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[Brockololly]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

So Morrigan cares only for her own survival, and nothing else?

I thought that if the Warden loves her, or befriended her that she would come to care for them as much.

Thats something interesting to see, if Morrigan had to choose between saving herself, or risking her own life to save the warden what would she choose?

Well, we do know from Aimo and Gaider's comic that Morrigan doesn't do the DR solely for herself. If she is friendly or in love with the Warden she does the DR as much to keep the Warden alive as anything else. It seems the Dr and OGB are Morrigan's ultimate goal, but we still don't really know what the results of the DR will be for Morrigan. From some of the dialogue and Aimo's comic, it almost seems as if Morrigan is making a sacrifice by doing the DR- that its something she has been destined to do and yet might have some doubts about it but doesn't want to let those show....

soundchaser721 wrote...

Yeah thats the thing with morrigan, you don't
know if she really loves the warden or not, while she never outright
tells you she loves you, she does call you "my love" at the gates of
denerim, but she leaves at the end no matter what so its hard to tell
what she would choose though i think she genuinely cares for the warden

Like you said she calls the Warden "My love" and if you go through a bunch of her dialogue she does love the Warden if you romanced her. As Gaider explained a while back, its just that while she loves the Warden and sees leaving him as a difficult thing to do, its ultimately something she feels she needs to do- for what reason, we ultimately don't know...

Modifié par Brockololly, 24 août 2010 - 01:01 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Maybe that is why Morrigan is so hurt in the DR scene.



If her friend or lover wont trust her that has got to hurt a great deal.

Although she dosent trust you in the first place, so she really dosent have a pulpit to preach from here.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Brockololly wrote...


That was one of the reasons the DR scene still bugs me- all throughout Origins Morrigan is all about her own survival and her own power.Yet you get to her explanation for wanting the Old God baby and its some vague reasoning of wanting to preserve an uncorrupted ancient power to serve as a "symbol of freedom." A symbol of freedom to whom?

That just struck me as a real abrupt shift in her character- for 95% of the game she is all about herself and yet in the DR scene it seems as if she is making a personal sacrifice to restore Urthemiel to serve as a symbol of freedom? Without knowing more about her plans, it just seems awfully out of character.... Maybe thats another facet of her characetr we hadn't seen, but if thats the case it would have been nice to have had a little foreshadowing on that point prior to the DR.

But Morrigan does tell you to release both Sten and Jowan simply out of mercy, even if we can't find a use for them. Though it might be simply to spite the Chantry, as Sten is being arrested by Templars and Jowan is a malefecarum.
This of course is put in question when she doesn't want to help the mages from being annulled and approves of sacrificing elves in a beneficial blood ritual.  

The situations are different, but I won't get into that. But it seems to me that Morrigan is sometimes interested in things that don't necessarily involve her power or survival.

[Brockololly]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

But Morrigan does tell you to release both Sten and Jowan simply out of mercy, even if we can't find a use for them. Though it might be simply to spite the Chantry, as Sten is being arrested by Templars and Jowan is a malefecarum.
This of course is put in question when she doesn't want to help the mages from being annulled and approves of sacrificing elves in a beneficial blood ritual.  

The situations are different, but I won't get into that. But it seems to me that Morrigan is sometimes interested in things that don't necessarily involve her power or survival.

Yeah, she may opt for freeing Sten or Jowan to spite the Chantry. Conversely it may be because they both represent unknown quantities to an extent- Sten being a exotic Qunari all the way down in Ferelden and Jowan, despite being a wimp, posessing the knowledge of blood magic.

It just seems sometimes that Morrigan sort of just plays the contrarian- I don't know if thats a fault of the writing or if you could make sense of all her actions within her worldview.

Modifié par Brockololly, 24 août 2010 - 01:49 .

[ximena]

Doesn't really include Morrigan. But what if our m!Wardens who romanced Morrigan crossed paths. XD







By Emedeme





Just wanted to sneak that by. XD Throw in something little fun in the thread. *coughs*

[Brockololly]

I love Emedeme's Morrigan comics- very funny stuff

[GardenSnake]

Well characters can have temporary 'mood swings' that seem out of character right? People do it all the time. A person that's generally nice and understanding can be having a really crappy day and make it seem like they want to hurt or insult everyone they see and vice versa. It works kind of the same for food. I can say I'll never eat brocolli, not even in the face of death and the next day I could decide to try it, I mean why not? Same thing for characters in Origins. Maybe for those few moments for Sten and Jowan Morrigan may have thought to herself," why not try out this 'caring' thing. Not everything can always be about me can it?" It may have been just to spite the Chantry but who knows? I am right to a certain extent, we see her trying new things in terms of trusting someone in the romance/friendship.



Oh and as a side note, I finished The Stolen Throne today and as much as I want to rant right now I'll restrain myself.... I will say this however. Maric the Savior? More like Maric the King who is way too easily persuaded by Loghain to completely forget who he is and become a complete **** just like him to get his kingdom back. Seriously, it seems like both Cailan and Alistair both inherited their dad's long forgoten good attributes attitude wise and Loghain tried to make sure those features didn't get passed on by dooming Cailan and trying to kill Alistair at any cost. Ya and while I'm at it, screw Loghain too. He's scum in my eyes. Say what you want about him loving his country, but brushing aside your friends' personal interests to do so is just wrong.



Didn't think that would take that much space up......

[GardenSnake]

ximena wrote...

Doesn't really include Morrigan. But what if our m!Wardens who romanced Morrigan crossed paths. XD



By Emedeme


Just wanted to sneak that by. XD Throw in something little fun in the thread. *coughs*

 LOL that's awesome.

[Master Shiori]

soundchaser721 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

So Morrigan cares only for her own survival, and nothing else?

I thought that if the Warden loves her, or befriended her that she would come to care for them as much.

Thats something interesting to see, if Morrigan had to choose between saving herself, or risking her own life to save the warden what would she choose?

Yeah thats the thing with morrigan, you don't know if she really loves the warden or not, while she never outright tells you she loves you, she does call you "my love" at the gates of denerim, but she leaves at the end no matter what so its hard to tell what she would choose though i think she genuinely cares for the warden

She does genuinely care for the Warden since David Gaider confirmed it. That's the reason she gives you her ring in the first place - a simbol of her feelings for you.

However, her plan has always been to get the OGB, but she wanted to do that with no fuss and no strings attached. Her falling in love with the Warden wasn't something she planned and it made things difficult.
In the end she had to go through with her plan, not just because it was important to her but also because it would save her lovers life.

[Brockololly]

Ok, found this video linked on the DA2 forums and it defnitely pertains to Morrigan in Dragon Age 2...or rather not being in Dragon Age 2:

http://www.youtube.c...ayer_embedded#!

(He starts talking about Morrigan at about the 1 minute mark)

So apparently its too obvious to actually continue Morrigan's story in DA2 and we'll have to wait until they milk the DA2 cashcow dry before we do anything else with Morrigan. The whole "tease" thing is getting old though already- if they're just going to drag out Morrigan's story for a billion games without getting any closure, I don't get it.

On one hand I don't necessarily want Hawke dealing with Morrigan, yet on the other hand, for me at least, yet another game where they don't answer any questions about Morrigan just causes me to tire of DA. I like the world and all, but the primary reason I'm still invested are the characters like Morrigan. I just hate having all of this post release DLC and Awakening come out and now DA2, only to have it answer none of the questions or tie up any loose ends from Origins. Morrigan's story is a good hook after Origins, IF DA2 had been about continuing Morrigan or the Warden's story.

Hopefully this Morrigan DLC surfaces soon and gives us some closure. Cause the whole teasing more Morrigan and closure only to never come hasn't left me wanting more- its just damn irritating. Its like finishing The Empire Strikes Back only to have the next Star Wars movie be some unrelated story about some random Jawa and his Rise to Power ruling the scrapyards of Tatooine on his Sandcrawler of the Gods. MIght be a good story, but its not the one I'm interested in.

I'm just worried they drag Morrigan's story out for so long that when they eventually maybe get to a conclusion, it'll go out with a whimper instead of a bang.

[GardenSnake]

Brockololly wrote...

Ok, found this video linked on the DA2 forums and it defnitely pertains to Morrigan in Dragon Age 2...or rather not being in Dragon Age 2:

http://www.youtube.c...ayer_embedded#!

(He starts talking about Morrigan at about the 1 minute mark)

So apparently its too obvious to actually continue Morrigan's story in DA2 and we'll have to wait until they milk the DA2 cashcow dry before we do anything else with Morrigan. The whole "tease" thing is getting old though already- if they're just going to drag out Morrigan's story for a billion games without getting any closure, I don't get it.

On one hand I don't necessarily want Hawke dealing with Morrigan, yet on the other hand, for me at least, yet another game where they don't answer any questions about Morrigan just causes me to tire of DA. I like the world and all, but the primary reason I'm still invested are the characters like Morrigan. I just hate having all of this post release DLC and Awakening come out and now DA2, only to have it answer none of the questions or tie up any loose ends from Origins. Morrigan's story is a good hook after Origins, IF DA2 had been about continuing Morrigan or the Warden's story.

Hopefully this Morrigan DLC surfaces soon and gives us some closure. Cause the whole teasing more Morrigan and closure only to never come hasn't left me wanting more- its just damn irritating. Its like finishing The Empire Strikes Back only to have the next Star Wars movie be some unrelated story about some random Jawa and his Rise to Power ruling the scrapyards of Tatooine on his Sandcrawler of the Gods. MIght be a good story, but its not the one I'm interested in.

I'm just worried they drag Morrigan's story out for so long that when they eventually maybe get to a conclusion, it'll go out with a whimper instead of a bang.

Well it's obvious to me that Laidlaw pretty much says that HAwke is going to start some crap with The Old Gods, they're going to come back, Flemeth fits in somewhere, the Chantry is running for its life and that's the end of the game. Now the OGB can be the main character in DA3 and try to set things right or **** them up even more. Goodie.

So basically I should just start praying that the Warden is in DA3 now? Perfect, gives me a hell of a head start.

[Brockololly]

If we're going to be Morrigan deprived in DA2, then I'll just look forward to any DLC and DA3 then it seems.



I'm wondering- sort of like Addai's fanfic she linked a couple pages back, what if any "reunion" with Morrigan in any possible DLC isn't actually in person, but simply through the Fade?

[adneate]

GardenSnake wrote...

So basically I should just start praying that the Warden is in DA3 now? Perfect, gives me a hell of a head start.

They're done with The Warden for good, the ending you get in either Origins or Awakening is it. They really don't care about the worth of The Warden or the attachment players have to their Warden. The best they'll give us is that they probably won't kill The Warden off so we can assume they went and did whatever it is they did. Morrigan romance Wardens might get something from a DLC but who knows, we'll see what they announce in the coming weeks. Still gotta love the idea of charging extra for a proper end to your story, can't pay and you get the rubbish one.

Every entry in the series will star a new player character, Hawke is just one more in how ever many more the plan to do. Basically if a new player can't jump right in and not miss anything they won't do it, for DLC they might but not a full entry.

[soundchaser721]

Brockololly wrote...

Ok, found this video linked on the DA2 forums and it defnitely pertains to Morrigan in Dragon Age 2...or rather not being in Dragon Age 2:

http://www.youtube.c...ayer_embedded#!

(He starts talking about Morrigan at about the 1 minute mark)

So apparently its too obvious to actually continue Morrigan's story in DA2 and we'll have to wait until they milk the DA2 cashcow dry before we do anything else with Morrigan. The whole "tease" thing is getting old though already- if they're just going to drag out Morrigan's story for a billion games without getting any closure, I don't get it.

On one hand I don't necessarily want Hawke dealing with Morrigan, yet on the other hand, for me at least, yet another game where they don't answer any questions about Morrigan just causes me to tire of DA. I like the world and all, but the primary reason I'm still invested are the characters like Morrigan. I just hate having all of this post release DLC and Awakening come out and now DA2, only to have it answer none of the questions or tie up any loose ends from Origins. Morrigan's story is a good hook after Origins, IF DA2 had been about continuing Morrigan or the Warden's story.

Hopefully this Morrigan DLC surfaces soon and gives us some closure. Cause the whole teasing more Morrigan and closure only to never come hasn't left me wanting more- its just damn irritating. Its like finishing The Empire Strikes Back only to have the next Star Wars movie be some unrelated story about some random Jawa and his Rise to Power ruling the scrapyards of Tatooine on his Sandcrawler of the Gods. MIght be a good story, but its not the one I'm interested in.

I'm just worried they drag Morrigan's story out for so long that when they eventually maybe get to a conclusion, it'll go out with a whimper instead of a bang.

That interview was pretty distressing, he basically said that dragon age 2 would set things up for the conclusion of morrigan's story, honestly i can't take anymore of these dangling plot lines. Making players wait for years to find out what happens to their favorite characters is just ridiculous and cruel and at that point many people would loose interest. It just makes no sense to me at all, morrigan's story was one of the biggest plot lines in the original, and the one most prime for a sequel. Why drag it out for years and years?

[Master Shiori]

Brockololly wrote...

Ok, found this video linked on the DA2 forums and it defnitely pertains to Morrigan in Dragon Age 2...or rather not being in Dragon Age 2:

http://www.youtube.c...ayer_embedded#!

(He starts talking about Morrigan at about the 1 minute mark)

So apparently its too obvious to actually continue Morrigan's story in DA2 and we'll have to wait until they milk the DA2 cashcow dry before we do anything else with Morrigan. The whole "tease" thing is getting old though already- if they're just going to drag out Morrigan's story for a billion games without getting any closure, I don't get it.

On one hand I don't necessarily want Hawke dealing with Morrigan, yet on the other hand, for me at least, yet another game where they don't answer any questions about Morrigan just causes me to tire of DA. I like the world and all, but the primary reason I'm still invested are the characters like Morrigan. I just hate having all of this post release DLC and Awakening come out and now DA2, only to have it answer none of the questions or tie up any loose ends from Origins. Morrigan's story is a good hook after Origins, IF DA2 had been about continuing Morrigan or the Warden's story.

Hopefully this Morrigan DLC surfaces soon and gives us some closure. Cause the whole teasing more Morrigan and closure only to never come hasn't left me wanting more- its just damn irritating. Its like finishing The Empire Strikes Back only to have the next Star Wars movie be some unrelated story about some random Jawa and his Rise to Power ruling the scrapyards of Tatooine on his Sandcrawler of the Gods. MIght be a good story, but its not the one I'm interested in.

I'm just worried they drag Morrigan's story out for so long that when they eventually maybe get to a conclusion, it'll go out with a whimper instead of a bang.

Pretty much confirms what I expected and said. Hawke's story in DA2 will set up the groundwork for Morrigan's return in DA3. The relationship between her and the Warden will get closure in the upcoming DLC, leaving Morri free to do her own stuff.

I'm glad to hear they've got big plans for Morrigan and she may yet turn out to be a central character to the Dragon Age franchise, as some of us have speculated since Origins. My guess is that they'll have Morrigan wrap up the current storyline in DA3 and then fast forward into the next age where we'll have all new characters, changed world and new adventures.

[Aphetto_LC]

Sounds to me that plot holes are going to be a constant issue regarding the Dragon Age series. Not only can Bioware not finish its first story, they lead fans on that there will be some sort of conclusion only for none to occur. I am sorry but that is bad writing.

[macrocarl]

There's nothing that's been said that rules out that there will be 2 or more installments of Morrigan to finish up her story though...... Maybe that's wishful thinking since that would leave leg room for some DLC and some kind of follow up after DA2's release........

I mean, if it's *that* big a story for the DA universe then why not get chunks of it over a couple more stories? Maybe Hawke sees a different side to the DA while running around for 10 years? I'd buy them for sure if they were writen well and fun to play.

[Jarlof Seoul]

soundchaser721 wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Ok, found this video linked on the DA2 forums and it defnitely pertains to Morrigan in Dragon Age 2...or rather not being in Dragon Age 2:

http://www.youtube.c...ayer_embedded#!

(He starts talking about Morrigan at about the 1 minute mark)

So apparently its too obvious to actually continue Morrigan's story in DA2 and we'll have to wait until they milk the DA2 cashcow dry before we do anything else with Morrigan. The whole "tease" thing is getting old though already- if they're just going to drag out Morrigan's story for a billion games without getting any closure, I don't get it.

On one hand I don't necessarily want Hawke dealing with Morrigan, yet on the other hand, for me at least, yet another game where they don't answer any questions about Morrigan just causes me to tire of DA. I like the world and all, but the primary reason I'm still invested are the characters like Morrigan. I just hate having all of this post release DLC and Awakening come out and now DA2, only to have it answer none of the questions or tie up any loose ends from Origins. Morrigan's story is a good hook after Origins, IF DA2 had been about continuing Morrigan or the Warden's story.

Hopefully this Morrigan DLC surfaces soon and gives us some closure. Cause the whole teasing more Morrigan and closure only to never come hasn't left me wanting more- its just damn irritating. Its like finishing The Empire Strikes Back only to have the next Star Wars movie be some unrelated story about some random Jawa and his Rise to Power ruling the scrapyards of Tatooine on his Sandcrawler of the Gods. MIght be a good story, but its not the one I'm interested in.

I'm just worried they drag Morrigan's story out for so long that when they eventually maybe get to a conclusion, it'll go out with a whimper instead of a bang.

That interview was pretty distressing, he basically said that dragon age 2 would set things up for the conclusion of morrigan's story, honestly i can't take anymore of these dangling plot lines. Making players wait for years to find out what happens to their favorite characters is just ridiculous and cruel and at that point many people would loose interest. It just makes no sense to me at all, morrigan's story was one of the biggest plot lines in the original, and the one most prime for a sequel. Why drag it out for years and years?

Well, if they take years for a proper resolution to the Morrigan/Warden story I can be patient. Its easier when you have been computer gaming for 20+ years. It sucks. I want instant gratification but wouldn't mind extra waiting for a better product.

[Jarlof Seoul]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

So Morrigan cares only for her own survival, and nothing else?

I thought that if the Warden loves her, or befriended her that she would come to care for them as much.

Thats something interesting to see, if Morrigan had to choose between saving herself, or risking her own life to save the warden what would she choose?

She'd struggle. Like Vader seeing Luke fryied by ol' Palpy

[Brockololly]

RANTs  to follow!

adneate wrote...
Still gotta love the idea of charging extra for a proper end to your story, can't pay and you get the rubbish one.

Right? Its BS. The Morrigan romance "ending" in Origins is rubbish and now they'll likely charge who knows what so that you can play some half baked DLC to "finish Morrigan's romance!" I have no problem with whatever they charge for it, but its BS that theey don't finish the storylines within the actual game, especially if its not going to be dealt with in a significant manner in the sequel (which it won't.)

I just hope that if we get some sort of Morrigan DLC to give closure for the Warden that its actually meaningful and not another rubbish Awakening treatment.

adneate wrote...
Every entry in the series will star a new player character, Hawke is just one more in how ever many more the plan to do. Basically if a new player can't jump right in and not miss anything they won't do it, for DLC they might but not a full entry.

I'm fine with new PC's, but then you have to give the old PC's and their plots some ********** closure. What bugs me is that the Warden's role was to kill the Archdemon and stop the Blight, thats done so according to BioWare so is the Warden. Honestly, who ever questioned you wouldn't be able to kill the AD? For me, the most interesting and compelling plot line with DA was introduced at the end with Morrigan and the Dr- THATS what I want to see the consequences of. THATS the big choice from Origins. I don't care if Alistair is King or Behlen is King. Its BS when you have the biggest choice in the game and they're just trolling and teasing whether we'll ever see teh consequences of that choice. Ugh...

soundchaser721 wrote...
That interview was
pretty distressing, he basically said that dragon age 2 would set things
up for the conclusion of morrigan's story, honestly i can't take
anymore of these dangling plot lines. Making players wait for years to
find out what happens to their favorite characters is just ridiculous
and cruel and at that point many people would loose interest. It just
makes no sense to me at all, morrigan's story was one of the biggest
plot lines in the original, and the one most prime for a sequel. Why
drag it out for years and years?

I think its a matter of BioWare trying to be clever- the DR is the obvious plot hook as Laidlaw says, but in their attempt to go against the grain, they introduce Hawke and do something completely different in DA2. It would be like BioWare making BG2 then making NWN instead of ToB. Don't leave a damn cliffhanger ending if you don't intend to finish it for 4-5 years unil DA3 comes out.  Its like Gaider said before "Always leave them wanting more." Except its not a matter of wanting more, its called finishing your damn story before running off to the next revolving door of Epic Heroes of Thedas that will have their fair share of plot threads to be ignored.. But just wait- there will be some Morrigan tease at the end of DA2, only to be ignored again once. Sorry BioWare, I can only take so much of this "teasing"- its just damn annoying.

Master Shiori wrote...
Pretty much confirms
what I expected and said. Hawke's story in DA2 will set up the
groundwork for Morrigan's return in DA3. The relationship between her
and the Warden will get closure in the upcoming DLC, leaving Morri free
to do her own stuff.

It just bothers me that the essential story telling hook for DA2 and huge loose end - Morrigan and the DR- is likely only going to be glossed over in DA2 and at best might get mentioned come 2013 and beyond, whenever DA3 comes out. Some consequences there...Perhaps its just me being in a nasty mood, but even if we get some Morrigan DLC, I'm skeptical we'll get any closure at  this juncture. I just fail to understand why you throw such a cliffhanger in like the DR and start a new plot like the OGB when you have no intention of touching it for another several years at least.

Aphetto_LC wrote...
Sounds to me that plot holes are going
to be a constant issue regarding the Dragon Age series. Not only can
Bioware not finish its first story, they lead fans on that there will be
some sort of conclusion only for none to occur. I am sorry but that is
bad writing.

And this is one of my problems and concerns with BioWare's trollish approach in teasing and not finishing plots. Given the complexities in transferring data from game to game and seeing how generally poorly ME2 handled returning characters from ME1, do we really expect that another several years or so when DA3 comes out and maybe Morrigan shows back up, that its going to be the Morrigan we recognized at the end of Origins? It will most likely just be a stock, generic BioWare version of Morrigan and not the Morrigan that was influenced by the Warden. And they'll just explain it away by saying that its been 10 years since Origins and "time changes people," blah blah blah.

I wish I could have faith that BioWare would finish Morrigan and the Warden's story to some satisfactory end, but the longer they drag things out and tease some continuation, all the while releasing disposable DLC and expacks, I question whether should any closure or continuation eventually come, just how satisfying it may be.

*goes off to brainstorm his own Cousland/Morrigan comic*

Modifié par Brockololly, 24 août 2010 - 07:56 .

[Nighwolfa]

M.O.R.R.I.G.A.N ! ! ! !

[Master Shiori]

Brockololly wrote...


Right? Its BS. The Morrigan romance "ending" in Origins is rubbish and now they'll likely charge who knows what so that you can play some half baked DLC to "finish Morrigan's romance!" I have no problem with whatever they charge for it, but its BS that theey don't finish the storylines within the actual game, especially if its not going to be dealt with in a significant manner in the sequel (which it won't.)

I just hope that if we get some sort of Morrigan DLC to give closure for the Warden that its actually meaningful and not another rubbish Awakening treatment.


It just bothers me that the essential story telling hook for DA2 and huge loose end - Morrigan and the DR- is likely only going to be glossed over in DA2 and at best might get mentioned come 2013 and beyond, whenever DA3 comes out. Some consequences there...Perhaps its just me being in a nasty mood, but even if we get some Morrigan DLC, I'm skeptical we'll get any closure at  this juncture. I just fail to understand why you throw such a cliffhanger in like the DR and start a new plot like the OGB when you have no intention of touching it for another several years at least.

You need to keep a few things in mind.

For one, Morrigan played an important part in the Warden's story, but Warden isn't an important part of Morrigan's own story which seems to span across 3 games. The only Warden who has any right to find Morrigan again after the events of Origins is the one who romanced her, since his ending sets him down that path. For everyone else their relationship with Morri ended with Origins and so did their part in her story.

Second, DR, while being important, was also optional. This means not everyone did it and Bioware cannot force it on people just for the sake of showing it's consequneces. While they did promise to deal with the aftermath of DR, they will need to do so in a manner that doesn't violate anyone's choices.

Third, regardless of how it seems, DLC is the most realistic way of dealing with Morrigan romance. A lot of people didn't romance her or didn't do the DR. This means you're creating content that will appeal only to a certain number of people. What's more, it's closure to a story (romance between Morri and the Warden) that was entirely optional.
Bioware could have easily decided that catering to such a group of fans isn't worth the resources and thus leave us with what we had in Origins, even if it was a pretty "weak" ending to a romance (to put it in a most PC way possible). The fact they're actually making the DLC shows that they do care about what we think and want.
I can't say if the DLC will wrap up the romance in a satisfactory manner, but knowing how it ended in Origins makes me believe they'll try to give us an ending that will make the majority of people happy while leavig Morrigan free to be used in the future with no plot strings attached.

I hope they do it right.

[soundchaser721]

Master Shiori wrote...

Brockololly wrote...


Right? Its BS. The Morrigan romance "ending" in Origins is rubbish and now they'll likely charge who knows what so that you can play some half baked DLC to "finish Morrigan's romance!" I have no problem with whatever they charge for it, but its BS that theey don't finish the storylines within the actual game, especially if its not going to be dealt with in a significant manner in the sequel (which it won't.)

I just hope that if we get some sort of Morrigan DLC to give closure for the Warden that its actually meaningful and not another rubbish Awakening treatment.


It just bothers me that the essential story telling hook for DA2 and huge loose end - Morrigan and the DR- is likely only going to be glossed over in DA2 and at best might get mentioned come 2013 and beyond, whenever DA3 comes out. Some consequences there...Perhaps its just me being in a nasty mood, but even if we get some Morrigan DLC, I'm skeptical we'll get any closure at  this juncture. I just fail to understand why you throw such a cliffhanger in like the DR and start a new plot like the OGB when you have no intention of touching it for another several years at least.

You need to keep a few things in mind.

For one, Morrigan played an important part in the Warden's story, but Warden isn't an important part of Morrigan's own story which seems to span across 3 games. The only Warden who has any right to find Morrigan again after the events of Origins is the one who romanced her, since his ending sets him down that path. For everyone else their relationship with Morri ended with Origins and so did their part in her story.

Second, DR, while being important, was also optional. This means not everyone did it and Bioware cannot force it on people just for the sake of showing it's consequneces. While they did promise to deal with the aftermath of DR, they will need to do so in a manner that doesn't violate anyone's choices.

Third, regardless of how it seems, DLC is the most realistic way of dealing with Morrigan romance. A lot of people didn't romance her or didn't do the DR. This means you're creating content that will appeal only to a certain number of people. What's more, it's closure to a story (romance between Morri and the Warden) that was entirely optional.
Bioware could have easily decided that catering to such a group of fans isn't worth the resources and thus leave us with what we had in Origins, even if it was a pretty "weak" ending to a romance (to put it in a most PC way possible). The fact they're actually making the DLC shows that they do care about what we think and want.
I can't say if the DLC will wrap up the romance in a satisfactory manner, but knowing how it ended in Origins makes me believe they'll try to give us an ending that will make the majority of people happy while leavig Morrigan free to be used in the future with no plot strings attached.

I hope they do it right.

So its been confirmed that they're making the morrigan dlc? Either way you have a point in saying that them making this dlc shows that they care, but up until this point everythings been a bit of a shot to the balls to morrigan fans. When awakening was announced and the "return of an old favorite" line was dropped a lot of people thought that it was morrigan. I was pretty bummed when there wasn't even a mention of morrigan by name in awakening (otherwise awakening was a fine expansion) Then when news started circulating about dragon age 2 im sure people expected to be able to port their characters and that morrigan would play a big role in it, and then they laid that hawke crap on us. So yes bioware does care about us, but they've sure given us some pretty big teases so far and i dont have full confidence that they'll end the story well

[Brockololly]

soundchaser721 wrote...

So its been confirmed that they're making the morrigan dlc?

No, not yet. All we're going on are some vague quotes by Gaider and a very vague rumor that there may be Morrigan DLC in September. No confirmation though.

soundchaser721 wrote...
So yes bioware does care about us, but they've sure given us some pretty big teases so far and i dont have full confidence that they'll end the story well

BioWare is a business so of course they'd want to make a DLC that they think can sell well- if thats a Morrigan DLC , then great. Its one thing to get a MOrrigan DLC though and quite another for it to do any oft the things we're hoping it may do insofar as the Warden goes. After the rubbish DR ending and the lackluster focus on story in all of the postrelease content, even if they announce a Morrigan DLC, I'm going to try not to get too excited, lest we end up being Gaider'd all over again.

[Master Shiori]

soundchaser721 wrote...

So its been confirmed that they're making the morrigan dlc?

No, they didn't officialy confirm it, but if you read what Mike Laidlaw and other devs said in various interviews you'll see they're heavily hinting at such a DLC being in the works.

Bioware's policy is not to comment on unanounced projects, so until they're ready to reveal the details we'll have to find the hints and connect the dots to get a clear picture.