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THE Morrigan Discussion and Research Thread *Infested with Bugs Yet Again!*


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Jarlof Seoul

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Aphetto_LC wrote...

Bioware has placed the first wave of Dragon Age: Origins action figures up for pre-order. Not that impressed with how they portrayed Morrigan.

biowarestore.com/dragon-age-accessories


Not that impressed but they're look ok enough.May have to get me one of those and the Duncan one, too.

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Aphetto_LC wrote...

Bioware has placed the first wave of Dragon Age: Origins action figures up for pre-order. Not that impressed with how they portrayed Morrigan.

biowarestore.com/dragon-age-accessories


Call me old, but i still remember and cherish the days when games were just about the game. I play games for way too many years now, and i enjoyed alot of them, but i never felt the need to bya action figures of my favorite characters. Why games can't just be games and needs to be all about merchandise is beyond me.

I for one have no intention to buy a Morrigan action figure, And i always feel like this kind of "merchandiase" just devalues a once was serious game.

Might not be the right time to ask this after my rant (:)), but anyone willing to buy the Morrigan figure?

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It's been over 10 years since I last bought a video game figurine. I might have to ask my cousins if they still happen to play with them, 'cuz then I might get them one, but...

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Hmm, the morri one is a bit fail.

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MoSa09 wrote...
Call me old, but i still remember and cherish the days when games were just about the game. I play games for way too many years now, and i enjoyed alot of them, but i never felt the need to bya action figures of my favorite characters. Why games can't just be games and needs to be all about merchandise is beyond me.

Because they earn more money this way.

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Star Wars has made more on extras then the films could ever hope to.

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MoSa09 wrote...
Call me old, but i still remember and cherish the days when games were just about the game. I play games for way too many years now, and i enjoyed alot of them, but i never felt the need to bya action figures of my favorite characters. Why games can't just be games and needs to be all about merchandise is beyond me.

Ah, back when there was only one difficulty setting and the sole purpose of the video game was to beat it.  ^_^

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As Yoghurt from Spaceballs once said - it's all about 'Merchandising! Merchandising!'



I like collectables and I like Dragon Age & Morrigan so I'll happily get her figure.

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Aphetto_LC wrote...

Bioware has placed the first wave of Dragon Age: Origins action figures up for pre-order. Not that impressed with how they portrayed Morrigan.

biowarestore.com/dragon-age-accessories


I hope those aren't finished products. You look at what DCU did for Warcraft and those and that's a serious drop in quality.

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Brockololly wrote...

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When catering to the ADD crowd works in our favor! What's better than a Morrigan, three hundred o' them!

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Swoo wrote...

When catering to the ADD crowd works in our favor! What's better than a Morrigan, three hundred o' them!


Ha- I can see it playing out like this in DA2:

300 Morrigans simultaneously: "Tis cold in my tent all alone."

Hawke: .................."Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice..... *pops collar and struts off towards 300 Morrigans*

*Meanwhile, Warden is crushed by rock*

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Hawke uses blood magic and devides into 300 hawke clones, "lets party" hope ur tent is big enough lol.

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Nighwolfa wrote...

Hawke uses blood magic and devides into 300 hawke clones, "lets party" hope ur tent is big enough lol.


Is it wrong I would approve of this scene if there were only one Morrigan?

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jln.francisco wrote...

Nighwolfa wrote...

Hawke uses blood magic and devides into 300 hawke clones, "lets party" hope ur tent is big enough lol.


Is it wrong I would approve of this scene if there were only one Morrigan?



Lol, each to there own fantasy :innocent:

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Helloooo, Morri men.  I wanted to let you know that I wrote a short story, very Morrigan-focused and about the final battle.  I put a little something for you in it.  I think you'll recognize it when you see it.  :)

Modifié par Addai67, 21 août 2010 - 06:39 .


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Very nicely done Addai! The whole chat in the Fade was very neat- it would have been cool to have that sort of thing play out in the actual game.

A couple of more recent Gaider quotes pertaining to Morrigan in the future:

From this thread:

[quote]David Gaider wrote...

[quote]Collider wrote...
It's  strange for people to complain of the Warden's story not importing  (nevermind the fact that it can be imported). Dragon Age: Origins, if I  recall, prior to it's release had never been said to be a game that one  could import into other games. [/quote]

It's not that strange. Origins more or less ends with the main character doing the proverbial  walk into the sunset (if they didn't die outright) and a promise that  they go on to "other adventures". For some people, they took that as "my character will appear in the sequels"-- whether that's a justifiable  expectation or not.

For others, the Morrigan romancers in  particular, they feel they didn't have enough closure. Rationally or  not, many of them seem to expect that this meant their Warden should  carry into the sequel because they still have business to finish with her.

I don't mind that. "Always leave them wanting more" is not a bad way to go. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

And who's to say they won't get some of those things? Just not in DA2. Like you said, however, the decisions you make in DAO can still have an  effect if you import them into DA2. But people will want what they want regardless.
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And this one from this thread, which may be relevant if we fear Morrigan looking all different if she shows up in DA2:
[quote]David Gaider wrote...

[quote]Dave of Canada wrote...
Although logic dictates that they'll follow the new art, I'm just fearful we won't recognize the characters.
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We couldn't make them look exactly like they did in DAO or Awakening...  that would look strange, next to the existing characters. And probably  not in a good way. Some will simply look outright different or will have enough recognizeable features that you can at least tell who they are-- like someone else said, as if the same character had been portrayed by a different artist.

Sten wouldn't have horns, however, if that's what you're asking. But he would otherwise look as the qunari do now.

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Thats worrisome to me, the vanilla Morrigan lover that I am...


And then we had the live chat with Laidlaw and Fernando at Gamescom. They actually answered a couple of my questions and had some interesting responses to a few others. I'll post some of the interesting ones:

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[Comment From David David: ] Fernando, will there be any more dlc for origins when DA2 comes out ? Fernando@BIoWare: Funny you should mention this... yes, we're not done with Origins yet :) More details very soon.
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Fernando@BIoWare: 
[Pedro Costa] - Hi there Fernando, I guess my first question is how
important will our decisions[...] in Origins affect the world in DA2?
Will they be nothing more than messages and small bones akin to ME2?

Depends on the decision and its relevance to DA2 - some choices in Origins (or  Awakening) are more integral to what is happening in DA2, others are  mere rumours of things that may be happening far away in ferelden - and  are reflected in that way [/quote]

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[Comment From Brockololly] So are the rumors of a Morrigan DLC in September true? Will the Warden  ever get a chance to deal with the consequences of the Dark Ritual?

Fernando@BIoWare: @Brockololly:
Rumours are rumours of course. But Morrigan is obviously an important  character in the DA world, and i'm sure it is not the last we've seen of her.
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Mike Laidlaw: @Juan:
We've enhanced our graphics engine to support a bunch of new technical  features such as self shadowing, enhanced terrain generation and  smoother lip synch and more face customization. It's not a complete  overhaul, but the end result looks better and runs smoother. [/quote]

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Mike Laidlaw: 12:25 [Youaremee]
Will Hawke now be the main protaganist throughout the series like Shepherd?
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Nope!
While hawke may have a continuing role in the series, I have always  viewed Dragon Age as a series of games about the world, rather than  about individual characters. Not to say Hawke isn't important, he is,  but the world is really our focus. [/quote]

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Fernando@BIoWare: [JuanDiez] - Good to hear the DA 2 engine is improving. Probably is a bit
early to ask but wi[...]ll the PC System Requirements grow much compared to DAO? Some we would like to have a hint if we would need to save for a new PC or a PC upgrade to be ready to play in March :-)

We're looking at supporting higher end cards/dx11, but low end should  hopefully be similar - so in short, if you can play DAO you should be  able to play DA2. But until all optimizations are in its hard to  confirm - that's the intent though [/quote]

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Mike Laidlaw: 12:52 [Brockololly]
Whats the deal with Flemeth?
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She's....important. And always more than she seems. [/quote]


So yeah..... Gaider once again hinting maybe Morrigan romancers get some closure, another "Morrigan is important and we haven't see the last of her" from Melo, the possibility of a DLC announcment very soon, and the prospect of Morrigan looking completely different in DA2.

I'm really curious to see how the old charcters like Morrigan would look in DA2- to have them changed up drastically like Gaider hinted seems to miss the point of them even returning in part.

As far as the DLC goes, my guess is that either something gets announced maybe at Gamescom today or tomorrow or possibly when DA2 goes to PAX in Seattle Spetember 3-5th. Hopefully its the Morrigan one....

And its interesting to hear that they're thinking about DX11 support for DA2- whether thats any sort of meaningful DX11 features or not is another matter I suppose....

Modifié par Brockololly, 21 août 2010 - 11:41 .


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Jarlof Seoul

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Brockololly wrote...

Swoo wrote...

When catering to the ADD crowd works in our favor! What's better than a Morrigan, three hundred o' them!


Ha- I can see it playing out like this in DA2:

300 Morrigans simultaneously: "Tis cold in my tent all alone."

Hawke: .................."Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice..... *pops collar and struts off towards 300 Morrigans*

*Meanwhile, Warden is crushed by rock*


Yeah. I feel like BW just tossed my Warden aside. Resolution is needed.

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Ah yes "people who want resolution" the supposed players who expect and end to a story, and wait to see the results of choices. Bah we have dismissed them for bros and money.

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They have confirmed 2 things in stone there imo, morri will NOT be in da2 (YESSS) and they are not finished with morri/warden story another YESS so looking good

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Nighwolfa wrote...

They have confirmed 2 things in stone there imo, morri will NOT be in da2 (YESSS) and they are not finished with morri/warden story another YESS so looking good


Mmmm.. I wouldn't go that far. I just interpreted Gaider and Melo's comments as meaning that the Warden won't be in DA2 but that doesn't preclude Morrigan by herself from making an appearance, seeing as Morrigan's story isn't over yet. And that IF the Warden/Morrigan storyline were to continue it would be in Origins, not DA2...

Modifié par Brockololly, 21 août 2010 - 01:13 .


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Brockololly wrote...

Nighwolfa wrote...

They have confirmed 2 things in stone there imo, morri will NOT be in da2 (YESSS) and they are not finished with morri/warden story another YESS so looking good


Mmmm.. I wouldn't go that far. I just interpreted Gaider and Melo's comments as meaning that the Warden won't be in DA2 but that doesn't preclude Morrigan by herself from making an appearance, seeing as Morrigan's story isn't over yet. And that IF the Warden/Morrigan storyline were to continue it would be in Origins, not DA2...


This then leads to another question - if there's post-DA2 content for Origins, how're the save imports gonna' work? ... or are we gonna' have to A) play DA2 multiple times so the post-DA2 Origins content is included or B) exclude any post-DA2 Origins content from our own canon storylines?

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Brockololly wrote...

Nighwolfa wrote...

They have confirmed 2 things in stone there imo, morri will NOT be in da2 (YESSS) and they are not finished with morri/warden story another YESS so looking good


Mmmm.. I wouldn't go that far. I just interpreted Gaider and Melo's comments as meaning that the Warden won't be in DA2 but that doesn't preclude Morrigan by herself from making an appearance, seeing as Morrigan's story isn't over yet. And that IF the Warden/Morrigan storyline were to continue it would be in Origins, not DA2...

So they plan on supporting Origins even after DA2 is released? Awesome. And of course the Morri/Warden story isn't going over to DA2, the Warden isn't in it.............Posted Image 

What's interesting is that in terms of romances, I actually romanced Morri the first part of the game and then decided to go with Leliana instead. So I technically did get closure in that department, but that's the thing, I'm still alive all because of this dark ritual. I may want to see Morrigan for a whole other reason unlike the Morri romancers (my second Warden romanced her all the way through, tragic stuff) but one thing we all have in common is the fact that all of our Warden's are still on Thedas because of the OGB that will most likely have strong reprocussions. As a writer, you can't write an obvious plot line/hook dangling like that and then expect everyone to just forget about it for the sequal. It just doesn't make sense. Posted Image

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Well atleast we have some answers its a start


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Nighwolfa wrote...

They have confirmed 2 things in stone there imo, morri will NOT be in da2 (YESSS) and they are not finished with morri/warden story another YESS so looking good


That's great news about morri/warden not finished! :wizard:

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MKDAWUSS wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Nighwolfa wrote...

They have confirmed 2 things in stone there imo, morri will NOT be in da2 (YESSS) and they are not finished with morri/warden story another YESS so looking good


Mmmm.. I wouldn't go that far. I just interpreted Gaider and Melo's comments as meaning that the Warden won't be in DA2 but that doesn't preclude Morrigan by herself from making an appearance, seeing as Morrigan's story isn't over yet. And that IF the Warden/Morrigan storyline were to continue it would be in Origins, not DA2...


This then leads to another question - if there's post-DA2 content for Origins, how're the save imports gonna' work? ... or are we gonna' have to A) play DA2 multiple times so the post-DA2 Origins content is included or B) exclude any post-DA2 Origins content from our own canon storylines?


I'm guessing the latter.