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[ejoslin]

Master Shiori wrote...

I don't suppose there is a way to fix the ring epilogue bug for the Morrigan romance?

This bug has been driving the Morrigan fans nuts for a long time and Bioware seems content to let it stay like this.

No, there is not.  And read my post about the bugs in Zevran's romance.  Don't hold your breath.

[Shade of Wolf]

Terra_Ex wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...

../../../images/forum/emoticons/andy.png I wasn't
even aware so many bugs existed. How long have they been working on
DAO? Five years?

The beta testers need to be fired. Pronto.

I
can't believe I voted for Bioware in that silly competition. The devs
came down to the forums and requested the support of "their community".
Fix your goddamn games first.

When was the last time they
answered to the "community" about legitimate concerns? Here I thought
Bioware was a serious company.

Yes it is quite amusing how quickly a BW-affiliated poster appears on inconsequential or pro-BW threads to garner fan support, yet they continue to steer clear of the many bug-related threads, even if its just to acknowledge that this issues are getting looked into.

ejoslin wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...

I wasn't even aware so many bugs existed. How long have they been working on DAO? Five years?

The beta testers need to be fired. Pronto.

I can't believe I voted for Bioware in that silly competition. The devs came down to the forums and requested the support of "their community". Fix your goddamn games first.

When was the last time they answered to the "community" about legitimate concerns? Here I thought Bioware was a serious company.

I didn't even get into the bug that happens to a City Elf that when you go back to the Alienage with your romance partner, it has ALISTAIR asking about your betrothal instead of your romance partner, and if Ali isn't in the party, it gives a glitched screen.  Plus the female warden romancing Zevran dialog options were messed up.  Yes, I fixed it, and it works for Morrigan as well (yes, there's a line in there of hers you've probably never heard).

*grin* Give me an inch when it comes to ranting, I'll take a mile.  I did all this for FREE, but it only helps PC users.  People on the consoles are SOL 

Edit: It's sad that the people who were paid to do this didn't!

Well this is the problem - its a different ball game now, this isn't the time of BG2 where the fans can fix everything up for everyone - anyone playing on a console is truly screwed. BW has developed a multiplatform title and one could argue from a moral standpoint that  they have an obligation to fix up a faulty product to ensure that everyone is on a level playing field. Of course from a more realistic, business standpoint BW & EA are most likely not obligated to do anything.

Considering that fans have fixed up / are currently fixing many of the dialogue issues, what's BW's legal standpoint - are they able to use/ask to implement fan made fixes into an official patch for all platforms or is there an impediment to letting them do this? Outside of potential legal issues, it's all for the betterment of the game and the franchise in general and I can't see fans who have slaved away creating fixes not wanting to see them getting included in a prospective official patch. It just seems to me like it'd take a single dev one afternoon to amalgamate the various fixes into a single official patch.

True, so true

[Sabriana]

Don't ask you again, Ejoslin? Don't break my heart. What if we bribe you again? Like with double chocolate rum brownies? Morrigan can't be abandoned, no, no. My dalish will be devastated. We can't have that. He's a good guy, he is. I'll wash your dishes. Clean your camp. Shine your armor. [/groveling]

But seriously, thank you so much. Unfortunately, I have no clue what could be missing. I don't know which dialogues sound wonky, I've not gotten far yet. Ardyn is still in Redcliffe.

Oh well, I'll watch your video a couple of ten times more, and then fire up my dalish. I can't wait to see what Morrigan has in store for him. She's really something as the romance interest.

Modifié par Sabriana, 09 avril 2010 - 06:24 .

[Terra_Ex]

Great stuff, I'll test it out later today

[ejoslin]

Sabriana wrote...

What if we bribe you again? Like with double chocolate rum brownies? Morrigan can't be abandoned, no, no. My dalish will be devastated. We can't have that. He's a good guy, he is. I'll wash your dishes. Clean your camp. Shine your armor. [/groveling]
But seriously, thank you so much. Unfortunately, I have no clue what could be missing. I don't know which dialogues sound wonky, I've not gotten far yet. Ardyn is still in Redcliffe.
Oh well, I'll watch your video a couple of ten times more, and then fire up my dalish. I can't wait to see what Morrigan has in store for him. She's really something as the romance interest.

No need to bribe.  If I can fix the bugs, I will, but I will only release as a standalone.  It won't be incorporated until ZDF 2.0.  And for that, you need to bribe Charsen.

[blademaster7]

It works!!!



I took Morrigan to the hut and she stopped me to ask why did I bring her there. I got -5 btw



Flemeth wasn't there... no I'm gonna finish the quest and see the rest of the dialogue

[Shade of Wolf]

blademaster7 wrote...

It works!!!

I took Morrigan to the hut and she stopped me to ask why did I bring her there. I got -5 btw

Flemeth wasn't there... no I'm gonna finish the quest and see the rest of the dialogue

I assume this is on PC? *jealous glance from corner of eye*
Will BioWare ever satisfy?

[ejoslin]

Of course it works. I told you I fixed it Do me a favor and endorse the file after a few hours have passed. I normally don't ask for endorsements, but I did this for you!

[Sabriana]

Charsen? I'll need to make a shopping list. Let's see, what do I need for spaghetti bolognese, and non-chocolate desserts? I'll start with a nice bottle of Chianti.



I can't believe they released it like this. If *I* can see it, then they should have too. No wonder Leliana is so glitched in many games. Unfortunately, the player can't tell if something is screwy unless they are toolset savvy. The only time you can tell is when it's very obvious, like continuously looping dialogue or Sten talking about his missing sword every time you click on him.

[blademaster7]

Didn't get the confrontation after finishing the quest...



The toolset says it's supposed to ask you "you return from the wilds have you any news?" or something like that

[ejoslin]

I am NOT fixing Sten. No. It is not going to happen. NO! I won't even look at it...

Sh!t, opening the toolset now

Edit: Obviously, back when I worked, I did some database management.  I would have been fired, seriously, if my work was like this.  Then again, games are far more sexy so that gives them room for a lot more error.

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 06:36 .

[blademaster7]

Of course I will endorse it,



Might as well advertise it for you. I'll start a thread and let everyone know about it...



Barbarossa will go crazy once he hears this... he plays on Xbox360... sorry man

[Sabriana]

ejoslin wrote...

I am NOT fixing Sten. No. It is not going to happen. NO! I won't even look at it...

Sh!t, opening the toolset now

Edit: Obviously, back when I worked, I did some database management.  I would have been fired, seriously, if my work was like this.  Then again, games are far more sexy so that gives them room for a lot more error.

Oh no, I'd never ask you that. Herr Uhl might, but not me. Honest. Cross my heart. Just Morrigan. Truly.

*crosses fingers again*

Modifié par Sabriana, 09 avril 2010 - 06:39 .

[ejoslin]

Ok, will look at it. My morrigan file is corrupt, unfortunately, so I'll have to reinstall the database at some point. That's why frequent backups are completely necessary. All my work can be imported, but since the morrigan fixes are small, I won't bother right now.

[ejoslin]

blademaster7 wrote...

Didn't get the confrontation after finishing the quest...

The toolset says it's supposed to ask you "you return from the wilds have you any news?" or something like that

Hmmm, do you have the exact text? I'm lazy and like using a "find" command

Edit: never mind, found it!

Second edit: Ok, this won't be as easy.  I did find out that Zevran has a line there, but that's aside the point.  I need to think about how to fix this, though.  It's not as straightforward.  Give me a little bit for this one.

Third edit: If I'm seeing what I THINK I'm seeing... Wow.  Ok, I need some time, but I should be able to fix it.  It's hard to believe I'm interpreting this correctly, though.  I am not a programmer, though I have experience scripting.  I saw huge messes in Alistair's and Zevran's scripts, but it looks like Morrigan's was never finished.  It's so bad, I am beginning to think I am looking at the wrong thing.

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 06:52 .

[Shade of Wolf]

blademaster7 wrote...

Of course I will endorse it,

Might as well advertise it for you. I'll start a thread and let everyone know about it...

Barbarossa will go crazy once he hears this... he plays on Xbox360... sorry man

Trust me, a lot more people will go crazy before the end..

Modifié par Shade of Wolf, 09 avril 2010 - 06:47 .

[Master Shiori]

ejoslin wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

I don't suppose there is a way to fix the ring epilogue bug for the Morrigan romance?

This bug has been driving the Morrigan fans nuts for a long time and Bioware seems content to let it stay like this.

No, there is not.  And read my post about the bugs in Zevran's romance.  Don't hold your breath.

Ah, that's a shame.

Luckily it's nothing gamebreaking.

I did read your faq about the bugs in Zevran romance and it boogles the mind to think how many things are messed up there...

Thank you for taking the time to fix these issues.

Modifié par Master Shiori, 09 avril 2010 - 06:56 .

[Sabriana]

ejoslin wrote...

If I'm seeing what I THINK I'm seeing... Wow.  Ok, I need some time, but I should be able to fix it.  It's hard to believe I'm interpreting this correctly, though.  I am not a programmer, though I have experience scripting.  I saw huge messes in Alistair's and Zevran's scripts, but it looks like Morrigan's was never finished.  It's so bad, I am beginning to think I am looking at the wrong thing.

Unfortunately, I'm 99.99 % sure you are looking at the right thing. This is getting über-ridiculous.

[Shade of Wolf]

I think I could cry...

[blademaster7]

I can't find the speeches during the final battle. Where are they?

[ejoslin]

party_events

[Brockololly]

Ok all this talk of messing around in the toolset has sufficiently piqued my interest and I'm scrounging around in it now too. Very nifty stuff...

[ejoslin]

Ok, this will take me awhile because I'm not sure what I'm doing. The problem is quite, ummm, interesting. My guess is someone who actually IS a programmer could do this more quickly than I, but I will slug away at it!

[ejoslin]

Is anyone will to beta test for me?

Edit: ooooh, second thought here.  I think perhaps this dialog WAS cut deliberately.  It will interfere with her other conversation.  You won't be able to give her the real grimoire as a gift if I do this change.

Second edit: I'm trying to figure out under what circumstances this actually would be triggered.  It seems, in other places, that they want the grimoire to be a gift, and if she confronts you, it can't be given as a gift.  Let me think about this some more.  I know everyone wants more morrigan, but I don't want to ruin a deliberate plot device.

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 07:32 .

[blademaster7]

Sure. Let me try