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[Jacks Smirking Revenge]

Interesting so if that is Lothering when we see her. I wonder what happens when our Wardens kill her a year or so into the game. Well not kill but whatever you do to Flemeth since the codex/Morrigan seem quite sure she will be back.

Modifié par Jacks Smirking Revenge, 21 juillet 2010 - 12:17 .

[ximena]

So I was going through my Morrigan favorites for my massive submission dump into the Morrigan group at deviantART since I've been made co-founder. And I found this! Moar Morrigan goodness!




From this artist.

And oooh. New screenie. Interesting.

Modifié par ximena, 21 juillet 2010 - 02:43 .

[Addai]

adneate wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

I'm obviously way clueless about game lingo.  I go into a thread about "not watering down roleplay elements" and all they're talking about is the type of loot that's available.

You guys were right.  I thought I knew what a RPG was, and was so, so wrong. 

You have no idea. It's all about "teh fat lootz" and grinding for XP, people got pissed at Mass Effect 2 because instead of having a million guns of slightly different stats and colours they switched to guns that were actually useful from beginning to end and were unique.

Ha.  Achievements is something else I never understood. Ah well, I sound like an old granny yelling at the kids for getting into her crocheting.

[Addai]

Kryyptehk wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

Is that really Flemeth? How do they know? Maybe it some other mage (hopefully not).

It's been confirmed by the devs. A wallpaper of her concept from GI was named Flemeth.

-in unspeakably happy- Maybe she'll be a romance option and allll my dreams with come true^_^

Look, you're really creeping me out.    LOL

[Master Shiori]

MoSa09 wrote...

I do wonder if Morrigan is the flipside of the same coin that is Flemeth. They say Flemeth is both the old hag as much as a young and beautiful seductress. Flemeth herself says she once was just as beautiful as Morrigan is now. And Mary Kirby said Flemeth just fooled us by pretending to be nothing more than an old hag.

I am starting to fear that indeed Flemeth and Morrigan are the same. Maybe Morrigan was indeed her daughter, and after she send her with us she got rid of her one night unnoticed and recplaced her. It is somewhat odd that if you accept Morrigans quest and return to the hut, Flemeth is always there, just if you show up with Morrigan, than suddenly she is not around.

I hope my fears proves wrong and they it doesn't end THAT bad for all of us, i am just getting a bad feeling about all of this.

You missed my point.

I wasn't trying to imply that Morrigan and Flemeth are one and the same, just that Flemeth tried to make Morrigan to be as similar to her as possible. Might be so she could possess her more easily.

In that case Morrigan falling in love with the Warden or becoming his/her friend would mess things up big time, since the Warden would force Morri to face feelings she previously avoided as weakness or didn't know existed. Such a thing could make Morrigan question what she's been taught and make her follow her own path.

And I don't think they'll go for "Morrigan is Flemeth" card. That would seriously destroy the appeal of her character without really delivering a good payback. Much better, imo, to make Morri develope into her own and make her a character who shares some beliefs with Flemeth (power and survival) but also disagrees with her over other things (love and friendship). You can see that this is what is happening in Origins if you befriend or romance Morri and I hope they continue in that direction in future DA titles.

Morrigan has a lot of potential as a character and Bioware shouldn't throw that away for the sake of a simple "gotcha" moment.

[nos_astra]

Kryyptehk wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

The meager benefits of the DA2 forum, our fist (blurry) look at non-Dragon "hot" Flemeth:



Seems she's got the cape action going on....I'm guessing that smoke billowing in the background is Lothering...

Is that really Flemeth? How do they know? Maybe it some other mage (hopefully not).

Cleaner picture available:
http://www.gamersplu...da202_35860.jpg

And yes, it's Flemeth.

[ximena]

klarabella wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

The meager benefits of the DA2 forum, our fist (blurry) look at non-Dragon "hot" Flemeth:


Seems she's got the cape action going on....I'm guessing that smoke billowing in the background is Lothering...

Is that really Flemeth? How do they know? Maybe it some other mage (hopefully not).

Cleaner picture available:
http://www.gamersplu...da202_35860.jpg

And yes, it's Flemeth.

Thanks for the link. The first thing that caught my eyes though was the jaggedness of the graphics. Haha. It's really nice to see that they're animating clothes now. Now I want to see that video they're releasing in August more and more. D:

Modifié par ximena, 21 juillet 2010 - 03:28 .

[Addai]

I have to say the two art influences they name, the late-medieval chaos type of painting and the Akira Kurosawa film, both zing me.  Those are right up my alley.  Damn it all if they make a game that is great in every way except for what matters most to me (being able to get in my PC's head and direct her action without the VO). 

Although, that is not a Kurosawa film we've seen yet.  Had to add it to the Netflix queue.

[Herr Uhl]

ximena wrote...

Thanks for the link. The first thing that caught my eyes though was the jaggedness of the graphics. Haha. It's really nice to see that they're animating clothes now. Now I want to see that video they're releasing in August more and more. D:

It seems to have a low resolution.

And man, they had shampoo that really brought out the shine in your hair.

Addai67 wrote...

I have to say the two art influences they name, the late-medieval chaos type of painting and the Akira Kurosawa film, both zing me.  Those are right up my alley.  Damn it all if they make a game that is great in every way except for what matters most to me (being able to get in my PC's head and direct her action without the VO).  

A stupid sexy Flanders game maybe?

I still hope that there will be an option to shut off the voice though.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 21 juillet 2010 - 03:51 .

[ximena]

Herr Uhl wrote...

ximena wrote...

Thanks for the link. The first thing that caught my eyes though was the jaggedness of the graphics. Haha. It's really nice to see that they're animating clothes now. Now I want to see that video they're releasing in August more and more. D:

It seems to have a low resolution.

And man, they had shampoo that really brought out the shine in your hair.
 

Made me suddenly wonder if the different art direction would also mean whiter teeth. Haha. *headdesks* (God I need more substantial information to sink my teeth into. I find myself citing trivilal things. XD)

[adneate]

ximena wrote...

Made me suddenly wonder if the different art direction would also mean whiter teeth. Haha. *headdesks* (God I need more substantial information to sink my teeth into. I find myself citing trivilal things. XD)

Glad to see I wasn't the only one bothered by the rotten brown teeth in Dragon Age, first mod I ever used made them white.

[GardenSnake]

Screen shot is pretty awesome. But what I want to know is who the hell did she possess? She obviously switched bodies for continuity purposes (dead or not) but damn, she's like a evil witch cougar dragon lady. O:

[Herr Uhl]

GardenSnake wrote...

Screen shot is pretty awesome. But what I want to know is who the hell did she possess? She obviously switched bodies for continuity purposes (dead or not) but damn, she's like a evil witch cougar dragon lady. O:

I think that would be the same body. But this time she wanted to look like an evil witch cougar lady rather than a nutty old bat.

[phaonica]

I was just thinking that there is a possibility that the darkspawn only show up at the beginning of the story, like there in Lothering and in the following 1 year. Perhaps after the Blight ends, you won't really see any more darkspawn in DA2. That would account for the Warden being missing... I guess unless the OGB and/or Morrigan showed up later.



I like Flemeth's warrior mage look. Except for the textures, those still don't look that great. They're so blurry.

[Herr Uhl]

phaonica wrote...

I was just thinking that there is a possibility that the darkspawn only show up at the beginning of the story, like there in Lothering and in the following 1 year. Perhaps after the Blight ends, you won't really see any more darkspawn in DA2. That would account for the Warden being missing... I guess unless the OGB and/or Morrigan showed up later.

I like Flemeth's warrior mage look. Except for the textures, those still don't look that great. They're so blurry.

You will be going down into the deep roads at one time or another, there will more than likely be darkspawn there too at least.

[phaonica]

Herr Uhl wrote...

phaonica wrote...

I was just thinking that there is a possibility that the darkspawn only show up at the beginning of the story, like there in Lothering and in the following 1 year. Perhaps after the Blight ends, you won't really see any more darkspawn in DA2. That would account for the Warden being missing... I guess unless the OGB and/or Morrigan showed up later.

I like Flemeth's warrior mage look. Except for the textures, those still don't look that great. They're so blurry.

You will be going down into the deep roads at one time or another, there will more than likely be darkspawn there too at least.

Do you go into the deep roads at some point? I missed that. This is just me grasping at straws.

[Herr Uhl]

phaonica wrote...

Do you go into the deep roads at some point? I missed that. This is just me grasping at straws.

1. There is a concept of it.
2. As one of the examples of what Hawke could be known for amongst people (stock things) was finding an ancient artifact in the deep roads.

[Addai]

GardenSnake wrote...

Screen shot is pretty awesome. But what I want to know is who the hell did she possess? She obviously switched bodies for continuity purposes (dead or not) but damn, she's like a evil witch cougar dragon lady. O:

She could simply have shapeshifted.  When you ask Morrigan about shifting into other human forms, she just says there's no value (to her) in it, but not that she can't do it.

[GardenSnake]

Herr Uhl wrote...

GardenSnake wrote...

Screen shot is pretty awesome. But what I want to know is who the hell did she possess? She obviously switched bodies for continuity purposes (dead or not) but damn, she's like a evil witch cougar dragon lady. O:

I think that would be the same body. But this time she wanted to look like an evil witch cougar lady rather than a nutty old bat.

Good point. I like how she's rocking the cape. WEll..... its technically not a cape, but still. She better still be voiced by Mulgrew. New body or not the voice is classic.

[bl00dsh0t]

Addai67 wrote...

GardenSnake wrote...

Screen shot is pretty awesome. But what I want to know is who the hell did she possess? She obviously switched bodies for continuity purposes (dead or not) but damn, she's like a evil witch cougar dragon lady. O:

She could simply have shapeshifted.  When you ask Morrigan about shifting into other human forms, she just says there's no value (to her) in it, but not that she can't do it.

Mm also some of the new lore on flemeth, that tale of the templar that tried to find and kill her can't recall the link atm but it is somewhere in this thread, did state that all who spoke to the templar were flemeth. So perhaps she really is the uber shifter

Still I approve of the image, a slight improvement at least on character detail with the cape and also the model itself looks a lot more refined than the models in DAO. Still the cape we will have to see actually move before we can make any judgements on the matter ;D

[GardenSnake]

Addai67 wrote...

GardenSnake wrote...

Screen shot is pretty awesome. But what I want to know is who the hell did she possess? She obviously switched bodies for continuity purposes (dead or not) but damn, she's like a evil witch cougar dragon lady. O:

She could simply have shapeshifted.  When you ask Morrigan about shifting into other human forms, she just says there's no value (to her) in it, but not that she can't do it.

But having possessed someone makes sense seeing as the fact that she'll be dead in some people's playthroughs. YOu could be right of course, if she survived in Origins this could be a shapeshift but if not, she possessed someone. Is it just me, or does she look kind of Chasind? I always pictured Chasind people looking sort of like that. Details like the fur shoulder pads always painted that image in my mind.

[Herr Uhl]

GardenSnake wrote...

But having possessed someone makes sense seeing as the fact that she'll be dead in some people's playthroughs. YOu could be right of course, if she survived in Origins this could be a shapeshift but if not, she possessed someone. Is it just me, or does she look kind of Chasind? I always pictured Chasind people looking sort of like that. Details like the fur shoulder pads always painted that image in my mind.

I think that meeting that is depicted is during the destruction of Lothering. And you have not yet had the opportunity to kill her by that time. In this case she wants to go in with a "shock and awe" tactic.

She is an old barbarian and is known to breed with Chasind to get daughters. It stands to reason that she would look the part.

[Addai]

GardenSnake wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

GardenSnake wrote...

Screen shot is pretty awesome. But what I want to know is who the hell did she possess? She obviously switched bodies for continuity purposes (dead or not) but damn, she's like a evil witch cougar dragon lady. O:

She could simply have shapeshifted.  When you ask Morrigan about shifting into other human forms, she just says there's no value (to her) in it, but not that she can't do it.

But having possessed someone makes sense seeing as the fact that she'll be dead in some people's playthroughs. YOu could be right of course, if she survived in Origins this could be a shapeshift but if not, she possessed someone. Is it just me, or does she look kind of Chasind? I always pictured Chasind people looking sort of like that. Details like the fur shoulder pads always painted that image in my mind.

Lothering will be destroyed once you complete an ally quest, and to get the Grimoire you would have gone through the Tower and finished Broken Circle at the very least.  As Greagoir reminds us "once the doors shut there's no coming back" without completing Broken Circle.  So the game pretty much locks out the idea of killing Flemeth before Lothering bites it. 

[GardenSnake]

Herr Uhl wrote...

GardenSnake wrote...

But having possessed someone makes sense seeing as the fact that she'll be dead in some people's playthroughs. YOu could be right of course, if she survived in Origins this could be a shapeshift but if not, she possessed someone. Is it just me, or does she look kind of Chasind? I always pictured Chasind people looking sort of like that. Details like the fur shoulder pads always painted that image in my mind.

I think that meeting that is depicted is during the destruction of Lothering. And you have not yet had the opportunity to kill her by that time. In this case she wants to go in with a "shock and awe" tactic.

She is an old barbarian and is known to breed with Chasind to get daughters. It stands to reason that she would look the part.

Whoops I forgot about that last detail.

[GardenSnake]

Addai67 wrote...

GardenSnake wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

GardenSnake wrote...

Screen shot is pretty awesome. But what I want to know is who the hell did she possess? She obviously switched bodies for continuity purposes (dead or not) but damn, she's like a evil witch cougar dragon lady. O:

She could simply have shapeshifted.  When you ask Morrigan about shifting into other human forms, she just says there's no value (to her) in it, but not that she can't do it.

But having possessed someone makes sense seeing as the fact that she'll be dead in some people's playthroughs. YOu could be right of course, if she survived in Origins this could be a shapeshift but if not, she possessed someone. Is it just me, or does she look kind of Chasind? I always pictured Chasind people looking sort of like that. Details like the fur shoulder pads always painted that image in my mind.

Lothering will be destroyed once you complete an ally quest, and to get the Grimoire you would have gone through the Tower and finished Broken Circle at the very least.  As Greagoir reminds us "once the doors shut there's no coming back" without completing Broken Circle.  So the game pretty much locks out the idea of killing Flemeth before Lothering bites it. 

Good point, but that means that she looks different for Hawke just because Bioware wants her to? Come on, that just sucks. But seeing as the fact that the game spans ten years, we could potentially see her as an old hag again. Having her as a potential party member does intruige me. Especially if she at one point mentions being killed by a tall dark and handsome Grey Warden  

Still not as good as actually playing as the Warden though......