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[Master Shiori]

SurelyForth wrote...

So, ahem, I am currently romancing Morrigan with my Mahariel. It's the first time I've seriously romanced her (as in put in thought into the relationship and why he would like her and why she would like him). Anyway, it's been amazing so far, especially since it's been a while since she's traveled with any of my PCs. I'd forgotten how much color she adds.

Also? She is awesome:

Morrigan has the best lines when dealing with that templar (Sten is awesome too).

Be sure to get Morrigan Restoration Patch is you're on PC. It restores a lot of cut content that involves Morrigan.

[Herr Uhl]

Master Shiori wrote...

Morrigan has the best lines when dealing with that templar (Sten is awesome too).

The Sten exchange makes me wonder how often Sten wanders off on his own during your travels.

[Kryyptehk]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Morrigan has the best lines when dealing with that templar (Sten is awesome too).

The Sten exchange makes me wonder how often Sten wanders off on his own during your travels.

I imagine that the only time the Warden sees him is at night when he comes back to camp. Covered in blood. With a bag full of cookies.

Modifié par Kryyptehk, 03 août 2010 - 06:33 .

[Brockololly]

MoSa09 wrote...
Oh boy,  a funeral is a happy place compared to the dark mood in these forum lately . But this theory got me thinking. First of all, i believe you're right. But they already said there will be future dlc for Origins and hinted they would even release more after DA 2 is released. Lets assume Morri and her story is part of DA 2 (in what kind of way is unimportant at the moment). Maybe they don't give us more info because they don't wanna spoil DA 2. Maybe thats also why they did not get closure yet. But after the events of DA 2, where Flemeth is dealt with (i believe that will happen in one way or the other) and maybe each player has had to deal with Morri just again, they can release the Morri closuse dlc for Origins? So everyone (love, haters and those indifferent alike) got a an incentive to buy and deal with her in a way they see fit. I believe this could be posssible...

I have no clue how they'll handle things with the Warden and Morrigan going forward. The DLC and expacks thus far have done next to nothing to add to the Warden's story in any big, meaningful way. Maybe that will change, but it sucks to think that our hope for a Warden/Morrigan reunion for the near future lies in DLC...or several years down the road with DA3, but thats probably a pipe dream...

I really would love to see some DLC that actually moves the Warden's story forward and makes it feel connected to the Warden's past and hints at the Warden's future- not all of this "Go smack this monster!" stand alone DLC.

MoSa09 wrote...
As long as you just play the campaign, its over in a few hours (did it in short to 7 hours). And you're not turning into a bro. Now if you start playing online and for hours and hours.... thats a different story

Yeah, just the campaign.... played it for a couple hours and remembered why I was so disappointed with it. Hans Zimmer's music in it was good though!

MoSa09 wrote...
And talking about the general changes of faces in DA 2, the one thing i would love to see is Morris hair. But not in a bun, but just wild and free:whistle: Always confused me that someone living in the wild all her life, scouting the wilds as an animal tied her hair into a bun like a school head mistress :innocent:

Oh come on man, what wrong with hot school mistresses that look like Morrigan and sound like Claudia Black? One thing I'd like to see in DA2 are more unique outfits for the companions, so in addition to the customizable armor in Origins maybe everyone gets 2 unique outfits too- like maybe Morrigan would get her normal robes and then like the Sacred Ashes robes or something.

As for Morrigan letting her hair down- I'd be fine with that only so long as the longer hair doesn't look so stuff and plastic like it does in so many games, Origins included. Long hair is always distracting to me in games when its just glued to the person's head. So yeah, unless they can make the hair look nice and natural, I'll be happy with Morrigan's school mistress bun making a return...

bl00dsh0t wrote...
soo I have come to the conclusion that I must grab myself one of these two games: The Witcher enhanced edition or FEAR2.... I like shooting stuff, which I guess classifies me as a bro, but well Im on the fence on these two. Accordingto metacritic the witcher is vastly superior but is the combat system worth my time?

Well, FEAR2 was quite mediocre, I thought. The Witcher is the kind of RPG that you may love or hate. The combat isn't great and the game starts slow, but if you stick with it, the later portions of the game are very cool and your choices really matter.

But I'd definitely get Dead Space- one of my favorite games of the past couple years. Play that with headphones on or surround sound up in a dark room at night....good stuff!
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And back to Morrigan, out of curiosity, what mod is it that has Morrigan's Sacred Ashes Robes? I could look on DA nexus, but I'm too lazy right now....:happy:

Modifié par Brockololly, 03 août 2010 - 09:31 .

[Jarlof Seoul]

Master Shiori wrote...

I'd like to know this as well.

Of my 2 characters that romanced Morrigan, 1 didn't talk to her at the gates and still has her aproval shown as "love", while the other did talk to her and was reduced down to friendship.

Guess I'll have to import them both into Awakening and just see how that turns out in epilogue...

It's good to know one is not alone in missing the Morrigan reference epilogue in Awakenings. I'm replaying end of DAO and Awakening to have both save games for a future DA sequel, expansion or DLC for a MorrigaWarden happy ending. That's all I want in future DA: the rest will be nice but in the long run won't be faithful to future installements if I'm left hanging. I WILL FIND YOU MORRIGAN!

Modifié par Jarlof Seoul, 03 août 2010 - 11:31 .

[GardenSnake]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I play it too so dont worry Brock.
Sometimes it just fun to kick back relax and go frag happy. While in others DA is their for some depth.

Also this is just plain funny to most:


"Have a lead sandwhich! Hold the life... and the mayo"

Oh man! I love RvB!!!! As cool as Sarge is, he's nothing compared to this pile of badass that is Church. Yes, I just called him a pile of badass. He's that awesome.

About MW2, I liked the story more than I liked the multiplayer. For shooters in terms of multiplayer there can be no substitute, Halo's still king if you ask me. The stories in the games are epic and fun and the lore behind it all is almost as rich as DA's.

About DA though, wouldn't it be awesome if at the end of the new DLC they give us this ending heavily hinting at what's to come next in terms of the search for Morri? A power point slide would do the trick  Something like 'the Warden then traveled to Orlais to search for the black haired mage and her child, an adventure that will soon be told'.

Now THAT would get the hype machine turning, don't you think? I've decided that I'm not going to get DA2. Now whether I rent it or not is up to what I find out until release date. I still love Bioware and like Isholde I still believe that the Bioware of old is trapped inside this new seemingly evil thing that is EA. Man I hate Isholde though.........

[Giggles_Manically]

I am already panning the game. Yahteze and Razorfist are going to tear it apart, and both of them are huge Bioware fans.



At this point in time I see Bioware heading straight into the iceberg of Bro full speed. Bros will buy games, but wont ever replay them and Bioware will find this out. I play good games because they are great, from Bioware its their stories, worlds, charachters,and plots that bring me back not: BEWBS AND BOMBS!!!



Until I see otherwise I am not buying DA2, Awakening and ME2 dissapointed me enough.

[Kryyptehk]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I am already panning the game. Yahteze and Razorfist are going to tear it apart, and both of them are huge Bioware fans.

At this point in time I see Bioware heading straight into the iceberg of Bro full speed. Bros will buy games, but wont ever replay them and Bioware will find this out. I play good games because they are great, from Bioware its their stories, worlds, charachters,and plots that bring me back not: BEWBS AND BOMBS!!!

Until I see otherwise I am not buying DA2, Awakening and ME2 dissapointed me enough.

Hey, neither bewbs, nor bombs are bad things. But like great power, great bewbs/bombs come with great responsibility.

[Brockololly]

GardenSnake wrote...

About DA though, wouldn't it be awesome if at the end of the new DLC they give us this ending heavily hinting at what's to come next in terms of the search for Morri? A power point slide would do the trick  Something like 'the Warden then traveled to Orlais to search for the black haired mage and her child, an adventure that will soon be told'.

Now THAT would get the hype machine turning, don't you think? I've decided that I'm not going to get DA2. Now whether I rent it or not is up to what I find out until release date. I still love Bioware and like Isholde I still believe that the Bioware of old is trapped inside this new seemingly evil thing that is EA. Man I hate Isholde though.........

Yeah, my problem with the DLCs thus far is that they're all stand alone affairs. If the DLC's were little chunks of episodic content that linked together, that could be amazing. Or at least hint at what the next DLC could be...SO here is my totally unrealistic hope for the Golems of Amgarrak DLC- maybe, at the end, you come out on the other side of the Deep Roads, in the Frostback Mountains only to pick up the trail of Morrigan! I can dream, can't I ?

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I am already panning the game. Yahteze and Razorfist are going to tear it apart, and both of them are huge Bioware fans.

At this point in time I see Bioware heading straight into the iceberg of  Bro full speed. Bros will buy games, but wont ever replay them and  Bioware will find this out. I play good games because they are great,  from Bioware its their stories, worlds, charachters,and plots that bring me back not: BEWBS AND BOMBS!!!

Until I see otherwise I am not buying DA2, Awakening and ME2 dissapointed me enough.

I can't say quite yet that I absolutley won't buy DA2. I definitely need to see the PC version though 1st- if they muck that up, I'll be really quite upset to say the least.

Its funny though- I think BioWare is really setting themselves up for failure with DA2 potentially. At least in the marketing, you'd have to be a moron to not see how the marketing of DA2 as being a "cinematic" experience with an emphasis on improved combat is eerily similar to ME2. Thats the problem though- many people liked Origins precisely because it was nothing like ME2. It had an identity of its own. Now, whether BioWare realizes it or not, given the changes to DA2 and how they're being marketed, ME2 is going to be DA2's biggest enemy. Its inevitable that crictics will compare the 2 games and if DA2 falters even a bit, reviewers will be soooo quick to throw out all the Dragon Effect 2 or Mass Effect with Swords one liners they can think of.

Kryyptehk wrote..

Hey, neither bewbs, nor bombs are bad things. But like great power, great bewbs/bombs come with great responsibility.

Indeed- unless of course the great bewbs are actually bombs in disguise! That would be bad for all involved







Of note today, EA had their quarterly earnings report and DA2 is still scheduled for a Q4 FY 2011 release. But Crysis 2 was delayed to that same window.....I don't get it- it seems there are now a boat load of games coming out early next year, as opposed to the Fall. Crysis 2, Dead Space 2, The Witcher 2, DA2.....ugh.

Modifié par Brockololly, 04 août 2010 - 03:27 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Brockololly wrote...
Oh come on man, what wrong with hot school mistresses that look like Morrigan and sound like Claudia Black?

A major reason why I love her

@ SurelyForth.
Glad you are enjoying the Morriromance  (Soon tragedy will devour the world)

[phaonica]

Brockololly wrote...

Yeah, my problem with the DLCs thus far is that they're all stand alone affairs. If the DLC's were little chunks of episodic content that linked together, that could be amazing. Or at least hint at what the next DLC could be...SO here is my totally unrealistic hope for the Golems of Amgarrak DLC- maybe, at the end, you come out on the other side of the Deep Roads, in the Frostback Mountains only to pick up the trail of Morrigan! I can dream, can't I ?

Weren't we told by someone that Leliana's Song had some characters or something that would appear in future DA content? I had really hoped that Leliana's Song would further the story between Orlais and Ferelden somehow, but if there was any hint of any of those characters returning within the download itself, I missed it.

[Master Shiori]

phaonica wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Yeah, my problem with the DLCs thus far is that they're all stand alone affairs. If the DLC's were little chunks of episodic content that linked together, that could be amazing. Or at least hint at what the next DLC could be...SO here is my totally unrealistic hope for the Golems of Amgarrak DLC- maybe, at the end, you come out on the other side of the Deep Roads, in the Frostback Mountains only to pick up the trail of Morrigan! I can dream, can't I ?

Weren't we told by someone that Leliana's Song had some characters or something that would appear in future DA content? I had really hoped that Leliana's Song would further the story between Orlais and Ferelden somehow, but if there was any hint of any of those characters returning within the download itself, I missed it.

There were no hints.

They just said that some of the characters from Leliana's Song would appear in future DA titles.

They never hinted who or when.

[Brockololly]

phaonica wrote...

Weren't we told by someone that Leliana's Song had some characters or something that would appear in future DA content? I had really hoped that Leliana's Song would further the story between Orlais and Ferelden somehow, but if there was any hint of any of those characters returning within the download itself, I missed it.

Yeah, they said that some characters might show up later. I wish they'd be abit more obvious with hints like that if thats their intent, as it was lost on me while playing Leliana's Song...maybe Sketch will come back?


So its about 13 days until the "debut trailer" for DA2- thoughts? Will it be gameplay or a CGI/Blur trailer? Do you think it'll be a "Shepard is dead!" style tease that ends up pissing people off? I'm guessing Flemeth will fit into it somehow...if they want to go for the big surprise aspect, I could see them tossing in Claudia Black's voice or maybe revealing Morrigan, as she is the big question mark out of Origins. Who knows....

[MoSa09]

Brockololly wrote...

Oh come on man, what wrong with hot school mistresses that look like Morrigan and sound like Claudia Black? One thing I'd like to see in DA2 are more unique outfits for the companions, so in addition to the customizable armor in Origins maybe everyone gets 2 unique outfits too- like maybe Morrigan would get her normal robes and then like the Sacred Ashes robes or something.

As for Morrigan letting her hair down- I'd be fine with that only so long as the longer hair doesn't look so stuff and plastic like it does in so many games, Origins included. Long hair is always distracting to me in games when its just glued to the person's head. So yeah, unless they can make the hair look nice and natural, I'll be happy with Morrigan's school mistress bun making a return...

I never said something is wrong with her looking like a school mistress from time to time. I just said i would love to her her hair down once in a while. Maybe just at camp, adding to the relaxing feeling. Surely she wouldn't wear that bun in bed... On the other hand, she also changes her skimpy bra she constantly wears into some granny pants before making out, so who knows...

[Master Shiori]

Brockololly wrote...

phaonica wrote...

Weren't we told by someone that Leliana's Song had some characters or something that would appear in future DA content? I had really hoped that Leliana's Song would further the story between Orlais and Ferelden somehow, but if there was any hint of any of those characters returning within the download itself, I missed it.

Yeah, they said that some characters might show up later. I wish they'd be abit more obvious with hints like that if thats their intent, as it was lost on me while playing Leliana's Song...maybe Sketch will come back?


So its about 13 days until the "debut trailer" for DA2- thoughts? Will it be gameplay or a CGI/Blur trailer? Do you think it'll be a "Shepard is dead!" style tease that ends up pissing people off? I'm guessing Flemeth will fit into it somehow...if they want to go for the big surprise aspect, I could see them tossing in Claudia Black's voice or maybe revealing Morrigan, as she is the big question mark out of Origins. Who knows....

My money's on a CGI trailer ala Sacred Ashes.
I don't think it'll be "Shepard is dead" type of trailer either since, let's face it, we know the Warden is alive and kicking at the start of DA2. I do hope to hear some Morrigan related news as they reveal more info about DA2.

Though, to be honest, I don't really care about DA2 trailer at this point. I'm counting the days until my vacation ends so I can get back home and pick up Starcraft2: Wings of Liberty.

I'm also looking forward to the new ME2 and DA:O DLC.

[Giggles_Manically]

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[MKDAWUSS]

Brockololly wrote...

GardenSnake wrote...

About DA though, wouldn't it be awesome if at the end of the new DLC they give us this ending heavily hinting at what's to come next in terms of the search for Morri? A power point slide would do the trick  Something like 'the Warden then traveled to Orlais to search for the black haired mage and her child, an adventure that will soon be told'.

Now THAT would get the hype machine turning, don't you think? I've decided that I'm not going to get DA2. Now whether I rent it or not is up to what I find out until release date. I still love Bioware and like Isholde I still believe that the Bioware of old is trapped inside this new seemingly evil thing that is EA. Man I hate Isholde though.........

Yeah, my problem with the DLCs thus far is that they're all stand alone affairs. If the DLC's were little chunks of episodic content that linked together, that could be amazing. Or at least hint at what the next DLC could be...SO here is my totally unrealistic hope for the Golems of Amgarrak DLC- maybe, at the end, you come out on the other side of the Deep Roads, in the Frostback Mountains only to pick up the trail of Morrigan! I can dream, can't I ?

I think they're going to be standalones so they don't crap on anyone's canon.

[phaonica]

I'm betting it will either be a cinematic trailer, or that it will be clips from footage that was already seen in their playable demo. Not really optimistic.

I think they're going to be standalones so they don't crap on anyone's canon.

Ugh, you're probably right. I really hate to see them take this all or nothing approach. Just because I didn't make a particular choice doesn't mean I'd be completely opposed to seeing how it might have played out.

[GardenSnake]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

GardenSnake wrote...

About DA though, wouldn't it be awesome if at the end of the new DLC they give us this ending heavily hinting at what's to come next in terms of the search for Morri? A power point slide would do the trick  Something like 'the Warden then traveled to Orlais to search for the black haired mage and her child, an adventure that will soon be told'.

Now THAT would get the hype machine turning, don't you think? I've decided that I'm not going to get DA2. Now whether I rent it or not is up to what I find out until release date. I still love Bioware and like Isholde I still believe that the Bioware of old is trapped inside this new seemingly evil thing that is EA. Man I hate Isholde though.........

Yeah, my problem with the DLCs thus far is that they're all stand alone affairs. If the DLC's were little chunks of episodic content that linked together, that could be amazing. Or at least hint at what the next DLC could be...SO here is my totally unrealistic hope for the Golems of Amgarrak DLC- maybe, at the end, you come out on the other side of the Deep Roads, in the Frostback Mountains only to pick up the trail of Morrigan! I can dream, can't I ?

I think they're going to be standalones so they don't crap on anyone's canon.

Brock and I can still dream though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your most likely right, but they COULD potentialy throw a curve ball in at the end right? You're importing from Awakening (Am I wrong? Orlesian Warden's can jump in on the dungeon crawling too, so I'm assuming all Warden's get imported from Awakening.) So depending on the ending you got there, maybe it could affect the ending in GoA (Golems of Amgarrack)? Again, I highly doubt that, but I'll keep hoping until those hopes are brutally murdered by whatever the ending might be (unless of course the Warden dies, then I'll just throw my controller at the tv.....) Well even if the endings are affected in anyway by the Awakening slides, my Warden could just emerge from the Deep Roads to find Leli just standing there going, "Maker's breath that took awhile!! Well, back to random adventuring!"

Modifié par GardenSnake, 05 août 2010 - 02:08 .

[Brockololly]

Reading through the DA2 forums really makes me sad. As if this thread wasn't a downer already, here goes! Incoming mini rant!

FIrst you've got this thread:


Less voice acting, more player options and game content- you've got your typical back and forth over voiced PC and what not but its just a damn shame reading from some of the long time posters like LadyShayna and really reflects how far DA2 is seemingly straying from the games like BG that made BioWare what it is today. *sigh*

Then you have this comment by Gaider today:

David Gaider wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...
Devs make changes all the time, and they're largely for the better, and we  the fanbase largely indulge in some wankage before most of us get over  it and just enjoy the game.

True, though not everyone who was a fan of DAO is going to enjoy DA2. I think that's a given-- we're  making a lot of changes, and they're not going to be to everyone's  liking. That's true between any sequel-- you're going to win some new  fans and lose some old ones, and that's probably doubly true when you  make changes to the "formula". Everyone's free to declare what they do  or don't like and what they'd prefer to see (like we could stop them),  but treating it like it's a broken promise is, I think, taking that a  bit too far.

Its not just that quote from Gaider, as he makes a fair point to an extent. But at what point is the game not a sequel but just an entirely different thing, divorced from what you did in the original? Thats part of my problem with DA2 right now is that they're plopping that "2" on the end to reel in some fans of Origins only to have them shocked when they realize not only is the story totally disconnected, but the gameplay and presentation is too. Tossing a "2" on the title, is a promise of sorts though Gaider, it implies different things to different people (story, gameplay, presentation continuity) but it does set a certain expectation for those who played the original game.

I'm really thinking of just not buying DA2, Morrigan or not, just to do my part to not support the direction BioWare is taking with their franchises. Instead of building off of the foundation laid in Origins, they're seemingly starting over for a more mainstream, accessible reboot of DA that all the console Bros can buy up, while effectively giving the middle finger to long time fans since the days of BG. You see it in the interviews and in some of the dev posts- the whole "like it or leave it" mentality. That "Hey, its BioWare's game, we're making these changes because we want to- deal with it or GTFO" attitude is sad to see, as its like BioWare isn't even trying to market or convince fans of Origins that liked the silent PC or the PC centric gameplay to try and like DA2. They're taking their core fanbase for granted, and if they want to trade in the loyal RPG fans for ADHD  addled, beer chugging Bros, by all means BioWare, go right ahead- see how that works out for you.  I mean, everything I've read and seen thus far is like BioWare is trying their very best to make me not like this game and they have the audacity to call it a "sequel"!? Blargh......


Thirdly, you've got this thread: Morrigan's God Baby Dilemma. Its one of those Grey Warden.com articles about the OGB choice and all that. But just reading through the thread makes me ill. I do the DR almost every time I'm making a serious playthrough. I did the US once to see what it was like. But here's my problem: whenever somebody mentions how they want to see the OGB story and Morrigan and the Warden's story continued, you've got your chorus of dolts swoop in screaming " I DID THE US, THE DR ISN'T CANON- MEH!" Well, you know what? The US isn't canon either.

And thats my big problem with the DR and OGB and BioWare's choices in general. By not picking a canon, BioWare more than likely has to tread the mushy middle regarding the DR. Problem is, the US is an ending, while the DR is the beginning to a new story with the OGB. It just bothers me because inevitably, the OGB will never be a major plot point due to the whole no canon issue,  and that is horribly stupid given the supposed enormity of the choice as presented in Origins. Now BioWare could make a huge plot with the OGB for those that did the DR, but would they? And how would BioWare reconcile the OGB Morrigan and the OGB-less Morrigan?

Thats the issue- unless you're willing to create a massive amount of content that may go totally unseen, you've basically written yourselves into a corner where you're forced to write a stock cookie cutter version of Morrigan that works with or without the OGB. And I'm sorry but that would be bull**** on the same level as Ash/Kaiden on Horizon saying the EXACT same thing despite being 2 different characters. So you end up with a bland one size fits all Morrigan or you just write off the OGB, which why did it matter in the first place then if we never see the consequences from that action?

Gaider has said that the DR was the biggest choice from Origins- I just really hope they actually treat it as such going forward (with the Warden!) and not some stupid little sidequest for Hawke to cross off on his checklist to becoming the Most Important Person EVAR.

Modifié par Brockololly, 05 août 2010 - 05:24 .

[Brockololly]

jln.francisco wrote...

My advice to you, mate, is take pleasures where you can and move on when they're finished. (paraphrasing Zevran of course.) .

Thats the big problem with the Morrigan romance- did it end? Is the Warden's story really over? What about the OGB? If BioWare would just say one way or the other I'd happily move on....problem is the rubbish ending for Awakening, takes any closure you may have settled for and chucks it out the window.....<_<

[adneate]

Hey Brock!





Good stuff gets ruined to appeal to morons, morons don't buy it and then some suit kills it. The circle of crap lives on.

[Addai]

adneate wrote...

Good stuff gets ruined to appeal to morons, morons don't buy it and then some suit kills it. The circle of crap lives on.

LOL  You really should write a self-help book, and call it The Most Cynical Self-Help Book on the Planet.  It might actually improve lives. 

But of course you are spot on.

[phaonica]

Addai67 wrote...

adneate wrote...

Good stuff gets ruined to appeal to morons, morons don't buy it and then some suit kills it. The circle of crap lives on.

LOL  You really should write a self-help book, and call it The Most Cynical Self-Help Book on the Planet.  It might actually improve lives. 

But of course you are spot on.

You Are Worthless: Depressing Nuggets of Wisdom Sure to Ruin Your Day

I had thought to myself that it might be nice to rejoin the crowd of those who don't play Origins and really didn't think it was that great. They seem to get more attention and save a lot of money by not buying the DLCs.