not change things up game to game?

But in thinking that, I was thinking they might change up the silent PC formula WAY down the road like after multiple DA games when the formula was getting stale. Not right after Origins.

The whole voiced PC and ME style dialogue wheel has really taken the wind out of my sails for anything DA at the moment. BioWare will make a nice story, no doubt and DA2 will be praised by critics as being new and shiny and cinematic and since they're focusing so much on the console Bros, it'll probably garner review scores higher than DAO. And since clearly a game that gets a 94 metacritic is lightyears better than one which gets a 91, they'll ditch the silent PC forever. Wild speculation I know...

I'd just like to know if this whole Hawke dude and the voiced PC is a one shot deal with DA or if this is the "real" Dragon Age and Origins was just the scrapped prototype.

[Brockololly]

Master Shiori wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Oh its 800 Am in calgary. Time Zones FTW.

If Felemeth is in DA I hope she isint to angry since I have always killed her. Or Shale does, she just dosent die.

I wonder If we get a defualt setting in DA2 like in ME2 with no import files?

From what we know you'll be importing your saves from Origins into DA2 so the game will recognize your choices from DA:O and it's affects on the world.

I really hope BioWare figures out how to properly read flags then for DA2...Hell, the initial purpose of this thread is how Awakening botched the reading of the Morrigan flags...

[MoSa09]

Brockololly wrote...

I'd just like to know if this whole Hawke dude and the voiced PC is a one shot deal with DA or if this is the "real" Dragon Age and Origins was just the scrapped prototype.

given the huge success of Mass Effect and the masseffectionization of Dragon Age, i wouldn't be surprised if Da 2 is just the start for several episodes playing As Hawke. May fans already demanded that right after Origins, and now the company delivers, they just do not start with Origins but with DA 2, Me style.

But i suppose after all Origins dlc have been released and the Warden had his whatever it will be cameo in DA 2, this will be the final death of him in the DA franchise. I love to be proven wrong and would already looking forward to apologize in great length and detail, but i doubt that will ever happen.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Let's put things in perspective.
Had DA been designed as a trilogy and the sequel removed a lot of important element, then it's safe to assume they won't be back in the final installement. Kind of how ME1's already weak RPG elements game mechanics wise probably won't return in ME3.

But DA2 is not really a sequel. It's more like a spin-off, supposedely to deliver a story, centralised around a character, the writers feel they need to tell. If that's the case, the road they've taken is the more practical one.
That doesn't really exclude the possibility of a direct sequel to Origins that uses the same system. Or of another spin-off that re-assumes Origins' systems.

However and you are compeltely right in saying this, if DA2's sales are substantially higher, chances are they won't go back to the preivious system. But the naive in me is hoping that Bioware will not forsake Origins like this.
It tried something new in it and it worked briliantly.

EDIT: and yes there is the risk of more Hawke showing up. Which I would hate. If DA2 supposedely makes him / her into the most important person and that its whole point is his / her rise to power, then there is no logegr any point in playing as him/ her after DA2.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 10 juillet 2010 - 02:22 .

[Giggles_Manically]

DA2 is sounding like Fable 3 right now.



I think that a well done VO is good, but imaging a voice worked for immersion to me.



In DA: I felt like I was living the story, and actually there.

In ME: I felt like I was watching a story, and directing it rather than living it.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

DA2 is sounding like Fable 3 right now.

Yep. Except, I never took the Fable series seriously. From the very beginning, I saw it as a satire and got a few lulz from it. I don't expect Fable III to treat politics seriously.

I expect DA2 however to take politics seriously and not expect me to believe that Hawke becomes the all powerful champion of Kirkwall with only the sword and not the brain....or pen as it were.

[Giggles_Manically]

Maybe I can live my dream and found a glorious republic based on laws and balances...



screw it Evil Empire imbound, hide your women and valuables here comes Emperor Hawke!

[Master Shiori]

Does anyone else think we might be seeing a series of tales with DA:O, DA2 and later games that are all setting the groundwork for a truly huge story at the end of the Dragon Age (as a time period)?



We know there are loose ends with our Warden vanishing, Morrigan and te OGB that Gaider seems to be unwilling to write off.

Brock asked him about Wardens who romanced Morri and he said "don't close tha chapter just yet".

I asked him if we can expect to see Morrigan again or is her story over with Origins and he said that he can't comment on that.

If Bioware were truly done with our Warden and Morri they'd go out and say it. The "can't comment" is the answer you usually get when asking about things that will be revealed in the future.



It might be possible that the stories of Warden, Morrigan and Hawke will all come together in the future and it's there that we'll have our big closure to mark the end of one age and the beginning of another.

[KnightofPhoenix]

@ Shiori. That's what I think yes. I think Hawke will play an important part in the future of the franchise (just hopefully, we won't play as him / her after DA2, as there is no point). But yea there are a lot of things happening in the Dragon Age, such as OGB and Awakening of the Darkspawn. Possibly even a Qunari invasion which was hinted at.

I personally do not mind having Hawke cameos in the future. Who knows, he might be a character I end up liking. Maybe even him apearing as an antagonist? That would be quite unique and interesting. I do not think however that he'll be a companion, as it ends up downgrading him quite a bit.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 10 juillet 2010 - 02:48 .

[Brockololly]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

But DA2 is not really a sequel. It's more like a spin-off, supposedely to deliver a story, centralised around a character, the writers feel they need to tell. If that's the case, the road they've taken is the more practical one.
That doesn't really exclude the possibility of a direct sequel to Origins that uses the same system. Or of another spin-off that re-assumes Origins' systems.

Right- sadly, while I was hoping for BG style continuity for the Warden it seems now that the approach to Dragon Age as a franchise is a series of one shot stories loosely connected in that they're all in Thedas. So my hope is that, maybe the devs fthought a Voiced Hawke works best for this game, but maybe in DA3 if its some totally different story we'll be back to a silent PC as that might fit in better. But I'm just skeptical they'll do that as too many people will get all distracted by the "new and shiny" "cinematic" story of DA2 and ripping out the voiced PC would be perceived as a setback by the mainstream crowd....

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
However and you are compeltely right in saying this, if DA2's sales are substantially higher, chances are they won't go back to the preivious system. But the naive in me is hoping that Bioware will not forsake Origins like this.
It tried something new in it and it worked briliantly.

True on the sales...what kills me is that it seems BioWare and other companies assume just becasue game X has greater sales than game Y, game X must be a much better game. As far as comparing ME2 to DAO, both sold well, I think in part because they were different. So why is BioWare homogeneizing DA2 into Mass Effect with swords? Whats the big benefit? Making Hawke's story better? More sales to lure in the ME Bros?

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
EDIT: and yes there is the risk of more Hawke showing up. Which I would hate. If DA2 supposedely makes him / her into the most important person and that its whole point is his / her rise to power, then there is no logegr any point in playing as him/ her after DA2.

I'm wondering this though too- maybe since Hawke is voiced he isn't our character, he is property of BioWare. Perhaps that means in the 3rd game or whenever (if Hawke doesn't have a rock fall on him) he comes back as an NPC or some other role in DA3 and beyond?