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[adneate]

Somebody said it again, DA romances versus ME2 "romances".

Slayer, you're right. Female Shepard has Thane, who makes the best possible romance subplot I've ever seen in a game.

[phaonica]

adneate wrote...

Somebody said it again, DA romances versus ME2 "romances".

I'll get around to playing Mass Effect. Eventually.


Why is it okay to romance all these creatures in Mass Effect, but an awakened darkspawn grosses people out?

[adneate]

phaonica wrote...

I'll get around to playing Mass Effect. Eventually.


Why is it okay to romance all these creatures in Mass Effect, but an awakened darkspawn grosses people out?

I don't know it's a fine line you walk in that game about how much freaky you'll accept before you get off the Alien bus.

It starts pretty human-like with Liara T'Soni.


Gets stranger in ME2 with Thane the space frog.


Next thing you know you're with Garrus.


Makes Elves and Dwarves a real moot point don't it?

[phaonica]

adneate wrote...

phaonica wrote...

I'll get around to playing Mass Effect. Eventually.


Why is it okay to romance all these creatures in Mass Effect, but an awakened darkspawn grosses people out?

I don't know it's a fine line you walk in that game about how much freaky you'll accept before you get off the Alien bus.

It starts pretty human-like with Liara T'Soni.

Gets stranger in ME2 with Thane the space frog.

Next thing you know you're with Garrus.

Makes Elves and Dwarves a real moot point don't it?

Lol, yeah it does. I just think its funny that those characters are acceptable romance options, but a potentially "cleaned up" darkspawn is  

[Addai]

Brockololly wrote...

But I agree- I don't understand why games are trying to mimc films. Playing a video game has its own set of strengths and I think by making games more "cinematic" ultimately kills any kind of creativity and innovation in making video games stand apart. No offense to BioWare or any othe people making cinematic games, but if I want to watch a movie, I'll go watch something directed by a Christopher Nolan , Tarantino or a real film maker. Its like trying to compare the best video game character's "acting" to that of a real person- the technology for games isn't there yet, so its goofy to try and take games that route, IMO.

Maker, don't try to say that in the DA2 forum.  I've said the same thing there but there are people who see it as personal offense against their favored playstyle.  If I ask why someone would want to watch a slow, badly animated movie with constant interruptions, that's a grave insult. 

Modifié par Addai67, 20 juillet 2010 - 06:07 .

[Kryyptehk]

You can romance darkspawn? Since when? Also, I romanced Thane, though it is far from the best romance in gaming.

[Addai]

adneate wrote...

Next thing you know you're with Garrus.

I saw a fanart tonight with a naked femShep and Garrus and thought WTF is that?!  If that showed up in my boudoir, I'd be reaching for a giant can of Raid, not the personal lubricant.

Modifié par Addai67, 20 juillet 2010 - 06:09 .

[adneate]

phaonica wrote...

Lol, yeah it does. I just think its funny that those characters are acceptable romance options, but a potentially "cleaned up" darkspawn is  

Ha it gets even better when you find out Garrus's bodily fluids cause anaphylactic shock in humans when injested and Thane's skin is hallucinogenic. Holy too much information batman . . .

[Addai]

phaonica wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

adneate wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

I can see I haven't missed much.

Yeah that is the technical definition of RPG going way back to the beginning, if you kill things for XP and increase in level while doing quests it's an RPG dispite the acute lack of RP. Japanese RPGs are even worse since you just listen to awful dialogue between predefined characters for hours and hours (not to discredit the good ones like Valkyria Chronicles, Dragon Quest and Chrono Trigger) the genre is defined by a style of gameplay mechanics not a style of storytelling. One of the reasons I fell so hard for Black Isle was their storytelling which was totally unique to me at the time.

Man, I came at gaming from an entirely different angle- MUSH roleplay, which is completely text-based, character and story focused, with a dim view of mindless looting and killing.  My husband had been trying to get me into video games and I sniffed at them until I tried FO3, Oblivion, and then DAO which convinced me toon games could offer smart and literate roleplay.  I think my previous impression was the right one.

Oh noes, if you've started with those games, you've pretty much seen the best that first person sandbox adventures have to offer, currently, imo. Bioware is apparently unique among developers in their choice-driven games. Most developers won't touch those types of games because they have to spend money on so much content that 90% of their players won't even see.

There are some very good stories in linear games. Starcraft and Warcraft are both real time strategy games with good storylines. Bioshock is a first person shooter with a good story. The Legend of Zelda games have good stories with lots of puzzled dungeons to solve.

But if you are looking for a 'role playing' game... I don't know, maybe the Fable series? I've heard Gothic is good, but it might be too primitive. Arx Fatalis was also good, but primitive. I just looked up this one, but I don't know anyone who has played it: "Dark Messiah of Might and Magic: Elements".?

It's alright.  I think my alternative is curling up with a good book rather than a sub-par game.  I should just skip games and read their companion novels.  I played all of ten minutes of Myst back in the day, but I read and enjoyed one or maybe even two novels based on the lore.  I've heard The Witcher books are popular in Europe.

[Addai]

adneate wrote...

phaonica wrote...

Lol, yeah it does. I just think its funny that those characters are acceptable romance options, but a potentially "cleaned up" darkspawn is  

Ha it gets even better when you find out Garrus's bodily fluids cause anaphylactic shock in humans when injested and Thane's skin is hallucinogenic. Holy too much information batman . . .

  Freaky deaky.

[adneate]

Addai67 wrote...

I've heard The Witcher books are popular in Europe.

The game is based on the books, apparently they're written by a popular Polish author.

[Kryyptehk]

@Addai, I usually don't read companion novels because (in my opinion) they tend to be pretty subpar. The best one I've read was the Halo ones and they were "meh".

[phaonica]

Addai67 wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

But I agree- I don't understand why games are trying to mimc films. Playing a video game has its own set of strengths and I think by making games more "cinematic" ultimately kills any kind of creativity and innovation in making video games stand apart. No offense to BioWare or any othe people making cinematic games, but if I want to watch a movie, I'll go watch something directed by a Christopher Nolan , Tarantino or a real film maker. Its like trying to compare the best video game character's "acting" to that of a real person- the technology for games isn't there yet, so its goofy to try and take games that route, IMO.

Maker, don't try to say that in the DA2 forum.  I've said the same thing there but there are people who see it as personal offense against their favored playstyle.  If I ask why someone would want to watch a slow, badly animated movie with constant interruptions, that's a grave insult. 

This thread is our sanctuary. I'm actually a little surprised it hasn't been invaded by trolls more.

[Cuddlezarro]

adneate wrote...

phaonica wrote...

Lol, yeah it does. I just think its funny that those characters are acceptable romance options, but a potentially "cleaned up" darkspawn is  

Ha it gets even better when you find out Garrus's bodily fluids cause anaphylactic shock in humans when injested and Thane's skin is hallucinogenic. Holy too much information batman . . .

Garrus has a sexy as hell voice though...

but yeah if Garrus was human I would be all over him but he isnt hes a space dinosaur alien sniper batman =3

so Garrus is just regulated to bro status

[phaonica]

adneate wrote...

phaonica wrote...

Lol, yeah it does. I just think its funny that those characters are acceptable romance options, but a potentially "cleaned up" darkspawn is  

Ha it gets even better when you find out Garrus's bodily fluids cause anaphylactic shock in humans when injested and Thane's skin is hallucinogenic. Holy too much information batman . . .

Are you sh!tting me, really? That's uh... pretty wild... But is it worth it?  
lol

[phaonica]

Kryyptehk wrote...

You can romance darkspawn? Since when? Also, I romanced Thane, though it is far from the best romance in gaming.

No, you can't. It's just something crazy that I'd want in the game, cause I'm a freak.

[ximena]

Yay for more Morrigan fanart!



By this artist.

[Kryyptehk]

Ha, I want to romance Flemeth for delicious drama, I think that is worst than darkspawn. Don't deny that it is. Lol

[adneate]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Garrus has a sexy as hell voice though...

but yeah if Garrus was human I would be all over him but he isnt hes a space dinosaur alien sniper batman =3

so Garrus is just regulated to bro status

Yeah I like Garrus but you've got to draw the line somewhere, and anaphylactic shock is that line for me. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should . . .

[Kryyptehk]

@xemina, that is obscenely awesome

[phaonica]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

adneate wrote...

phaonica wrote...

Lol, yeah it does. I just think its funny that those characters are acceptable romance options, but a potentially "cleaned up" darkspawn is  

Ha it gets even better when you find out Garrus's bodily fluids cause anaphylactic shock in humans when injested and Thane's skin is hallucinogenic. Holy too much information batman . . .

Garrus has a sexy as hell voice though...

Well that would send up the initial attraction flags, for sure. He's that last guy in the pictures you posted, though, right? The one with no lips, lol. The anaphylactic shock guy? You'd have to be ... creative ... in a romance with that guy.

[Cuddlezarro]

adneate wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Garrus has a sexy as hell voice though...

but yeah if Garrus was human I would be all over him but he isnt hes a space dinosaur alien sniper batman =3

so Garrus is just regulated to bro status

Yeah I like Garrus but you've got to draw the line somewhere, and anaphylactic shock is that line for me. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should . . .

I didnt even know about the anaphylactic shock part...

hell I just found out about Thane making you high and giving you rashes for the first time earlier today...

...god im so glad thane didnt turn out to be the gay romance option because dude hes a fish person with an annoying voice that gives you skin rashes just by touching him...(not like they kept any of the gay romances in either games outside femshep/liara)

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 20 juillet 2010 - 06:30 .

[phaonica]

Kryyptehk wrote...

Ha, I want to romance Flemeth for delicious drama, I think that is worst than darkspawn. Don't deny that it is. Lol

Well, she's got a smoking body, from pictures of seen of her with Alistair, lol.

[Cuddlezarro]

phaonica wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

adneate wrote...

phaonica wrote...

Lol, yeah it does. I just think its funny that those characters are acceptable romance options, but a potentially "cleaned up" darkspawn is  

Ha it gets even better when you find out Garrus's bodily fluids cause anaphylactic shock in humans when injested and Thane's skin is hallucinogenic. Holy too much information batman . . .

Garrus has a sexy as hell voice though...

Well that would send up the initial attraction flags, for sure. He's that last guy in the pictures you posted, though, right? The one with no lips, lol. The anaphylactic shock guy? You'd have to be ... creative ... in a romance with that guy.

yes thats Garrus and he is completely awesome...but romancing him...no just no

[ximena]

Kryyptehk wrote...

Ha, I want to romance Flemeth for delicious drama, I think that is worst than darkspawn. Don't deny that it is. Lol

*snorts* Ahaha. For some reason, I tried imagining her saying Morrigan's "'Tis cold in my tent" line.