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THE Morrigan Discussion and Research Thread *Infested with Bugs Yet Again!*


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Brockololly wrote...

So if we're playing with Terra's mod we should be ok, you think?

I was thinking of maybe PM'ing Melo to ask if maybe a tech person could check Terra's mod to see if it conflicts with anything in Witch Hunt...


I have my dounbts they have the time or intention to look into the mod. Confirmation what your status at the end of Origins

1. friendly/ring epilogue slide

2. love/no ring epilogue slide

would be sufficient for the dlc to recognize you as having a relationship with Morrigan going on would be enough, right?

And my guess is asking can never hurt, its not like that bug popped out of nowhere today. Its known, at least among her fans, since April now.

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MoSa09 wrote...

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General rule when it comes to importing is: As long as Morrigan is flagged as "love" you're safe.

So, any save after the DR where you didn't talk to Morrigan after she gave you her farewell speech at the gates should work properly when imported.

For Awakening, as long as you got the epilogue about the Warden leaving to search for Morrigan everything should be fine.


you sure about that? I have a save right before the Dark Ritual, so i could qiete easily recreate an Origin save where she is still at love while missing out the ring/thinking-about-you epilogue slide


i have just checked with the Terra X mod and as far as i can tell it should be OK  (have 3 saves just before the Brood mother) just finished one 
ia least it works with Awakening the way it should (i get the warden is looking slide) and had the ring slide in Orrigens

hope this answers your question that i believe it works ok:wizard:

Modifié par wickedwizzard01, 25 août 2010 - 09:17 .


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Brockololly wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

MoSa09 wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

General rule when it comes to importing is: As long as Morrigan is flagged as "love" you're safe.

So, any save after the DR where you didn't talk to Morrigan after she gave you her farewell speech at the gates should work properly when imported.

For Awakening, as long as you got the epilogue about the Warden leaving to search for Morrigan everything should be fine.


you sure about that? I have a save right before the Dark Ritual, so i could qiete easily recreate an Origin save where she is still at love while missing out the ring/thinking-about-you epilogue slide


Yes, I'm sure.

What causes the problem with flags is when you talk to her after her farewell speech. That drops your aproval from "love" to "friendly" and the game thinks you never romanced Morrigan.

So, as long as you avoid talking to her at any point between farewel speech and the fight with the Archdemon you should be safe.


So if we're playing with Terra's mod we should be ok, you think?

I was thinking of maybe PM'ing Melo to ask if maybe a tech person could check Terra's mod to see if it conflicts with anything in Witch Hunt...


I believe we'll be ok Brock.

It works as intended in both Origins and Awakening so no reason it should glitch up in Witch Hunt.

Won't be 100% sure until I test it ofc, but so far there haven't been any complications.

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wickedwizzard01 wrote...

 i have just checked with the Terra X mod and as far as i can tell it should be OK 
ia least it works with Awakening the way it should (i get the warden is looking slide) and had the ring slide in Orrigenshope this answers your question that i believe it works ok:wizard:


thanks for the effort, but the issue is that i do not have the time to replay Origins using the mod. I am stuck with the saves without mod that i have, and that is either friendly/slide or replay the rather short final fight and create love/no slide.

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So this is the final DLC for Origins I take it?

Hope Morrigan returns nicer and Gaider gets to write her like he wants.



Also if this is Leliana Song quality goody,

If Golems, then I will go kick a nug.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Only a year after seperation? Meeh. This DLC can be what all of us are waiting for, or can turn out to be a disaster. It will make or break the entire thing. If it breaks it, I am positive that I will be un-enthusiastic about DA2.

Quoted for emphasis.

It is all or nothing....

As for the flag issue, I hope they don't screw it up this time around. If you used the mirror trick or a console command then there is a chance you got both flags(it's the only way to be 100% certain) but I'm not sure. Where's Terra when you need him? :happy:

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MoSa09 wrote...

wickedwizzard01 wrote...

 i have just checked with the Terra X mod and as far as i can tell it should be OK 
ia least it works with Awakening the way it should (i get the warden is looking slide) and had the ring slide in Orrigenshope this answers your question that i believe it works ok:wizard:






thanks for the effort, but the issue is that i do not have the time to replay Origins using the mod. I am stuck with the saves without mod that i have, and that is either friendly/slide or replay the rather short final fight and create love/no slide.


doing only the final battle works fine 
have done that before i installed the mod so i am sure that will work also:D

Modifié par wickedwizzard01, 25 août 2010 - 09:23 .


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blademaster7 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Only a year after seperation? Meeh. This DLC can be what all of us are waiting for, or can turn out to be a disaster. It will make or break the entire thing. If it breaks it, I am positive that I will be un-enthusiastic about DA2.

Quoted for emphasis.

It is all or nothing....

As for the flag issue, I hope they don't screw it up this time around. If you used the mirror trick or a console command then there is a chance you got both flags(it's the only way to be 100% certain) but I'm not sure. Where's Terra when you need him? :happy:


console command?

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Seems the safe bet would be to possibly import from Origins rather than Awakening if we're concerned about the botched flags...

Only downside would be being a lower level, but at least I'd keep my badass Warden Commander armor and Starfang, right?

Modifié par Brockololly, 25 août 2010 - 09:30 .


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indeed , was planning on doing that anyways,  to have one import from Awakening and one from Origins
though i am pretty sure my saves are ok
it is the safest to just import from Origins

Modifié par wickedwizzard01, 25 août 2010 - 09:31 .


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MoSa09 wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Only a year after seperation? Meeh. This DLC can be what all of us are waiting for, or can turn out to be a disaster. It will make or break the entire thing. If it breaks it, I am positive that I will be un-enthusiastic about DA2.

Quoted for emphasis.

It is all or nothing....

As for the flag issue, I hope they don't screw it up this time around. If you used the mirror trick or a console command then there is a chance you got both flags(it's the only way to be 100% certain) but I'm not sure. Where's Terra when you need him? :happy:


console command?


PC users only.

http://dragonage.wik...om/wiki/Console

Use the post-epilogue save to re-trigger the romance after she breaks up with you during the final battle by using the console command(same thing you do with the mirror, but if you don't have it then this is the alternative).

I'm not sure if you can get both flags working together or if one overrides the other though.

Having both flags would be ideal. This method will at least give you the "love" flag which is the safest of the two AND the .ppt slide with the ring.

Modifié par blademaster7, 25 août 2010 - 09:35 .


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or you cant import with that like Awakenings did Brock

#7513
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Brockololly wrote...

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:wub:


Due to the fact that I romanced Morrigan only once, with my canon, I have to say that I miss her a lot Posted ImagePosted Image

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blademaster7 wrote...

PC users only.

http://dragonage.wik...om/wiki/Console

Use the post-epilogue save to re-trigger the romance after she breaks up with you during the final battle by using the console command(same thing you do with the mirror, but if you don't have it then this is the alternative).

I'm not sure if you can get both flags working together or if one overrides the other though.


thx blade, i am giving it a shot. If it works, i can restart the romance in my epilogue save and even had proper epilogue slide. I'll try

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phaonica wrote...

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300 pages! Romance Morrigan like a Spartan!


Haw haw! Posted Image

I love this outfit for Morrigan way better than the one in the game.

Morrigan! Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image

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Apologies if I don't contribute to the in-depth discussion very much for now, I'm still a newbie on the DA forums.

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As for 360/PS3 users you can import a save right before you get that dreaded speech that kills the romance flag... :happy:

The game reads it just fine. You will only miss the XP from the final battle.

'Twould be alot easier if we can get a dev to confirm which flag will actually work, though.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

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:wub:


Due to the fact that I romanced Morrigan only once, with my canon, I have to say that I miss her a lot Posted ImagePosted Image


Just once?!

Damn it Knight. You've got some catching up to do ;)

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Apologies if I don't contribute to the in-depth discussion very much for now, I'm still a newbie on the DA forums.

#7520
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blademaster7 wrote...


PC users only.

http://dragonage.wik...om/wiki/Console

Use the post-epilogue save to re-trigger the romance after she breaks up with you during the final battle by using the console command(same thing you do with the mirror, but if you don't have it then this is the alternative).

I'm not sure if you can get both flags working together or if one overrides the other though.

Having both flags would be ideal. This method will at least give you the "love" flag which is the safest of the two AND the .ppt slide with the ring.


I just PM'd Fernando Melo asking which flags we should be worried about when importing to Witch Hunt, so I'll let anyone know if he responds with anything worthwhile.

So you can just use the console to set the flags for the romance? I remember trying to use the console to respawn the mirror after already giving it to Morrigan to try and set the love flag and that did not work in the post-epilogue save.

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Master Shiori wrote...
Just once?!

Damn it Knight. You've got some catching up to do ;)


This may sound weird (and girly), but because I based my canon PC on myself, I would feel...uneasy (jealous) if my other PCs romanced her.

Besides, I felt the Morrigan romance was perfectly told and experienced with my canon, and saw no point in replicating it. It would feel cheap for me.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 25 août 2010 - 09:47 .


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IndigoWolfe wrote...

Apologies if I don't contribute to the in-depth discussion very much for now, I'm still a newbie on the DA forums.


Hey, don't worry about it. We are all here to have fun (and cry).
Welcoem to the forums!

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blademaster7 wrote...

As for 360/PS3 users you can import a save right before you get that dreaded speech that kills the romance flag... :happy:

The game reads it just fine. You will only miss the XP from the final battle.

'Twould be alot easier if we can get a dev to confirm which flag will actually work, though.


Wait, what is this I hear? Should I be concerned about what I have my Morri-mancing Wardens do? I got the romance dialogue text just fine on my last playthrough. Posted Image

Modifié par IndigoWolfe, 25 août 2010 - 09:47 .


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IndigoWolfe wrote...

Apologies if I don't contribute to the in-depth discussion very much for now, I'm still a newbie on the DA forums.


no worries i'd say. Just a warm welcome ^_^

blademaster7 wrote...

As for 360/PS3 users you can import a save right before you get that dreaded speech that kills the romance flag... [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/happy.png[/smilie]

The game reads it just fine. You will only miss the XP from the final battle.

'Twould be alot easier if we can get a dev to confirm which flag will actually work, though.


oh boy, completely forgot about those poor fellows. They have no mood but are stuck with that bug no matter what.

Master Shiori wrote...

Just once?!

Damn it Knight. You've got some catching up to do ;)


Just once. Oh boy :) I guess its better not tell how many user made screen shots i had. I assume i have a screenshot of her  of every location of the game, from every possible angle. :D Am i mad? Most probably yes^_^

Brockololly wrote...

I just PM'd Fernando Melo asking which flags we should be worried about when importing to Witch Hunt, so
I'll let anyone know if he responds with anything worthwhile.


Hopefully, he'll respond and is not afraid you're asking for pre release spoilers and refuses to say anything. Sadly, that bug takes a long time to explain and i have the impression most devs stop reading somewhere in the middle if you try to explain within a pm, never bothering to continue reading it, let alone respond and investigate the matter

Modifié par MoSa09, 25 août 2010 - 09:53 .


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Brockololly wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...


PC users only.

http://dragonage.wik...om/wiki/Console

Use the post-epilogue save to re-trigger the romance after she breaks up with you during the final battle by using the console command(same thing you do with the mirror, but if you don't have it then this is the alternative).

I'm not sure if you can get both flags working together or if one overrides the other though.

Having both flags would be ideal. This method will at least give you the "love" flag which is the safest of the two AND the .ppt slide with the ring.


I just PM'd Fernando Melo asking which flags we should be worried about when importing to Witch Hunt, so I'll let anyone know if he responds with anything worthwhile.

So you can just use the console to set the flags for the romance? I remember trying to use the console to respawn the mirror after already giving it to Morrigan to try and set the love flag and that did not work in the post-epilogue save.

If you give her a second mirror(by creating one with the console) then she won't react -- you will just get approval.
The plot gifts get flagged in your save somehow and the related conversations are one-time only.

You can use the console to set the romance to active.

Open the console and type:

"runscript zz_app_debug"

Find Morrigan and set the romance to active.That's how I got my Warden ready for Awakening.  Be sure to back up your save before doing this!

Modifié par blademaster7, 25 août 2010 - 09:55 .