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MoSa09

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On the whole "Morrigan army issue". If you take a look at Hawke in the trailer, he is not exactly wearing real armor. His clothes are rags, the armor just covering one arm. There is fur attached to his coat on the back.



What i wanted to say is that i got the impression what he is wearing could be something like the improved male edition of the Sacres Ashes robe. So maybe thats just the kind of cloth the followers of Flemeth wear, and all thos girls in the background are no Morrigan clones or sisters but simply some mages who are followers as well and therefore happen to wear the same cloth (female edition).



I just still have a hard time picturing a Morrigan army or Morrigan's sister army, that would just be... stupid and lame, don't you think?

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MoSa09 wrote...

On the whole "Morrigan army issue". If you take a look at Hawke in the trailer, he is not exactly wearing real armor. His clothes are rags, the armor just covering one arm. There is fur attached to his coat on the back.

What i wanted to say is that i got the impression what he is wearing could be something like the improved male edition of the Sacres Ashes robe. So maybe thats just the kind of cloth the followers of Flemeth wear, and all thos girls in the background are no Morrigan clones or sisters but simply some mages who are followers as well and therefore happen to wear the same cloth (female edition).

I just still have a hard time picturing a Morrigan army or Morrigan's sister army, that would just be... stupid and lame, don't you think?


It would make the HK-50 ripoffs in KOTOR look like pure genius.

And it would provide another dynamic to the whole potential Chantry Schism. If Morrigan's any indication, Flemeth isn't exactly pro-Chantry.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Soooooo......

After watching the trailer, and reading the interview a lot of my concerns melted off very quickly.
Hearing that PC is only getting tweaked is good, and the trailer at least wasent Manson.

What interview?

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Trailer didn't fo much for me, if anything I hate Hawke more now. Stupid Hawke and the rubbing the blood on his face and the magic and the sword swinging and the walking.... Ya, I'm bitter. The whole 'Morrigan' army shot lags in the version that I see so I can barely see it. But I doubt it's a Morrigan clone army, maybe her sisters? That's why Morrigan didn't want to talk about her potential sisters when Zev asked. "Oh ya, my mom's raising an army with them.... it's a touchy subject." LOL.



Or maybe just apostates?

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In all likelyhood, the "Morrigan Army" is probably just a result of lazy production. Otherwise, it is just plain dumb writing to have "clones" of Morrigan, especially since the idea of an army of clones is stolen from the pages of Star Wars.

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Aphetto_LC wrote...

In all likelyhood, the "Morrigan Army" is probably just a result of lazy production. Otherwise, it is just plain dumb writing to have "clones" of Morrigan, especially since the idea of an army of clones is stolen from the pages of Star Wars.

Rule number one Aphetto, you wanna make something great: either get inspired by or just plain rip off star wars, it's guaranteed to succeed.

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I'm on the Morrigan clone army train!



The similarities are just too great, and I don't buy into the idea of a professional, big-budget, CGI short reusing Morrigan's model as a placeholder. It seems very deliberate to me.



Personally, I'm intrigued.

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Aphetto_LC wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Soooooo......

After watching the trailer, and reading the interview a lot of my concerns melted off very quickly.
Hearing that PC is only getting tweaked is good, and the trailer at least wasent Manson.

What interview?


Sorry not an interview:
IGN preview:  http://pc.ign.com/ar...1113408p1.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://pc.ign.com/articles/111/1113408p1.html

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Hey its Morri Fett, the unaltered clone of Jango Flemeth!:blink:

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As far as the Morrigan Clone Army idea- I don't know. I'm not too keen on it as it seems stupid, quite frankly. Could Blur have been lazy and just used Morrigan as a placeholder for a split second shot? Hmmmm.... I don't know. I doubt they'd just use Morrigan of all people as a placeholder- they surely copied some of the Morriclones within the little army, but to just use Morrigan arbitrarily like that? I don't know....

Its piqued my interest in the story side of DA2 at least. Now hopefully the PC gameplay shapes up ok. And who knows, maybe we'll get some news about any possible September Morrigan DLC soon? You figure that Xbox usually announces new DLC for the coming month in the first week of the month, so if anything is coming in September, it'll be announced in the next couple weeks I think...

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Brockololly wrote...

Hey its Morri Fett, the unaltered clone of Jango Flemeth!:blink:

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As far as the Morrigan Clone Army idea- I don't know. I'm not too keen on it as it seems stupid, quite frankly. Could Blur have been lazy and just used Morrigan as a placeholder for a split second shot? Hmmmm.... I don't know. I doubt they'd just use Morrigan of all people as a placeholder- they surely copied some of the Morriclones within the little army, but to just use Morrigan arbitrarily like that? I don't know....

Its piqued my interest in the story side of DA2 at least. Now hopefully the PC gameplay shapes up ok. And who knows, maybe we'll get some news about any possible September Morrigan DLC soon? You figure that Xbox usually announces new DLC for the coming month in the first week of the month, so if anything is coming in September, it'll be announced in the next couple weeks I think...

That picture... it's...... I'm in love. Posted Image 

As for Blur getting lazy and using placeholders, I HIGHLY doubt it. Do we have a Morrigan clone army on our hands in that case? My head says no and my heart says **** no. I'm not worried about the story, it's the lack of the Warden, ME influence (as much as the IGN guy says that we shouldn't worry about it, the full VO and wheel completely cancel out anything he says. That's going through the ME meat grinder already if you ask me) and total 180 on the spiritual successor to BG thing in favor of something faster that turned me off of buying it. Ya, I stand by that choice, I'll rent it for sure and maybe even buy it when it's cheaper but the whole bro-ification of this awesome franchise totally took me for a ride when DA2 was first anounced.

But I'm getting way off topic. I'd say that an army of Morrigan's sisters is way more likely. Who knows? Maybe Flemeth could shape shift into Morri and split a thousand times? Ya, that's just dumb forget I said that.

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GardenSnake wrote...
 Maybe Flemeth could shape shift into Morri and split a thousand times? Ya, that's just dumb forget I said that.


Hahahaha... The Morriclone Army has given me countless ideas..I think Agent Smith would be proud of Morrigan's cloning ability:

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:lol:

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lolz

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'Tis inevatable mr Smith!

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This was pointed out in another thread, but I didn't notice it:

rexil wrote...

I posted this in the other topic but it got locked...
I noticed this while I was watching the trailer frame by frame
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They are using the same kind of "staffs", isn't it...



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Brockololly wrote...

This was pointed out in another thread, but I didn't notice it:

rexil wrote...

I posted this in the other topic but it got locked...
I noticed this while I was watching the trailer frame by frame
They are using the same kind of "staffs", isn't it...

Ok. What are you thoughts on this?

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Aphetto_LC wrote...

Ok. What are you thoughts on this?


I HAVE NO CLUE!

Just further proof they're all part of Flemeth's Big Bad Morriclone Army?:wizard:

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It's the perfect plan to bring down the chantry!



1. Create Morri-Clone army

2. Set it loose upon a Templar army

3. ??????

4. Flemeth crowned Emperor of Thedas



The devious perfection of such a taught and well executed plan.

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GardenSnake wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Hey its Morri Fett, the unaltered clone of Jango Flemeth!:blink:

Posted Image

As far as the Morrigan Clone Army idea- I don't know. I'm not too keen on it as it seems stupid, quite frankly. Could Blur have been lazy and just used Morrigan as a placeholder for a split second shot? Hmmmm.... I don't know. I doubt they'd just use Morrigan of all people as a placeholder- they surely copied some of the Morriclones within the little army, but to just use Morrigan arbitrarily like that? I don't know....

Its piqued my interest in the story side of DA2 at least. Now hopefully the PC gameplay shapes up ok. And who knows, maybe we'll get some news about any possible September Morrigan DLC soon? You figure that Xbox usually announces new DLC for the coming month in the first week of the month, so if anything is coming in September, it'll be announced in the next couple weeks I think...

That picture... it's...... I'm in love. Posted Image 

As for Blur getting lazy and using placeholders, I HIGHLY doubt it. Do we have a Morrigan clone army on our hands in that case? My head says no and my heart says **** no. I'm not worried about the story, it's the lack of the Warden, ME influence (as much as the IGN guy says that we shouldn't worry about it, the full VO and wheel completely cancel out anything he says. That's going through the ME meat grinder already if you ask me) and total 180 on the spiritual successor to BG thing in favor of something faster that turned me off of buying it. Ya, I stand by that choice, I'll rent it for sure and maybe even buy it when it's cheaper but the whole bro-ification of this awesome franchise totally took me for a ride when DA2 was first anounced.

But I'm getting way off topic. I'd say that an army of Morrigan's sisters is way more likely. Who knows? Maybe Flemeth could shape shift into Morri and split a thousand times? Ya, that's just dumb forget I said that.


I'm pretty sure Blur got a little lazy. XD They reused their deep roads model for that sequence Hawke opens the door. Haha. It's the same model from The Calling. (There's actually an image in deviantART of that model and it got a daily dev. Just can't find it. >.< )

I can't resisting chuckling over the Morriclone army image. xD For some reason. Maybe Flemeth is starting a new fashion trend? Hahaha. *is tempted to draw Morriclone army art*

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ximena wrote...

I can't resisting chuckling over the Morriclone army image. xD For some reason. Maybe Flemeth is starting a new fashion trend? Hahaha. *is tempted to draw Morriclone army art*


Yes a Morri-Clone army armed with the most potent weapon of all, Disapproving. :D

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ximena wrote...

I'm pretty sure Blur got a little lazy. XD They reused their deep roads model for that sequence Hawke opens the door. Haha. It's the same model from The Calling. (There's actually an image in deviantART of that model and it got a daily dev. Just can't find it. >.< )


I remember seeing that image of the darkspawn from the Calling trailer on deviantart. But yeah, when Hawke opens the doors in the trailer its pretty clearly the Deep Roads from the Calling trailer- just emptied out.


ximena wrote...
I can't resisting chuckling over the Morriclone army image. xD For some reason. Maybe Flemeth is starting a new fashion trend? Hahaha. *is tempted to draw Morriclone army art*


But even if Blur got lazy, why pick Morrigan of all people to clone all over? They even have several of the Morriclones in the same pose:

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I don't know what the heck BioWare is thinking these days. I'm thinking probably that Morriclone Army is actually just one of Flemeth's army full of different Witches of the Wilds, like she supposedly raised in Cormac's time, perhaps? Or maybe she clones Morrigan in giant vats under her hut, who knows?:P

Modifié par Brockololly, 18 août 2010 - 02:28 .


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I doubt that there will be Morri clones, most likey that is the uniform of the Flemeth army.



@Brock how do you link imageshack images, that are just images and not links back to your site.

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Flemeth has a uniform code for her followers. xD

As for using Morrigan, perhaps it means something.Perhaps not. Hmmm. More questions in the air.

Modifié par ximena, 18 août 2010 - 02:46 .


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Well, Zevran did ask Morrigan if she'd ever met any of her sisters... or something like that.



And are we sure the Morriclone army is fighting chantry templars? I haven't seen a pic. Does their armor give them away?




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Giggles_Manically wrote...

@Brock how do you link imageshack images, that are just images and not links back to your site.


I just zoom in and right click "view image" to get it to fill up the whole screen.

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phaonica wrote...

Well, Zevran did ask Morrigan if she'd ever met any of her sisters... or something like that.

And are we sure the Morriclone army is fighting chantry templars? I haven't seen a pic. Does their armor give them away?


Yeah, the notion that there may be other Witches of the Wilds out there was mentioned by Zevran- Here is the conversation. Hmmm.. is this some serious foreshadowing?
  • Zevran: So if the legend of your mother is true, Morrigan, does that mean that the legends of her many daughters are as well?
  • Morrigan: To be honest, I have no idea. I've never met any sister of mine, nor has my mother spoken of any.
  • Zevran: But it could be true, yes? If you exist, there could have been others like you.
  • Morrigan: Long ago, perhaps. Why?
  • Zevran: We have legends of witches in Antiva. one that tells of a Witch of the Wild, traveled far from her home to settle in the Tellari Swamps.
  • Morrigan: And? You thought I might know this woman?
  • Zevran: If one legend can be true, why not another? Who knows how many Morrigans are scattered about Thedas, hmm?
  • Morrigan: It's not something I'd like to contemplate.
  • Zevran: Oh? You do not appreciate a little competition from a half-sister or two?
  • Morrigan: Silence, elf. It is none of your concern.
Puts the whole MorriClone Army in perspective, maybe....

As for who the MorriClones were fighting- I'm pretty damn sure they are Templars. If you look here, you can see the sword symbol on the shield which is pretty Templar-ish and they've seemingly got the Templar robes going on too:
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And random Morrigan factoid of the day: Who needs any closure with Morrigan and the Warden? Bah! How is this for cross-marketing brilliance from EA? Morrigan will appear in MySims SkyHeroes! What the hell is the world coming to?
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