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[Brockololly]

Ahhhh.. the Bros have assumed direct control of the DA2 boards then it seems....

Acharnae wrote...

I'm sorry I didn't read the whole thread ([smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/w00t.png[/smilie]) but I read the first posts. I don't know if it is mentioned before, but here it goes:

I did talk to Morrigan saying I will look for her.

At the epilogue of Origins, I DO NOT get the mention of the ring (that she feels remorse etc).

I have read on forums that this means that Morrigan is in love. To clarify 100%: If you DO NOT get mention of the  ring at the end of origins that means that Morrigan is still in love.

Now, I did talk to her but she is still in love.

Haven't finished awakenings but I'll post the results, if this hasn't been clarified.

Yeah-basically without using mods or anything, the way to get the Ring epilogue is to speak with her after the Gates of Denerim and ask her about last night. In triggering that conversation, she will go to "friend" status. Only by doing this conversation will you get the ring epilogue in Origins. Yet if you get the ring epilogue, you will not get  the "searching for Morrigan" epilogue in Awakening.

At this point though with where DA2 seems to be headed, it all seems like a moot point really.

Modifié par Brockololly, 13 juillet 2010 - 08:43 .

[adneate]

Acharnae wrote...

At the epilogue of Origins, I DO NOT get the mention of the ring (that she feels remorse etc).

Well I know for the ring epilogue to work she has to be flagged both as In Love and you currently have to have the ring in your inventory. Talking to Morrigan at any time after the Dark Ritual will cause the In Love flag to be removed and thus break the ending for Awakening.

Also to everyone talking about that useless DA2 forum, I wouldn't bother with going in there anymore. The Devs are pulling back and the whole thing has been taken over by morons, there is no discussion just noise. I know we try to have a sensible conversation here but most of those animals in the DA2 fourm don't even appreciate that.

[Brockololly]

adneate wrote..

Also to everyone talking about that useless DA2 forum, I wouldn't bother with going in there anymore. The Devs are pulling back and the whole thing has been taken over by morons, there is no discussion just noise. I know we try to have a sensible conversation here but most of those animals in the DA2 fourm don't even appreciate that.

Yeah, I'm just going in there looking for dev posts and to see when people occasionally post any new news. The debate threads there are rather worthless as its typical fanboy garbage decrying people who have reservations on the direction of the game as morons...

[revan11exile]

adneate wrote...

Acharnae wrote...

At the epilogue of Origins, I DO NOT get the mention of the ring (that she feels remorse etc).

Well I know for the ring epilogue to work she has to be flagged both as In Love and you currently have to have the ring in your inventory. Talking to Morrigan at any time after the Dark Ritual will cause the In Love flag to be removed and thus break the ending for Awakening.

Also to everyone talking about that useless DA2 forum, I wouldn't bother with going in there anymore. The Devs are pulling back and the whole thing has been taken over by morons, there is no discussion just noise. I know we try to have a sensible conversation here but most of those animals in the DA2 fourm don't even appreciate that.

Another thing u can do if u want the morrigan epilogue in awakening is to give her the GOLDEN MIRROR at the end of the game when u go back to camp and she will be back on love:wizard:

[adneate]

Acharnae wrote...

Well what I've read is that if you get the ring epilogue in origins, then Morrigan is tagged "not in love".
And that she turns to "not in love" if (like exactly you said) you talk to her after the dark ritual.

What has happened is I did talk to her but she is still in love mode. Assuming what I've read is right and that not getting a mention of the ring at origins epilogue means she's still in love.

I believe what Brock said was right, that the Ring epilogue can only be seen if you then break the romance for Awakening. Listen to him not me.

[Brockololly]

revan11exile wrote...

adneate wrote...

Acharnae wrote...

At the epilogue of Origins, I DO NOT get the mention of the ring (that she feels remorse etc).

Well I know for the ring epilogue to work she has to be flagged both as In Love and you currently have to have the ring in your inventory. Talking to Morrigan at any time after the Dark Ritual will cause the In Love flag to be removed and thus break the ending for Awakening.

Also to everyone talking about that useless DA2 forum, I wouldn't bother with going in there anymore. The Devs are pulling back and the whole thing has been taken over by morons, there is no discussion just noise. I know we try to have a sensible conversation here but most of those animals in the DA2 fourm don't even appreciate that.

Another thing u can do if u want the morrigan epilogue in awakening is to give her the GOLDEN MIRROR at the end of the game when u go back to camp and she will be back on love:wizard:

Yeah the ol' Golden mirror trick works if by chance you've saved it throughout your whole Origins playthrough.

Or if you're on PC just use the Morrigan Restoration mod by Terra_Ex, which fixes a bunch of Morrigan related dialogue and the endings.

[Addai]

Brockololly wrote...

Yeah, I'm just going in there looking for dev posts and to see when people occasionally post any new news. The debate threads there are rather worthless as its typical fanboy garbage decrying people who have reservations on the direction of the game as morons...

The devs haven't been posting much today.  Mostly "you kids behave" warnings.

[MoSa09]

Brockololly wrote...

Yeah the ol' Golden mirror trick works if by chance you've saved it throughout your whole Origins playthrough.

Or if you're on PC just use the Morrigan Restoration mod by Terra_Ex, which fixes a bunch of Morrigan related dialogue and the endings.

i thought that patch only worked if you start with a new character, it also works if i load a save right at Denerim and go from there? Because i would do just that and replay Awakening just to get that epilogue slide?

Maybe i wait til the new patch is out and to see if there is something about her now...

And Brock is right: currently, if you don't use any mods, you can either have the ring epilogue slide in Origins or the "looking for Morrigan" epilogue slide in Awakening. Currently, both are mutually exclusive, and it seems BW does not intend to ever fix that it seems

[MoSa09]

Acharnae wrote...

My question is this: if you get a mention of the ring at origins epilogue does that mean tha Morrigan is no longer in love mode?

bluntly speaking: yes

the ring epilogue is triggered only if you initiate a speach by clicking on her her farewell speech in Denerim. Afterwards, she is not flagged as being in love but flaggeg as just friedly.

Modifié par MoSa09, 13 juillet 2010 - 08:54 .

[blademaster7]

Acharnae wrote...

adneate wrote...

Acharnae wrote...

Well what I've read is that if you get the ring epilogue in origins, then Morrigan is tagged "not in love".
And that she turns to "not in love" if (like exactly you said) you talk to her after the dark ritual.

What has happened is I did talk to her but she is still in love mode. Assuming what I've read is right and that not getting a mention of the ring at origins epilogue means she's still in love.

I believe what Brock said was right, that the Ring epilogue can only be seen if you then break the romance for Awakening. Listen to him not me.

I'm not sure I fully understand you but maybe we are saying the same thing.
But to make it crystal clear and if someone knows and is kind enough to answer I'd appreciate it.

My question is this: if you get a mention of the ring at origins epilogue does that mean tha Morrigan is no longer in love mode?

Have you imported to Awakening? If you already did then there is only one way to find out. Load your post-epilogue save from Origins and go talk to Morrigan. If she responds with the "What comes my friend" line then the romance is no longer active.

[adneate]

Addai67 wrote...

The devs haven't been posting much today.  Mostly "you kids behave" warnings.

It's like trying to hold back the sea at this point, the whole thread should be locked.

[blademaster7]

MoSa09 wrote...

i thought that patch only worked if you start with a new character, it also works if i load a save right at Denerim and go from there? Because i would do just that and replay Awakening just to get that epilogue slide?

If you haven't started the final battle the mod will work just fine and you won't miss the .ppt slide in Awakening.

[MoSa09]

blademaster7 wrote...

good to know, hen i will get myself a glass ot two of my goold old whiskey until i can finally endure to go through the DR again and then i will go from there to create a second save, just to be sure, and see what the Awakening slide has to offer once the patch is done. Btw, shouldn't that be relased sometime soon?

[adneate]

MoSa09 wrote...

good to know, hen i will get myself a glass ot two of my goold old whiskey until i can finally endure to go through the DR again and then i will go from there to create a second save, just to be sure, and see what the Awakening slide has to offer once the patch is done. Btw, shouldn't that be relased sometime soon?

Try Canadian Rye Wiskey can't go wrong with Black Label Canadian Club classic. :innocent:

[blademaster7]

MoSa09 wrote...

good to know, hen i will get myself a glass ot two of my goold old whiskey until i can finally endure to go through the DR again and then i will go from there to create a second save, just to be sure, and see what the Awakening slide has to offer once the patch is done. Btw, shouldn't that be relased sometime soon?

You can import a save state from Lothering and get the Morrigan epilogue in Awakening. I know, it sounds incredibly stupid but it's possible.

I also have a suspicion that you can get the "sorrow and regret" message in you epilogue even if you declined the DR. The way to trigger it is also pretty weird and complicated. I haven't tried it but from what I checked in the toolset, it can happen and it doesn't seem unintentional either.

Modifié par blademaster7, 13 juillet 2010 - 09:06 .

[Master Shiori]

soignee wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

adneate wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

This to me looks like Hawke escaping Lothering. I wonder if there will be any moment in there that catches me the same way as when Loghain said, "Sound the retreat!"

Probably the moment when Hawke runs away effeminately down the road kicking his own butt with his heels as he cries.

Just like the warden from Flemeth's hut. Nostalgia.

If it is Lothering related, the corpses might be refugees that he tried to escort.

god my mind flashed to escort quests in WoW and I just face palmed hard. NO YOU STUPID BEAR YOU'RE DRAWING AGGRO I CAN'T HEALLLLL YOUUUU

Which bear?

Night Elf sleeps-on-the-job escort from Darkshore to Ashenvale or that Tauren imprisoned by the furbolgs?

Also, I really doubt Gaider would let Morrigan be possessed by Flemeth. Can't say why I have that feeling. Maybe because the whole "Morri ends up possessed by Flemeth" thing is a tad bit obvious and wouldn't even be a proper "gotcha!" moment.

What I'm wondering though is when exactly does Hawke encounter Flemeth? Do you think she was the one who rescued him from Lothering and set him on the journey to Free Marches?
In GI they said she kills some darkspawn while in her dragon form and then switches to human form and talks to Hawke. Would be interesting if his entire rise to power was actually orchestrated by Flemeth in the first place...

[Master Shiori]

ejoslin wrote...

It's impossible to have an intelligent conversation there. If you try to say anything that shows the smallest concern for the direction, you get shouted down.

I got called cute and entitled there. I was pretty amazed.

That's why I don't even try to have a proper discussion there.

I just post my thoughts and leave the topic for good, since any reply will either be from deluded fanboys bashing me for not joining in the Bioware worship or morons who have a bad case of "holyer then thou".
Neither is worth wasting time and words on...

[Herr Uhl]

Master Shiori wrote...

What I'm wondering though is when exactly does Hawke encounter Flemeth? Do you think she was the one who rescued him from Lothering and set him on the journey to Free Marches?
In GI they said she kills some darkspawn while in her dragon form and then switches to human form and talks to Hawke. Would be interesting if his entire rise to power was actually orchestrated by Flemeth in the first place...

That Flemeth saves him from darkspawn would be very reminiscent of origins. I think that she might have something to do with him leaving Ferelden though.

[MoSa09]

adneate wrote...
Try Canadian Rye Wiskey can't go wrong with Black Label Canadian Club classic. :innocent:

Actually, i believe my Whiskey is Canadian. Can't afford the real expensive scottish one, but Canadian one is fine too. And for todays purpose, even the american bourbon would do the trick

[GardenSnake]

Master Shiori wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

It's impossible to have an intelligent conversation there. If you try to say anything that shows the smallest concern for the direction, you get shouted down.

I got called cute and entitled there. I was pretty amazed.

That's why I don't even try to have a proper discussion there.

I just post my thoughts and leave the topic for good, since any reply will either be from deluded fanboys bashing me for not joining in the Bioware worship or morons who have a bad case of "holyer then thou".
Neither is worth wasting time and words on...

Ya, its pretty sad, I actually got, "its just a game, calm down" as a reply when I just posted that I thought VO was the wrong way to go. Its funny, that guy said its just a game, but seemed ready to give his life to defend it. I guess I'm just MYOPIC is all.