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[Sabriana]

Oh pfeh. I hoped she switched after Flemeth's death. Like Zevran switches after Taliesen's. Oh well, I won't have time to play him today after all. It's almost 10:30 PM and I'm getting tired.

Thanks for all your work, Ejoslin. I wish I could've helped you, but my knowledge of C++ is way below par.

[ejoslin]

ejoslin wrote...

 Ok, removed link.  Extract the whole thing into your /override folder.  I didn't include a readme.  The scripts in there are also needed as they fix Zevran and Alistair's dialogs there.  Let me know if you don't get it and I need to upload it again.  There are only 10 downloads permitted.

Edit: This is NOT the full ZDF, but if you have any part of it, just let these files overwrite the current files you have in there.  it's totally incompatible with endgame patches like Alistair Dialog patch or Dialog and endgame slides fixes or ser gilmore npc.  Yadada.  Those are all awesome, but so's mine!

Reposting this since it does NOT belong at the bottom of a page!  *grin*

Edit: This has not have the trigger to that one confrontation.  Once I figure out what's supposed to trigger that conversation, I'll look into fixing it.  But I don't want to fix one thing only to break another!  This only fixes her last line at the gates (I think -- totally untested by me).

Modifié par ejoslin, 10 avril 2010 - 12:22 .

[blademaster7]

Thanks for the file... Testing right now...

[ejoslin]

blademaster7 wrote...

Thanks for the file... Testing right now...

I'm hoping you have Zevran at Friendly as well.  His friendship dialog is amazing there.

Edit: WELL? Did it work?  I think I need to spend less time in the Morrigan threads.  I'm exhausted!

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 08:27 .

[blademaster7]

Yes Zevran is friendly and it works.... but the last line of Morrigan still wont trigger for me

[ejoslin]

blademaster7 wrote...

Yes Zevran is friendly and it works.... but the last line of Morrigan still wont trigger for me

Hmmm, very odd.  It SHOULD.  I'll look some more.  Ugh.

Do you by chance have another party_events installed anywhere?  Any mods that change either the post-landsmeet or gate conversations?  ZDF?  Because there is no reason, if you're able to tell her you love her, that that won't trigger now.

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 08:32 .

[blademaster7]

Wai... what.... the toolset says MORRIGAN_MAIN_KISS

Ok I'm really pissed of right now... if there is actually a kiss in there I will unplug my keyboard and smash my PC screen with it

EDIT: Scripting comments... Morrigan and the PC kiss.... ok I think I'll shoot my self in the leg right now...

Modifié par blademaster7, 09 avril 2010 - 08:31 .

[ejoslin]

Yeh, I told you that. There's supposed to be a kiss there, but the kisses are REALLY hard to put in. That's what Charsen is putting in for the Zevran one. I took out that action, so the whole dialog should work now.

What other mods do you have installed? There may be a conflict there. If you installed ZDF or ADP or an older version of DT (before .93a) you may have to remove party_events dlg/dlb and put in the one I just sent you to get my change to work. 

Edit: What was going on was very similar to the problem at Flemeth's hut.  Since the action couldn't be done, it was cutting off the entire dialog prematurely.

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 08:35 .

[blademaster7]

I uninstalled my other dialogue mods and now I have yours. Zevran's speech works fine.



The kiss with Morrigan is supposed to be before she says the (missing) last line. It just doesn't trigger...

[ejoslin]

No, I know where it's supposed to be. It will not happen. I'm REALLY surprised that my change didn't work. I don't see anything else that would interfere. I'm not surprised that the Zevran one works because the scripts I gave you do a LOT of fixing (though the party_events is needed because of a few problems that appear with the "in love dialogs"), and should make the friendship ones work perfectly with any party_events.dlg file.



Hmmmm, it's frustrating for me because I can't test it myself. Could you send me your savegame there via rapid share if you know how?

[Sabriana]

ejoslin wrote...

Yeh, I told you that. There's supposed to be a kiss there, but the kisses are REALLY hard to put in. That's what Charsen is putting in for the Zevran one. I took out that action, so the whole dialog should work now.

What other mods do you have installed? There may be a conflict there. If you installed ZDF or ADP or an older version of DT (before .93a) you may have to remove party_events dlg/dlb and put in the one I just sent you to get my change to work. 

Edit: What was going on was very similar to the problem at Flemeth's hut.  Since the action couldn't be done, it was cutting off the entire dialog prematurely.

Blade, the kiss won't trigger if it's the same situation as the Zevran one. It would have to be modded in by someone who knows how to do cut-scenes.

So, they simply just left things dangle, Ejoslin? They decided not to do the action and just let the whole thing fall off?

[blademaster7]

I guess I could try to upload my save...

[ejoslin]

Sabriana wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Yeh, I told you that. There's supposed to be a kiss there, but the kisses are REALLY hard to put in. That's what Charsen is putting in for the Zevran one. I took out that action, so the whole dialog should work now.

What other mods do you have installed? There may be a conflict there. If you installed ZDF or ADP or an older version of DT (before .93a) you may have to remove party_events dlg/dlb and put in the one I just sent you to get my change to work. 

Edit: What was going on was very similar to the problem at Flemeth's hut.  Since the action couldn't be done, it was cutting off the entire dialog prematurely.

Blade, the kiss won't trigger if it's the same situation as the Zevran one. It would have to be modded in by someone who knows how to do cut-scenes.

So, they simply just left things dangle, Ejoslin? They decided not to do the action and just let the whole thing fall off?

It's not the only time in that area that they did that.  A hostile Alistair did as well, ending the entire scene before you were able to talk to your love interest.  YES I fixed that as well.

Edit: Bioware should pay me!

Second edit: And Sabriana is exactly right.  Adding the kisses there is very complicated.  Charsen figured it out, and is making custom kisses, and if I can figure out how to add them (or if I can follow any directions someone else gives me), I'll add them everywhere the script notes say they should be.

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 08:43 .

[blademaster7]

Sabriana wrote...


So, they simply just left things dangle, Ejoslin? They decided not to do the action and just let the whole thing fall off?

Well, **** them.

If you read the VO comments you'll want to strangle a kitten

VO: comment  "this is very hard for her to say -- she will never see him again"

Scripting comments: ACTION: Morrigan and the PC kiss

And yet the entire thing is missing

Modifié par blademaster7, 09 avril 2010 - 08:44 .

[Sabriana]

Yeah, I know you fixed it. The whole Zevran romance is like an entirely new thing and much more intense. You and Charsen did a great job.

Who knew Morrigan got the same treatment? I thought she was one of the mains, the other being Alistair. So much for that thought. But then again, Alistair was pretty screwed up as well before you fixed him.

[ejoslin]

Alistair also was supposed to give kisses under a few circumstances. He's not completely fixed. But he's MUCH better now!

Edit: Again, blademaster, this is true of ALL the romances.  It's very difficult to put them in because of the way the scene is set up.  The stage is unique, there are weird cinematics in it, and they couldn't get normal dialogs and scripting straight -- I'm not surprised they couldn't get the kisses in.

Second edit: I thought Charsen was going to start punting kittens when he first started trying to put the kisses in. I know he thought it was just going to be an easy thing, and it took him over a week to get it.

Third edit: Even if Morrigan gets kisses put in by modders, I pretty much guarantee you it won't go THERE.  It will go after she says that. 

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 08:48 .

[blademaster7]

By the looks of it she's supposed to give the kiss and then say the last line.



Since they couldn't get the kiss right, it cuts you off and the dialogue ends

[Sabriana]

*headdesk*

What were they doing? It's not as if the kiss animations weren't there. I know the dialogues are pretty complicated to move around. Charsen tried to explain it to me, but he lost me quite early on. He was even nice enough to put up a tutorial. I really have to go and get that. I'll do some looking over the weekend.

[ejoslin]

blademaster7 wrote...

By the looks of it she's supposed to give the kiss and then say the last line.

Since they couldn't get the kiss right, it cuts you off and the dialogue ends

Yes, that's what I said. And that's what I changed, which is why I'm surprised you're not getting the last line.

Edit: Sabriana, the dialogs cannot be moved around at all.  You can paste links, but you can't move the dialogs.  That's why I am saying that even if the kiss does get put in, it will NOT get put in where the VO notes say it should be.  

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 08:59 .

[blademaster7]

I need to smash something....

They are selling us feast day prank gifts and they wouldn't bother fixing a simple animation that's supposed to be the climax of the romance...

And all this time I was ****ing about how terrible is the romance with Morrigan. Of course it would be terrible if she says "I was foolish for allowing my self... bla bla bla" and then they cut you off from the final kiss and her goodbye....

Is it too late to vote for Valve?

Modifié par blademaster7, 09 avril 2010 - 08:59 .

[ejoslin]

blademaster7 wrote...

I need to smash something....

They are selling us feast day prank gifts and they wouldn't bother fixing a simple animation...

And all this time I was ****ing about how terrible is the romance with Morrigan. Of course it would be terrible if she says "I was foolish for allowing my self... bla bla bla" and then they cut you off from the final kiss and her goodbye....

Is it too late to vote for Valve?

blademaster7, you have hit on the reason I learned how to mod.  I saw the Zevran dialog in the toolset, and went RED.  I worked for a week trying to get his kisses in before begging Charsen for help.  And he didn't have an easy time of it. Then I started fixing other things, and my project got bigger and bigger and now it's almost epic!

Edit: As bad as the Morrigan problem is, imagine if you weren't even able to tell her you love her at all.  If there were these amazing goodbyes that, well, you never saw.  Yeh, NONE of the romances get the kiss, but it's being worked on right now.  By modders.

Second edit: I think blademaster7 is too upset to hear me right now 

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 09:02 .

[Sabriana]

blademaster7 wrote...

I need to smash something....

They are selling us feast day prank gifts and they wouldn't bother fixing a simple animation that's supposed to be the climax of the romance...

And all this time I was ****ing about how terrible is the romance with Morrigan. Of course it would be terrible if she says "I was foolish for allowing my self... bla bla bla" and then they cut you off from the final kiss and her goodbye....

Is it too late to vote for Valve?

Oh man, that's even worse than Zevran's mess up. She does come across completely different, no wonder people b!tched about her coldness.

Edit: Yeah Ejo, but at least he didn't come off as cold. I absolutely love the way it plays out now, it's 10,000 raised to infinity better than before, but at least the friendship dialogue was sweet not coldish sounding.

Modifié par Sabriana, 09 avril 2010 - 09:06 .

[ejoslin]

Sabriana wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...

I need to smash something....

They are selling us feast day prank gifts and they wouldn't bother fixing a simple animation that's supposed to be the climax of the romance...

And all this time I was ****ing about how terrible is the romance with Morrigan. Of course it would be terrible if she says "I was foolish for allowing my self... bla bla bla" and then they cut you off from the final kiss and her goodbye....

Is it too late to vote for Valve?

Oh man, that's even worse than Zevran's mess up. She does come across completely different, no wonder people b!tched about her coldness.

Sabriana, do you really believe that? Or are you already used to getting Zev's love dialog?

[blademaster7]

ejoslin wrote...Second edit: I think blademaster7 is too upset to hear me right now 

Sorry what? I wasn't paying attention...

I think I broke my screen. I'm typing this from my ipod. Just kidding

I can't believe how stupid the programmers are... They put a kiss for Bella which adds nothing... they program your dog digging his way to China and Oghren is fainting all over the place...

But when they're asked to add a simple kiss for the final battle... nope they couldn't do it. They're busy selling feast day gifts...

Just when she's about to warm up and confess her feelings they cut her off..... Yeah let those idiots that spend 60+ hours romancing her  believe that she's a cold hearted **** and she will eat the child for breakfast....

Nice one Bioware..

There are still some emotional moments left in there don't get me wrong, but the part that is missing..... damn!

[ejoslin]

Sabriana wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...

I need to smash something....

They are selling us feast day prank gifts and they wouldn't bother fixing a simple animation that's supposed to be the climax of the romance...

And all this time I was ****ing about how terrible is the romance with Morrigan. Of course it would be terrible if she says "I was foolish for allowing my self... bla bla bla" and then they cut you off from the final kiss and her goodbye....

Is it too late to vote for Valve?

Oh man, that's even worse than Zevran's mess up. She does come across completely different, no wonder people b!tched about her coldness.

Edit: Yeah Ejo, but at least he didn't come off as cold. I absolutely love the way it plays out now, it's 10,000 raised to infinity better than before, but at least the friendship dialogue was sweet not coldish sounding.

Heh, you have forgotten that there was only one selection you would possibly even consider taking because the rest of his comments were extremely, ummm, off putting if you chose them.  We were lucky that there was ONE good response there that could have gone either way, though his tone was off.  But the other three?  They were awful if told to someone he was supposed to love.

Edit: Sorry if I sound worked up.  The Zevran thread is... doing things... to me right now.  I'm not quite in my right mind!

second edit: blademaster7, if you want to try your hand at modding, I do have a b2b in my zev dialog fix project.  You could always play around with that and try to get that line working.  For the life on me, I can't imagine why taking out that action didn't unbug it.  I think you may have a different party_events.dlg/dlb in there that is being looked at, but I have no clue!  And I can't test 

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 avril 2010 - 09:28 .