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THE Morrigan Discussion and Research Thread *Infested with Bugs Yet Again!*


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A couple things that stick in my mind:

In the scripts, party camp part of the toolset in cam900ar_endgame you've got this: "All of these flags' original values are stored in "prcpt_postgame" for checking later" followed by all the variations of how the DR played out. We obviously know the DR is important and will be visited in some capacity later on since Morrigan is unkillable, but the "prc" part is post release content, aka an expansion pack or DLC. So it would seem we revisit the DR in some DLC or expack down the road.

Then you come back to this episode of GTTV at the 17:13 mark, where Muzyka says they have the unannounced stand alone project in the works (DA2 we now know) and then he says they have something else in the works beyond DA2 as well. So does he meana standalone epansion maybe, and DA2 is the something beyond thats? What I want to know is whether the 2/1/2011 thing is anything game related or if its just the dumb anime? And would they be working on DLC/expansion packs to DA2 already or do you think its possible BioWare will still be making DLC for Origins post DA2?

Modifié par Brockololly, 31 juillet 2010 - 06:13 .


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I doubt we will see anymore Warden DLC, after that Golem one.



I am not going near it, whats the point its just another dungeon crawl, with no real companions.

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Brockololly wrote...

A couple things that stick in my mind:

In the scripts, party camp part of the toolset in cam900ar_endgame you've got this: "All of these flags' original values are stored in "prcpt_postgame" for checking later" followed by all the variations of how the DR played out. We obviously know the DR is important and will be visited in some capacity later on since Morrigan is unkillable, but the "prc" part is post release content, aka an expansion pack or DLC. So it would seem we revisit the DR in some DLC or expack down the road.

Then you come back to this episode of GTTV at the 17:13 mark, where Muzyka says they have the unannounced stand alone project in the works (DA2 we now know) and then he says they have something else in the works beyond DA2 as well. So does he meana standalone epansion maybe, and DA2 is the something beyond thats? What I want to know is whether the 2/1/2011 thing is anything game related or if its just the dumb anime? And would they be working on DLC/expansion packs to DA2 already or do you think its possible BioWare will still be making DLC for Origins post DA2?


Well, we used the DR flags in Awakening to some extent and will use them in DA2.

Bioware said they'll be making DLC after DA2 comes out, so I'd think we'll be seeing more content for Origins until the end of 2011.

As for another expansion focused on Morrigan, I think it could be possible. Although it seems that the dev team has been focussed on DA2 pretty much since Awakening came out, so not sure if they had time for another expansion.
Still, Gaider said we might see Bioware pick up on the whole "Warden goes off in search of Morrigan" thing so something might be in the works. All this is pure speculation so far until we get some official announcement or at least further confirmation from the devs themselves.

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I dont understand something about AMPED UP.



Sten dosent need it, he is huge, two handed, stoic giant with a sense of humor. Who also loves eating cookies, and plays with a kitten.



That is why Sten is a BAMF he doesent have to go on about his bad assness he simply is. I like bioware Bad boys because they are tough, yet have depth to them like:

Canderous

Black Whirlwind

Wrex

Sten.



I fear that in DA2 we will get a company of bad arses who have no depth just to placate bros.



<Wanders off into the mists to continue contemplation>

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

I fear that in DA2 we will get a company of bad arses who have no depth just to placate bros.


Didn't you get the memo that in DA2 Hawke has to "gather the deadliest of allies"? Hmmm.. now where have I heard that marketing phrase before....<_<

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Good point, Brock.



As much as I love Dragon Age, it is just going to be a Mass Effect Fantasy rip off. Gaider can talk as much as he wants but come on! how many elemets of ME wandered in?



Also go watch the Shogun 2 trailer its mind blowing.

#6482
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Brockololly wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I fear that in DA2 we will get a company of bad arses who have no depth just to placate bros.


Didn't you get the memo that in DA2 Hawke has to "gather the deadliest of allies"? Hmmm.. now where have I heard that marketing phrase before....<_<


...Uh oh....didn't notice that one before.

But, the writers are still the same, so I doubt they are going to make DA2 companions be that much worse than Origins'.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Also go watch the Shogun 2 trailer its mind blowing.


The water is so amazing looking, as are the night battles....ahhhh...at least thats one PC game thats playing to the strengths of the platform and not being lobotomized for the consoles...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

...Uh oh....didn't notice that one before.

But, the writers are still the same, so I doubt they are going to make DA2 companions be that much worse than Origins'.

I'd like to think its just more ho-hum marketing, but I'm worried this time around that the EXTREME! Marilyn Manson style marketing is leaking into the core game for DA2. Basically BioWare is making DA2 to cater to the Bros who watched the Sacred Ashes trailer and complained when DAO wasn't as EXTREME as that.

But the writers are the same, so hopefully they don't come down with the Bro Plague. ALthough, I think a large chunk of how the writing goes is the dialogue system too- is it more like Awakening or Origins? Its something that no one has really mentioned, seeing as how everyone has been fixated on the dialogue wheel and spoken PC. Even though Awakening had the same writers, I didn't care nearly that much for most of the Awakening companions due to the crummy implementation of the dialogue...

Modifié par Brockololly, 31 juillet 2010 - 09:54 .


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Thats one thing ME2 screwed up on.



All the NPCs were bland and predictable, with no depth and you only got to know them if you romanced them.<--NO



I am going to be wary of DA2 till I play it, I dont trust Bioware after ME2.

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Of course, we still need to know more about the dialogue system and how we are going to interact with companions. No matter how interesting a character is, you can't form attachement to them with a poor dialogue system. So hopefully they take Origins as an example here and not Awakening.

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BROS dont need convo systems, only a line for getting tent time Phoenix.

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Yo, I jusT wAntZ the ACheevemint 4 haVin sexx wid dat freeky witch, Bro. F*** talkin man, I want 2 fighT like a Spartan! 300! WOOHOO!

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

BROS dont need convo systems, only a line for getting tent time Phoenix.


I wonder if "tent time lines" are always going to be symbolised by a red fist, symbolising the badassery and win juice of such an event.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 31 juillet 2010 - 10:16 .


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Brock has acheived full bro metamorphasis.



Weep for him.

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Bioware's new Convo system:

Romance:

Diplomatic: GET IN MAH TENT WOMAN!

Sarcastic: GET IN MAH TENT WOMAN!

Aggresive: GET IN mAH SODDING TENT WOMAN!

#6491
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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Bioware's new Convo system:
Romance:
Diplomatic: GET IN MAH TENT WOMAN!
Sarcastic: GET IN MAH TENT WOMAN!
Aggresive: GET IN mAH SODDING TENT WOMAN!


IGN review of said dialogue system: 2 much talkin! Ugh... I had to reed and no pritty picsures? I go watch Nascar and eat mountain dew and cheetos now.
Dragon Age 2 score: 3/10

BioWare reaction: Oh no! IGN gave DA2 a bad score! We have to make it review proof next time! Get to work!

DA3 dialogue for romance: *press one button, movie plays instant sex and violence*

IGN review: YAY! I like dis game it fun and EZ for mah bray-nuh.
Dragon AGe 3 score: 10/10

Back at BioWare... "great success, lets copy that for all future games!"

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And some Morrigan to stay on topic, courtesy of Ximena:
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#6492
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One thing that Bioware should ignore is a review site that gives GTA 4 or others of that ilk a near perfect score.

Although RDR was fun, once you play those games there is no real replay ability.



One thing that really took away from Miranda in ME2 was her outfit, coupled with porno body panning shots, that was just ridiculus.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

One thing that really took away from Miranda in ME2 was her outfit, coupled with porno body panning shots, that was just ridiculus.



Oh god....yeah the "cinematic flair" of a horny 13 year old. Jesus tapdancing Christ, hey guys we're a Mature rated game, right? So lets stick this camera angle right on Miranda's butt ! HUR DUR...we're so mature...hurdur hur durB)

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One thing that is nice about the Dragon Age camera man was that he focused on people's faces, not their behinds. While I can appreciate a womans padding, I dont need it shoved in my face during a convo.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

One thing that Bioware should ignore is a review site that gives GTA 4 or others of that ilk a near perfect score.
Although RDR was fun, once you play those games there is no real replay ability.

One thing that really took away from Miranda in ME2 was her outfit, coupled with porno body panning shots, that was just ridiculus.


ya my gf was playing ME2 in the living room and all the sudden the camera just zooms in on Miranda's ass for no reason at all. was real akward considering my neice and nephew who are (11 and 7) were watching her play.

cutscene..
10 seconds of mirandas ass..
miranda: sup sheperd

#6496
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Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

One thing that Bioware should ignore is a review site that gives GTA 4 or others of that ilk a near perfect score.
Although RDR was fun, once you play those games there is no real replay ability.

One thing that really took away from Miranda in ME2 was her outfit, coupled with porno body panning shots, that was just ridiculus.


ya my gf was playing ME2 in the living room and all the sudden the camera just zooms in on Miranda's ass for no reason at all. was real akward considering my neice and nephew who are (11 and 7) were watching her play.

cutscene..
10 seconds of mirandas ass..
miranda: sup sheperd



LOL!  So that's  what those "I support Miranda's ass" sigs were all about eh?  :lol:

#6497
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Axekix wrote...
LOL!  So that's  what those "I support Miranda's ass" sigs were all about eh?  :lol:


Yeah, sad thing is the whole "camera focusing on Miranda's butt" has been brought up to Casey Hudson in interviews and he plays it off as if its some fine cinematic choice...then again he sees nothing wrong with the planet scanning either, so there you go.

Aaaand here is some Morrigan:

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#6498
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I was sure that Morrigan's supposed role at the end to save the wardens then her disappearance off the face of Ferrelden would definitely come up in Awakening. To me it would be a logical carry over from Dragon Age Origins. I can imagine Morrigan pregnant and producing an abomination that all had to deal with in the new EP. That is how I thought it would go. If I was writing a trilogy it would be, but it wasn't to be. Perhaps too predictable? ;) 
I wonder if something like that will come up in Dragon Age II? We will see.

regards, Jen:huh:

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You know what I would think would be interesting? For all us players who romanced Morrigan.



Is that in Dragon Age 2 Hawke encounters her and can romance her. So in a way causing her to 'lose' love for your Warden and lay with another.



So in a way, if she was set to love at the end, you could get her to cheat with on your character with your other character. I just think it'd be interesting. And also fall into line if Morrigan is the type to not lay with another for her love..



Which I don't really seem to see anyways.

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RyuAzai wrote...

So in a way, if she was set to love at the end, you could get her to cheat with on your character with your other character. I just think it'd be interesting.

Interesting?  I'm thinking more along the lines of awkward and pointless.