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THE Morrigan Discussion and Research Thread *Infested with Bugs Yet Again!*


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#476
Sabriana

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Darn. It would've been nice if it was a quick and easy fix. The NWN2 dialogues were a cake-walk compared to this mess.

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blademaster7 wrote...

Sure. Let me try


I can, this file doesn't have my other changes, but like I was saying in my edits above, I'm afraid this will break something.  You're supposed to give her Flemeth's grimoire as a gift, but with this change, you can't.  I'm thinking it was a deliberate cut, that somewhere they changed their mind.  Hmmmm, I'm getting a headache thinking about it.  I can't find the actual condition, which is strange (it's not where it looks like it should be) so I can't figure out where and when this is supposed to trigger.

Edit: I'm thinking this is supposed to trigger if you don't kill Flemeth.  I'm going to test this and see if it does before making changes.  

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 07:37 .


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Sabriana

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Yeh, and unfortunately, the grimoire will change her to 'love', right? Bummer.

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Only if her approval is 90+



There seems to be a "romance" scene after that conversation... O_o



Am I wrong?

#480
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It's a kiss; tent scenes only play once if unmodded.

I wish I could figure out what was supposed to actually trigger this conversation. The only issue I have is it makes it impossible to gift the grimoire to Morrigan. I can make it trigger if you haven't killed Flemeth, I think. I wonder, though. I need to check something. This one is, I believe, selected dialog. 

*sigh* I wish I could figure out what their intent was here.

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 07:44 .


#481
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Maybe it's a random encounter?



By the way... i found something else that will send Morrigan fans into rampage... If you leave her at the gates she will not give the correct speech to a PC she loves...



:(

#482
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She won't? Ok, looking at that now. Good thing to know it NOW!

Edit: And trust me, I understand THAT one.  Does she give the correct "in love" dialog when you take her?

Second edit: When you leave her, you can't tell her you love her?

Third edit: What dialogs are not showing up?  I need to know since I can't test it myself.  I have no male characters at the gates.

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 07:52 .


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The last line is missing from the game...



"Go, slay the archdemon. Live long and well... my love"



I did not get that line.... my love comes with a stuttering whispering.... WHO THE **** PROGRAMMED THIS?!?!



It melts your heart and it's not even in the game... :(

#484
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Ah, ok, so it's an error in the VO unfortunately. THAT I can't fix. I'm sorry :( I would if I could.

Edit: That is, if I'm understanding you correctly.  Take a peek at Zevran and see what we didn't get!  And see what his friends don't get!  It's awful.

Second edit: It's why I learned how to mod and then took on my monster project!

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 07:56 .


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I remember her saying "my love" at her final speech when I was playing

#486
Sabriana

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Is that 'stuttering whispering' a VO note, or does it do that in-game? I don't quite understand, Blade.

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Yes, but she only says it if you take her with you.



The one I'm talking about is if you leave her at the gates.... It's sounds more emotional this time... and I only heard it from the toolset

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If you take her with you she'll say "I will always remember you my love"



That works fine....



The dialogue at the gates however.... is missing the last line(the one above)

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blademaster7 wrote...

If you take her with you she'll say "I will always remember you my love"

That works fine....

The dialogue at the gates however.... is missing the last line(the one above)


There's no reason I can see that that line shouldn't be triggering, unfortunately.  It looks good in the toolset.

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blademaster7 wrote...

Only if her approval is 90+

There seems to be a "romance" scene after that conversation... O_o

Am I wrong?


No you're not.

This is actually your second chance to trigger romance with Morrigan in case you haven't already done so when asking her about growing up in the Wilds.

After you give her the real grimoire (provided you're friendly with her and not in romance with another character) she'll give you a the regular friendship speech about you saving her from Flemeth.

At this point you can reply that you did it because you're her friend. That will cause her to say how she never had a male friend before and ask you if you believed the 2 of you could be more then just friends.

#491
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It didn't trigger for me... :(



Someone else with a save?

#492
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Nevermind. I found the error. God, this one will make you want to punt a kitten. I can fix it, though, I think. This will also give you the other changes I have, though. Do you want it?

Edit: What is going on is there were supposed to be kisses in here.  The devs for whatever reason decided not to put them in.  It is VERY difficult there to do it -- that's why Charsen took over my project.  He's far better at modding than mine is.  ANYWAY, there's supposed to be a kiss in between those two lines, but since they didn't put it in, you lose the last line there.  I can fix it by taking out that condition entirely, but I can't add the kiss.  Would you like that?  I can put it up for you, and I will make the change for future versions of ZDF, but I cannot make that major of a change right now since I think Charsen is closing in on finishing the kisses for Zevran (version 2.0 of ZDF).

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 08:08 .


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Master Shiori, we're talking about the dialogue that is missing(it's only in the toolset)

Ejosin said it's just a kiss, so whatever

EDIT: Of course I want it.... It's just sounds so much better when she whispers it...

Modifié par blademaster7, 09 avril 2010 - 08:07 .


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blademaster7 wrote...

Master Shiori, we're talking about the dialogue that is missing(it's only in the toolset)

Ejosin said it's just a kiss, so whatever


My mistake then.

I understood that as you talking about the scene that happens after you give Morrigan Flemeth's grimoire..

#495
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Ok, exporting now. I'll put it up on rapidshare or something. This file has a lot of other changes, however. So be prepared for the foundation of my full mod.

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Anyway... do you guys mind if I post a new topic about dialogue fixes? Maybe we'll get some attention from modders


#497
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Will she still switch to "love" without getting the grimoire as a gift? Well, provided she's at 90+, of course.

#498
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No.. not love without the grimoire.. It stays at adore

#499
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Sabriana, that is Morrigan's personal quest. Giving her the Grimoire. And blademaster7, post what you like. I'm one of the few modders it seems that is not Alistair-centric, though. But there most likely are more out there; it's not like we're a well organized bunch!

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 Ok, removed link.  Extract the whole thing into your /override folder.  I didn't include a readme.  The scripts in there are also needed as they fix Zevran and Alistair's dialogs there.  Let me know if you don't get it and I need to upload it again.  There are only 10 downloads permitted.

Edit: This is NOT the full ZDF, but if you have any part of it, just let these files overwrite the current files you have in there.  it's totally incompatible with endgame patches like Alistair Dialog patch or Dialog and endgame slides fixes or ser gilmore npc.  Yadada.  Those are all awesome, but so's mine!

Modifié par ejoslin, 10 avril 2010 - 12:22 .