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[Brockololly]

Lord Gremlin wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

I'm wondering how many spoilers will leak out prior to Witch Hunt being released. I hadn't really though about that, but given that its only a couple hours long most likely, what are the odds that the trailer spoils things? Considering this is really (for me at least) the end of Origins, I may go dark for a bit prior to release. Especially considering that any achievements for Witch Hunt will no doubt leak out and possibly spoil things to some extent...hmmmmm...

Well, trailers usually show the beginning of DLC, it's not that bad.

Yeah, but I'm weary of this. It may not show huge spoilers, but with movie trailers and stuff I always hate it when you watch the trailer and a scene sticks in your head but maybe doesn't make sense. But once you start watching the movie, you recall the scenes from the trailers before they show up in the movie but from the context of the movie piece things together.

I was amazingly good at avoiding spoilers for Origins and since this is really the end of Origins, I'd hate to have it spoiled now.

[Master Shiori]

Brockololly wrote...

Hmmm.... what matter of package would Flemeth deliver to the Dalish? Again, add that to the fact that Witch Hunt deals with an ancient Elven artifact in ancient Elven ruins and it seems the Witches are definitely deeply involved with the ancient elves and probably Arlathan........immortality stuff? Blood magic? Old Gods? Shapeshifting?

Well, we don't know if the elven artifact in Witch Hunt and whatever it is that Flemeth gave Hawke are connected in any way.

Guessing at this point is almost pointless sicne we know so little about Flemeth and her plans, and even what we do know could be pure fiction rather then fact.

Also, here's the truly interesting thing: All the DA2 screenshots we've seen of Flemeth so far are from around the time Lothering was sacked by the darkspawn. This means the Warden hasn't killed her yet.

Does anyone think Flemeth might have a different body post DA:O? Or is she going to stick to the one we've seen so far?

Also, why is it that whenever i see Bethany I get "potential host" feeling? Female mage, apostate, black hair, skilled in magic... Sounds like a perfect fit if you need a new body in a rush.

[Brockololly]

Master Shiori wrote...

Does anyone think Flemeth might have a different body post DA:O? Or is she going to stick to the one we've seen so far?

Well, Flemeth is dead in all my playthroughs, so she'll need a new body if she is going to show up later on. The Flemeth we are seeing in the screens is definitely before she could have been killed in Origins, but I wonder if maybe even if she were to get a new body, would she stay in that form? It would seem odd for BioWare to redesign FLemeth and sort of make her the face of the game thus far along with Hawke, only to have her show up looking that way in one scene or so.

Master Shiori wrote...
Also, why is it that whenever i see Bethany I get "potential host" feeling? Female mage, apostate, black hair, skilled in magic... Sounds like a perfect fit if you need a new body in a rush.

Yup- exactly my thinking. It almost makes too much sense though, like bringing the Warden and crew back for DA2, so of course BioWare won't do that.

[Master Shiori]

Bored out of my mind.



Counting the days until Witch Hunt and Lair of the Shadowbroker. That Morri goodness can't come fast enough...

[Brockololly]

Master Shiori wrote...

Bored out of my mind.

Counting the days until Witch Hunt and Lair of the Shadowbroker. That Morri goodness can't come fast enough...

Yeah, I'm very excited for this DLC.

I only wish I was bored out of my mind. It sucks as classes just began for the semester so I'm now inundated with work, so I'm trying to be proactive and get as much stuff done before the 7th, so I can just sort of zone out with DA that Tuesday after classes.

I'm just dreading how slow the download will be, as no doubt a bazillion people will be killing the BioWare servers between Shadow Broker and Morrigan.

[Master Shiori]

My prediction is that we'll have a server crash.



Let's face is: no server can possibly cope with the awesomeness of Morrigan!!

[adneate]

Brockololly wrote...

I'm just dreading how slow the download will be, as no doubt a bazillion people will be killing the BioWare servers between Shadow Broker and Morrigan.

The servers were pretty badly swamped when Leliana's Song came out, no doubt the addition of a highly anticipated ME2 DLC won't help matters. That being said I found it easier to download files via the Social Network than using the in game manager, I pulled down Leliana's Song on release day twice in 30 minutes that being said I have a really fast connection in an area where there aren't many other users.

[MoSa09]

Master Shiori wrote...

Well, we don't know if the elven artifact in Witch Hunt and whatever it is that Flemeth gave Hawke are connected in any way.

you just gave me a nightmare, as i thought along the lines that this very artifact Flemeth gave to Hawke is the one Morrigan is looking for  later in Witch Hunt. Whatever that possible explanation might be, one my greatest feat (besides BW really messing up the closure) is that Witch Hunt turns out to be a 7 dollar marketing campain for DA 2 and Hawke, Bethany and Flemeth as well as hints on the new plot are everywhere.

This is the final dlc and should be about Origins and the characters appearing in it that get the closure, not about the future game.

Master Shiori wrote...
Also, why is it that whenever i see Bethany I get "potential host" feeling? Female mage, apostate, black hair, skilled in magic... Sounds like a perfect fit if you need a new body in a rush.

So i am not the only one who thinks whenever i see a screenshot of her "and her comes Flemeth new host".

[phaonica]

adneate wrote...

The servers were pretty badly swamped when Leliana's Song came out, no doubt the addition of a highly anticipated ME2 DLC won't help matters. That being said I found it easier to download files via the Social Network than using the in game manager, I pulled down Leliana's Song on release day twice in 30 minutes that being said I have a really fast connection in an area where there aren't many other users.

I've never gotten a single DLC to work through the game manager, I've had to download them all and install them manually from the Social Network. That does seem to work far better. And it gives me less "Unauthorized" problems to install it manually.

[Nerevar-as]

MoSa09 wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Well, we don't know if the elven artifact in Witch Hunt and whatever it is that Flemeth gave Hawke are connected in any way.

you just gave me a nightmare, as i thought along the lines that this very artifact Flemeth gave to Hawke is the one Morrigan is looking for  later in Witch Hunt. Whatever that possible explanation might be, one my greatest feat (besides BW really messing up the closure) is that Witch Hunt turns out to be a 7 dollar marketing campain for DA 2 and Hawke, Bethany and Flemeth as well as hints on the new plot are everywhere.

This is the final dlc and should be about Origins and the characters appearing in it that get the closure, not about the future game.

Master Shiori wrote...
Also, why is it that whenever i see Bethany I get "potential host" feeling? Female mage, apostate, black hair, skilled in magic... Sounds like a perfect fit if you need a new body in a rush.

So i am not the only one who thinks whenever i see a screenshot of her "and her comes Flemeth new host".

Well, this is the only point I see for GoA, so you might be right.

I wonder if it also will include new great supporting characters we won´t hear about as Awakening (great job setting up good characters and leaving clear most won´t be important anymore after the game) or Leliana´s Song (is it all will get from Sketch (sp?) and the human?).

[MoSa09]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Well, this is the only point I see for GoA, so you might be right.

I wonder if it also will include new great supporting characters we won´t hear about as Awakening (great job setting up good characters and leaving clear most won´t be important anymore after the game) or Leliana´s Song (is it all will get from Sketch (sp?) and the human?).

I know, GoA introduced the Harvester, and Witch Hunt seem to introduce the strider. I don't wanna end it like " here we have this cool new awesome foe Hawke, the ever-so-awesome hero of DA will have to battle, and oh, before we forget, here is that witch again, just what was her name?".

And i think it would feel right if this time your old companions would return. I know its not feasible, economically, i am not stupid and i don't expect it. But Morrigan was part of your core group, she is part of what made Origins, the real game, great, along with the other companions.

And even more, if you romanced her, almost everyone felt the need to drop a comment or confront you about the romance. For that, it would be right if they're at your sight, the ones that fought along with you throughout the whole of Origins, when you close the final chaper of this game. They just all belong together.

I know its not gonna happen and would be unwise, economically, but this is how it should have been if done REALLY right. Then again, the content after Origins have not evenb een close to being really right once.

So i guess the new companions will be walking weapons. Each party needs a mage and a warrior tank/damage dealer, so this is what you get, and no more.

[KendallX23]

dunno about u but if it will be possible i will try to play Hawke as ally of Flemeth so that maybe in the future he will clash with my Warden who is in romance to Morrigan...always fun to see to protagonists trying to kill each other

another thing....Morrigan DLC might explain the ending of Awakening where no matter what happened the Warden dissapeared without trace after a while...

[Brockololly]

adneate wrote...
That being said I found it easier to download files via the Social Network than using the in game manager, I pulled down Leliana's Song on release day twice in 30 minutes that being said I have a really fast connection in an area where there aren't many other users.

For all the issues I have with some of the DA stuff, I've never had an issue downloading DLC through the ingame browser. Sometimes it may take a while, but I've never had any big issues.

But I'll try downloading Witch Hunt through the social network, unless that crashes or something, like when they announced their "EPIC" community event....ugh.

MoSa09 wrote...

I know its not gonna happen and would be
unwise, economically, but this is how it should have been if done REALLY
right. Then again, the content after Origins have not evenb een close
to being really right once.

Yeah- instead of Awakening we should have had the expansion pack be focused on the Warden and mostly returning companions. With the search for Morrigan as a hub type quest.  I don't understand why BioWare waited so long with this Morrigan DLC though. Its easily the biggest loose end from Origins and one that many people wanted to see resolved. If you threw that in an expansion pack that sold for $40 versus a dinky $7 DLC.....I don't get it.

MoSa09 wrote...
So i guess the new companions will be walking weapons. Each party needs a mage and a warrior tank/damage  dealer, so this is what you get, and no more.

Yeah, I don't really understand the logic with all new companions in a DLC. Are we supposed to give a damn about them at all? Even in Awakening, I didn't really give a damn about most of the new characters. Thats my concern with DA as a franchise- if you just keep splurging out disconnected sequel after disconnected sequel, franchise fatigue will set in VERY fast, no matter how good the story may be. Honestly, the only reason I'm really interested in DA as a franchise right now is Morrigan and Flemeth. Since they're tossing the Warden to the curb, I'll be curious to see how DA2 is, but I'm not feeling any overwhelming urge to get it- and thats just strory-wise, not even considering all the ME style changes.

KendallX23 wrote...
Morrigan DLC might explain the ending of Awakening where no matter what happened the Warden dissapeared without trace after a while...

Thats an interesting thought I suppose. I'm wondering since this is really the end of Origins, will there be  any epilogue slides at the end of this DLC?

Modifié par Brockololly, 29 août 2010 - 09:20 .

[KendallX23]

don't think we'll get new epilogue slides...just an ending for the Warden...in DAO storyline anyway...i guess it continues in DA2 in a way....but seeing how the franchise is made for now...Flemeth and Morrigan are central to the plot

[MoSa09]

Brockololly wrote...

Thats an interesting thought I suppose. I'm wondering since this is really the end of Origins, will there be  any epilogue slides at the end of this DLC?

I can think of one, sadly.

Modifié par MoSa09, 29 août 2010 - 09:24 .

[Master Shiori]

MoSa09 wrote...


I know, GoA introduced the Harvester, and Witch Hunt seem to introduce the strider. I don't wanna end it like " here we have this cool new awesome foe Hawke, the ever-so-awesome hero of DA will have to battle, and oh, before we forget, here is that witch again, just what was her name?".

Don't worry.

That strider will most likely be a boss at the end of the DLC. However, I can guarantee you that you won't even hear about it until it's right in front of you, ready to be killed.

The focus of Witch Hunt, unlike Golems of Angarrak, is Morrigan herself. Bioware isn't going to waste money on hiring Claudia Black to record new lines only to have her character play a minor role in her own DLC.

Think of the strider as sort of easter egg monster. It's there to present a challenge to the player and as a sort of tease of what you can expect in DA2.

[Master Shiori]

Brockololly wrote...

Thats an interesting thought I suppose. I'm wondering since this is really the end of Origins, will there be  any epilogue slides at the end of this DLC?

Hmm, that's a good question.

Mosa's funny picture aside, I think they just might put in some epilogue slides, especially to explain the Warden/Morrigan relationship after the DLC and their immediate future.

Slides are dirt cheap to make so adding them isn't a problem.

And I'd like to believe that, this being the end of DA:O, Bioware will go to extra length to make it special. If we're saying goodbye we might as well part in high spirits.

[MoSa09]

Master Shiori wrote...

The focus of Witch Hunt, unlike Golems of Angarrak, is Morrigan herself. Bioware isn't going to waste money on hiring Claudia Black to record new lines only to have her character play a minor role in her own DLC.

Did they hired her again? I haven't heard anything like that. I was assuming, as i am certain some kind of content like this was planned from the very beginning (most probably larger, but its easier to cut than add), that they already recorded her extra lines for the Morrigan content while she was doing Origins. That way, BW could have saved alot of moneys, just paying for a few extra lines, instead of hiring her all over again.

Btw, do you think its possible Flemeth might appear as well? I would say a clear no as its too expensive to hire Kate Mulgree as well for a 7 dollar dlc, but she might be around to do her lines for DA 2 so they might take the opportunity to let Flemeth appear in Witch Hunt as well. Maybe she appear and try to put you and Morrigan add odds with each other?

Bit hopefully not, i think if Flemeth really appears its for something bad like snatching Morri's body or killing her right away

[Brockololly]

MoSa09 wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Thats an interesting thought I suppose. I'm wondering since this is really the end of Origins, will there be  any epilogue slides at the end of this DLC?

I can think of one, sadly.

.........

[bcfishjedi]

I'll probably watch the trailer after I play it. I did that with all the good DLC lately like Leliana's Song and ME2 Overlord and that worked for me!

[MoSa09]

Brockololly wrote...

MoSa09 wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Thats an interesting thought I suppose. I'm wondering since this is really the end of Origins, will there be  any epilogue slides at the end of this DLC?

I can think of one, sadly.

.........

Depending on the ending of Witch Hunt, it could also be something like this:

[Brockololly]

Master Shiori wrote...

The focus of Witch Hunt, unlike Golems of Angarrak, is Morrigan herself. Bioware isn't going to waste money on hiring Claudia Black to record new lines only to have her character play a minor role in her own DLC.

MoSa09 wrote...
Did
they hired her again? I haven't heard anything like that. I was
assuming, as i am certain some kind of content like this was planned
from the very beginning (most probably larger, but its easier to cut
than add), that they already recorded her extra lines for the Morrigan
content while she was doing Origins. That way, BW could have saved alot
of moneys, just paying for a few extra lines, instead of hiring her all
over again.

I was sort of thinking along the lines of MoSa- given the stuff in the toolset with the DR choices being saved for "PRC" I wouldn't be surprised if Claudia Black had maybe recorded lines earler when she might have been working on ME2 or Origins. Then again, she is a fairly versatile voice actress (Asari bartender, anyone?), so maybe she has a role in DA2 besides Morrigan and more recently recorded Morrigan's lines in addition to some other character for DA2?

Then again, they haven't even made mention that Claudia Black is voicing Morrigan in this DLC, have they? How terrible would it be if they had some other voice actor doing Morrigan's voice? I'll stop conjuring up worst case scenarios now....

Thats one strike against DA2 right off the bat though, no hot Claudia Black voice if Morrigan is a no show.

Master Shiori wrote...
Slides are dirt cheap to make so adding them isn't a problem.

And
I'd like to believe that, this being the end of DA:O, Bioware will go
to extra length to make it special. If we're saying goodbye we might as
well part in high spirits.

Thats true about slides being cheap and easy.

And I'd love it if this DLC gets a Throne of Bhaal style send off. Then again though, one must wonder, if BioWare wanted this to be an extra special send off for Origins, why are they doing it in a dainty $7 DLC being announced only 2 weeks before its release date, sharing the spotlight with ME2 DLC? I so desperately want this DLC to be awesome, but I'm not holding my breath either, given the past history of stuff thats come out post Origins.

MoSa09 wrote...
Btw, do you think its possible Flemeth might appear
as well? I would say a clear no as its too expensive to hire Kate
Mulgree as well for a 7 dollar dlc, but she might be around to do her
lines for DA 2 so they might take the opportunity to let Flemeth appear
in Witch Hunt as well. Maybe she appear and try to put you and Morrigan
add odds with each other?



Bit hopefully not, i think if Flemeth really appears its for something bad like snatching Morri's body or killing her right away

I'd doubt Flemeth appears. If she does, its like you said, most likely nothing biut bad news. Or they'll pull a big surprise on us- Oh! That wasn't really Morrigan you were dealing with in this DLC! It was simply Flemeth shapeshifted into Morrigan form while the real Morrigan was captured an is currently in Flemeth's cloning vats to make her MorriClone Army!

[MoSa09]

Brockololly wrote...

I'd doubt Flemeth appears. If she does, its like you said, most likely nothing biut bad news. Or they'll pull a big surprise on us- Oh! That wasn't really Morrigan you were dealing with in this DLC! It was simply Flemeth shapeshifted into Morrigan form while the real Morrigan was captured an is currently in Flemeth's cloning vats to make her MorriClone Army!

Please god no.

If thats what Mike Laidlaw considers "Morrigan fans will be happy what we have in store" then i don't wanna know what we will get if he says something alike "not everyone will be pleased about it". He said the latter about the changes of DA 2.

[CalJones]

Given that Flemeth is in DA2, it's likely they'd have got Kate Mulgrew to record the lines for that and this DLC at the same time (if she is in this DLC, of course. But I think it would be fitting if she was).

The only thing that could bring Morrigan back to Fereldan, in my mind, is Flemeth's reappearance. My best guess is that she wants you to help her defend against Flemeth again, or something along those lines.

[Giggles_Manically]

I have a hard time not laughing around Flemeth because of a Janeway Paradoy I saw along time ago.



Hopefully they close the origins story off, with something nice and not a Dead Warden or evil OGB route. It would be cool if it was just a kid and Morrigan tried to raise it nice.