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[phaonica]

Brockololly wrote...

phaonica wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

And apparently the DA2 sneak peak at Comic Con this week is covered with NDA's, so don't expect to hear much of anything about it...

Yeah, supposedly Priestly will be blogging about it, but I'm sorry if I don't take his word as an objective view on how DA2 is shaping up....<_<

Well, whatever, I guess. The speculation is pointless, and the cycle of hope/disappointment is exhausting, apparently you can't be rationally disappointed, yet optimistic, you can only be a hater. Thankfully, all of this has only slightly reduced my enthusiasm for Origins. I may have to turn my attention to another game (Starcraft2) for a while so I don't keep compulsively checking the DA2 forum, though.

[Addai]

phaonica wrote...

Well, whatever, I guess. The speculation is pointless, and the cycle of hope/disappointment is exhausting, apparently you can't be rationally disappointed, yet optimistic, you can only be a hater. Thankfully, all of this has only slightly reduced my enthusiasm for Origins. I may have to turn my attention to another game (Starcraft2) for a while so I don't keep compulsively checking the DA2 forum, though.

I started playing The Witcher last night, but I suck at it.  I'm just not a gamer.  It takes such a heroic effort for me to get over the gameplay learning curve.

[MoSa09]

Addai67 wrote...


I started playing The Witcher last night, but I suck at it.  I'm just not a gamer.  It takes such a heroic effort for me to get over the gameplay learning curve.

what's troubling? the battles? gameplay?

Modifié par MoSa09, 19 juillet 2010 - 10:50 .

[Addai]

MoSa09 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...


I started playing The Witcher last night, but I suck at it.  I'm just not a gamer.  It takes such a heroic effort for me to get over the gameplay learning curve.

what's troubling? the battles? gameplay?

Yes and yes.

[KnightofPhoenix]

phaonica wrote...
Well, whatever, I guess. The speculation is pointless, and the cycle of hope/disappointment is exhausting, apparently you can't be rationally disappointed, yet optimistic, you can only be a hater. Thankfully, all of this has only slightly reduced my enthusiasm for Origins. I may have to turn my attention to another game (Starcraft2) for a while so I don't keep compulsively checking the DA2 forum, though.

Do you like StarCraft for its gameplay or the lore (or both)? I love the StarCraft lore a lot. Great characters, great story, dark universe and all that.

But as I tried to check Blizzard forums in order to discuss interesting lore issue and characters, the sheer stupidity there made me run away never looking back.  

[Giggles_Manically]

Blizzard fans scare the bejesus out of me sometimes.



The people on the TOR forums, or most outside of this one also scare me.

[ximena]

bl00dsh0t wrote...

MoSa09 wrote...

bl00dsh0t wrote...

Ahh well we'll get through it somehow, we have our morrigan support crew to cry with if it all goes apesh*t

I am already settled, Ximenas comics are my officially Dragon Age Morrigan related universe, and this is how i also picture my Warden to be (he just looks different than Edric, a shame i am not an artist like ximena to make a happy "my Warden and Morrigan with child" myself i could use as a wall paper. All that Biware has to offer is nothing more than fanfiction to me at the moment.

Hehe amen to that dude, amen Aedan is dead, long live Eldric!!!

Ohgod. Haha. I appreciate the support on the story guys. Unfortunately no new pages for a while. Schoolwork is currently eating my time.
 

phaonica wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

phaonica
wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

And apparently the
DA2 sneak peak at Comic Con this week is covered with NDA's, so don't
expect to hear much of anything about it...

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Yeah, supposedly Priestly will be blogging
about it, but I'm sorry if I don't take his word as an objective view on
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Well,
whatever, I guess. The speculation is pointless, and the cycle of
hope/disappointment is exhausting, apparently you can't be rationally
disappointed, yet optimistic, you can only be a hater. Thankfully, all
of this has only slightly reduced my enthusiasm for Origins. I may have
to turn my attention to another game (Starcraft2) for a while so I don't
keep compulsively checking the DA2 forum, though.

I've already stopped visiting the DA2 forums. Everytime I go there,  I just end up going on a facepalm marathon.

Modifié par ximena, 19 juillet 2010 - 11:03 .

[Giggles_Manically]

You should see the absurd lengths and plot holes that people want to see to fit in the OGB.



It makes Lost look linear and clear. Apparently most of them think that MOrrigan flies into Orlasis hooks up with some lucky warden, flies back, and then smites the warden for turning her down.



Unhuh.

[Brockololly]

Game Informer has  a super duper high res map of Thedas up, as well as an interactive map with some neat lore tidbits on various places: http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2010/07/19/interactive-map-of-the-world-of-dragon-age.aspx

And they finally updated the DA2 hub- they'll be back 7/21

Modifié par Brockololly, 19 juillet 2010 - 11:10 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Nice find Brock. Thanks, I LOVE maps (kind of like Loghain)!

[MoSa09]

Addai67 wrote...

MoSa09 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...


I started playing The Witcher last night, but I suck at it.  I'm just not a gamer.  It takes such a heroic effort for me to get over the gameplay learning curve.

what's troubling? the battles? gameplay?

Yes and yes.

let's see then.

A quick battle guide.

With his main weapons, Geralt can choose three different styles of fighting: strong fight, quick fight or group fight.

The group one is a bit tough, it only works with small groups of weak monster. Tougher ones will swarm you and kill you from you behind. I'd recommend, as Geralt is quick on his feet, simply dash and evade if you have multiple targets and try to deal a few single strikes every now and then until you're more used to the game and simply ignore group style until then.

Leave you with the remaining two. Strong fight deals much damage but is slow, quick deals less damage but is well, quick. Easy trick: quick enemies you can't hit by using the strong style, they will dash every attack. So simply try with strong and if you can't hit anyone, switch to quick fighting. After a while, you figure it out.

Later on, Geralt has two swords., A steel one, only for human enemies, and a silver one, (just for beasts, it will deal next to no damage to human targets). The fighting styles for both are the same. Additional weapons can't use the three fighting styles, ignore them and focus on those two weapons.

If you miss the point to click to continue an attack, press pause and take your time and click, press pause again, makes it a bit easier. Cause even if you get the timing right but misses clicking on the target, Geralt will stop the attack.

Moreover, all attacks will be repeated. Geralt starts with a a combo of two attacks, that is one click. Than he starts with the first one again. If you upgrade to the next level, he learn a third part and so on. Once you figured what he does for strong and quick (he does the same on both steel and silver sword), it gets easier, as you know his moves

Depending on your difficulty, alchemy is useful but not necessary. The healing potions are useful, and the one called snowstorm. That one slows down all enemies while Geralt gets quicker for a while, very helpful.

Hope that helps, for gameplay questions, i need specifics of whats causing issues.

[Herr Uhl]

Who wants to bet that Isabella was from Llomerynn?

[Brockololly]

I'm wondering if all of the locations are central to DA2 in some way? Will we be visting each of those places? I can't imagine visiting Par Vollen, Minrathrous and Val Royeaux all in one game- that would be more than a little premature e-map-ulation, I think.

But it does seem like the elves play a rather central role in some of the locations- I'm thinking that Arl Foreshadow hint about Arlathan survivors might come into play...

Modifié par Brockololly, 19 juillet 2010 - 11:23 .

[Herr Uhl]

Sundermount above Kirkwall possibly. I don't think that we get to visit Par Vollen, Minathrous or Val Royeaux though. They are important enough to be mentioned in their own right.



And in other news I finally found Jader, it's right next to Orzammar.

[Brockololly]

Herr Uhl wrote...
Sundermount above Kirkwall possibly. I don't think that we get to visit Par Vollen, Minathrous or Val Royeaux though. They are important enough to be mentioned in their own right.

I'm wondering if maybe given the narrative structure though we see some of these more far off areas, but don't actually get to play as Hawke in them.

Then again, its a 10 year time span- that seems like plenty of travelling time.

[MoSa09]

Brockololly wrote...

I'm wondering if maybe given the narrative structure though we see some of these more far off areas, but don't actually get to play as Hawke in them.

Then again, its a 10 year time span- that seems like plenty of travelling time.

i doubt that. As DA 2 is advertized as Hawkes story, i can't imagine they're great parts of the game where you can explore major cities that could be centre of the next Dragon Age game with a differet character. I'd not even be surprised if this time, we cannot control the party, but they act completely by themselves like in Mass Effect. But for now this  is completely guessing on my part, there was no hint at all this might be the case

Modifié par MoSa09, 19 juillet 2010 - 11:43 .

[phaonica]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

phaonica wrote...
Well, whatever, I guess. The speculation is pointless, and the cycle of hope/disappointment is exhausting, apparently you can't be rationally disappointed, yet optimistic, you can only be a hater. Thankfully, all of this has only slightly reduced my enthusiasm for Origins. I may have to turn my attention to another game (Starcraft2) for a while so I don't keep compulsively checking the DA2 forum, though.

Do you like StarCraft for its gameplay or the lore (or both)? I love the StarCraft lore a lot. Great characters, great story, dark universe and all that.

Both. I'm really not generally into the sci fi thing, but Starcraft had such an awesome story and really great controls. I played Warcraft 1 and 2 and those were my first RTS games, and they had stories, to an extent, but not like Starcraft did.

But as I tried to check Blizzard forums in order to discuss interesting lore issue and characters, the sheer stupidity there made me run away never looking back.  

Haha! I bet. There are millions of people in those forums, I cannot fathom how much stupid is in there.

Modifié par phaonica, 19 juillet 2010 - 11:50 .

[phaonica]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Nice find Brock. Thanks, I LOVE maps (kind of like Loghain)!

I love maps, too. Especially fantasy maps.

[phaonica]

ximena wrote...

Well,
whatever, I guess. The speculation is pointless, and the cycle of
hope/disappointment is exhausting, apparently you can't be rationally
disappointed, yet optimistic, you can only be a hater. Thankfully, all
of this has only slightly reduced my enthusiasm for Origins. I may have
to turn my attention to another game (Starcraft2) for a while so I don't
keep compulsively checking the DA2 forum, though.

I've already stopped visiting the DA2 forums. Everytime I go there,  I just end up going on a facepalm marathon.

I keep going back, out of morbid curiousity. Damn it, I was coming to the forum to distract me from my homework.  

[Addai]

MoSa09 wrote...

Hope that helps, for gameplay questions, i need specifics of whats causing issues.

Thank you, that does.  I was figuring out from a game guide that Geralt's fighting style is very important.  I still haven't quite figured out this re-starting an attack thing- this was very frustrating last night, when he would just stand there and do nothing while enemies hacked at him- but I don't want to hijack too much.

[Brockololly]

MoSa09 wrote...

i doubt that. As DA 2 is advertized as Hawkes story, i can't imagine they're great parts of the game where you can explore major cities that could be centre of the next Dragon Age game with a differet character. I'd not even be surprised if this time, we cannot control the party, but they act completely by themselves like in Mass Effect. But for now this  is completely guessing on my part, there was no hint at all this might be the case

Ugh... not controlling party members or otherwise gimping the party mechanics would be a deal breaker.

As to what I was referring to though, I was thinking more along the lines of the narrative structure. Say for instance Cassandra the Seeker is travelling across Thedas searching for those who know about Hawke- maybe her travels take her to Minrathrous or Val Royeaux and we see those spots in cutscenes or something- just a little taste of those locations, perhaps? Of course that would depend on how long it takes to travel across parts of Thedas too...

[Addai]

Brockololly wrote...

Game Informer has  a super duper high res map of Thedas up, as well as an interactive map with some neat lore tidbits on various places: http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2010/07/19/interactive-map-of-the-world-of-dragon-age.aspx

Ohh, very nice!  I love maps, too.  Interesting that Halamshiral has a map marker (the elf in me notices such things).  I take it that is a "ruins" marker.

[MoSa09]

Addai67 wrote...

MoSa09 wrote...

Hope that helps, for gameplay questions, i need specifics of whats causing issues.

Thank you, that does.  I was figuring out from a game guide that Geralt's fighting style is very important.  I still haven't quite figured out this re-starting an attack thing- this was very frustrating last night, when he would just stand there and do nothing while enemies hacked at him- but I don't want to hijack too much.

I try to make an example.

At the start, you choose one fighting style. If you click on a target, Geralt makes an attack. Lets just assume its a slash from up left to down right. Close before he is finished, the cursor that looks like a sword will for a few seconds appear to be a burning sword. If you click on the very same target then again, Geralt will make a second attack, a combo attack. This time, lets assume he slashes from up right to left down. This second attack, if it works, deals more damage than a normal attack would do.

Afterwards, he is finished with his combos. and the next time you click, he is making the first attack again. But note that the burning sword indicating a combo attack will still appear and even though he repeats the first attacks, its considered to be a combo attack.

Now, if you level up and learn the next higher talent on the tree, he learn a third attack, that, naturally, follows after the second. Lets say he stabs right into the middle of the opponents body. This will, like the second, only trigger if you click the when the burning swords appears and only if you click on the target. If you miss timing or place at any point, Geralt starts anew with attack number one.

After he dealt attack number three, he will start again with number one and so forth. He uses the same moves for strong fight with both swords and a different set of moves for both sowrds with quick fight. If you pay attention for a while, you know exactly what he does and when the burning cursor will appear and so greatly increases the chances to not miss them.

[MKDAWUSS]

Brockololly wrote...

Game Informer has  a super duper high res map of Thedas up, as well as an interactive map with some neat lore tidbits on various places: http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2010/07/19/interactive-map-of-the-world-of-dragon-age.aspx

And they finally updated the DA2 hub- they'll be back 7/21

And I noticed Honnleath is missing on that map. Also, icons for locations in Ferelden differ from the rest of Thedas (see Dragon's Peak vs. other mountains; Denerim and Orzammar vs. other capitals)...

[Barbarossa2010]

The Witcher, huh? I might just have to try it. Witcher 2 looks fantastic. I finally finished Oblivion and all I can say is ...Wow. I can honestly say I will be looking forward to a sequel and will pre-order with no qualms whatsoever. Can't say that for DA2. Focusing on Thedas and not the Warden is just...well..no, for me.

I was going to jump right into Red Dead two nights ago after finishing Oblivion, but decided to go ahead and start KOTOR instead, as Blademaster, Brock or Terra_Ex directed me to do. I actually am enjoying it and can honestly say it feels extremely Bioware-ish, even if it is ancient beyond all reason.

Anyway @Addai, try KOTOR if you haven't yet. It's very amusing and very easy to pick up.

Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 20 juillet 2010 - 12:35 .