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[MoSa09]

CalJones wrote...

The only thing that could bring Morrigan back to Fereldan, in my mind, is Flemeth's reappearance. My best guess is that she wants you to help her defend against Flemeth again, or something along those lines.

Unlikely i'd say. Given the description of the dlc, rumors spread Morrigan has returned and she Warden goes looking for her. If she needs your help, i expect her to come to you. And moreover, you can play this with the Orleasian Warden as well, and if she hasn't changed alot, i can picture her asking some unknown man for help to deal with her mother.

[Aphetto_LC]

Brockololly wrote...
Yeah- instead of Awakening we should have had the expansion pack be focused on the Warden and mostly returning companions. With the search for Morrigan as a hub type quest.  I don't understand why BioWare waited so long with this Morrigan DLC though. Its easily the biggest loose end from Origins and one that many people wanted to see resolved. If you threw that in an expansion pack that sold for $40 versus a dinky $7 DLC.....I don't get it.

Because Morrigan's story was probably the original plot for a second expansion or even DA2.  Then the powers that be Mass Effected the series, thus requiring a lot of the plot elements of Origins to be scrapped.

[Giggles_Manically]

But Aphetto!

DA2 isint ME2, according to Laidlaw!



It just has:

A Human protagonist

A voiced protagonist

A dialouge wheel

New Shiny Combat



So yah totally different.

I dont really care about the combat change, Origins was fun but cluncky and had issues aplenty.



Hopefully the DLC goes well.

[Master Shiori]

MoSa09 wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

The focus of Witch Hunt, unlike Golems of Angarrak, is Morrigan herself. Bioware isn't going to waste money on hiring Claudia Black to record new lines only to have her character play a minor role in her own DLC.

Did they hired her again? I haven't heard anything like that. I was assuming, as i am certain some kind of content like this was planned from the very beginning (most probably larger, but its easier to cut than add), that they already recorded her extra lines for the Morrigan content while she was doing Origins. That way, BW could have saved alot of moneys, just paying for a few extra lines, instead of hiring her all over again.

Btw, do you think its possible Flemeth might appear as well? I would say a clear no as its too expensive to hire Kate Mulgree as well for a 7 dollar dlc, but she might be around to do her lines for DA 2 so they might take the opportunity to let Flemeth appear in Witch Hunt as well. Maybe she appear and try to put you and Morrigan add odds with each other?

Bit hopefully not, i think if Flemeth really appears its for something bad like snatching Morri's body or killing her right away

They said Morrigan's story isn't over so don't worry for her.

I doubt we'll see Flemeth, since that would be a bit too much for a DLC.

[KnightofPhoenix]

For people saying that the Leliana DLC is proof that Witch Hunt will probably be good. I have a few issues with the argument.

A- Leliana's DLC is a backstory, where we already knew most of it. But we know very little of Morrigan's plans.

B- Bioware didn't have to worry about choices in LS. For WH, Biwoare has to try and accomodate many variances, such as DR, no DR, romanced, not romanced, Ali / Log DR...etc Especially DR / no DR, which I feel should make a lot of difference unless the OGB is not that important. Add the fact that we play the Warden, so our interaction with her has to *in theory* be different in each variant,

C- Probably the fate of Thedas (and the entire franchise for me) rests with this DLC , unless they really believe that Hawke is the next big thing and the DR is just for the lulz that is not really relevent at all (that would make me rage).

Now I am just going to stop expecting and hoping and go back to my naturally cynical posture.

[Jacks Smirking Revenge]

Compared to the other DLC it was quite pleasant was it top quality stuff. I don't know that is up for debate, but if you compare it to it's competition. I think it is easily the best DLC so far. Not counting the Stone Prisoner.

[Brockololly]

Aphetto_LC wrote...
Because Morrigan's story was probably the original plot for a second expansion or even DA2.  Then the powers that be Mass Effected the series, thus requiring a lot of the plot elements of Origins to be scrapped.

Sad but true.

I was going to rant after reading some more depressing articles on the Mass Effecting of DA, but I'll hold off. Damn voice acted player character....if DA2 ends up 20-30 hours with skimpy companion dialogue like ME (calibrations, anyone?), you can go ahead and blame the voiced PC for eating up all the resources. IMO, its not worth the tradeoff.

Anyway, here is to hoping WItch Hunt is awesome. Some questions to ponder as we wait in boredom:

• How long do you think Witch Hunt will be?
• When will they release the trailer?
• Who will the other 2 "locked" characters be?
• Does this take place in the Korcari Wilds or maybe more towards the Brecilian Forest?
• Odds that we get Gaider'd  somehow, someway?

[KnightofPhoenix]

Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...

Compared to the other DLC it was quite pleasant was it top quality stuff. I don't know that is up for debate, but if you compare it to it's competition. I think it is easily the best DLC so far. Not counting the Stone Prisoner.

Considering how the other DLC were ****, then it's not that much of an achievement really.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 30 août 2010 - 03:17 .

[Brockololly]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
A- Leliana's DLC is a backstory, where we already knew most of it. But we know very little of Morrigan's plans.

Exactly. Leliana's Song was "good" for DA DLC in that it had decent production values and didn't seem like a mod project (no offense, modders) like Darkspawn Chronicles did. Storywise it didn't have much to really tell- we already knew most everything, just the details were missing. Morrigan though? We know absolutely next to nothing! They certainly have some explaining to do in this DLC, and have to actually tell a meaningful story here.

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
B- Bioware didn't have to worry about choices in LS. For WH, Biwoare has to try and accomodate many variances, such as DR, no DR, romanced, not romanced, Ali / Log DR...etc Especially DR / no DR, which I feel should make a lot of difference unless the OGB is not that important. Add the fact that we play the Warden, so our interaction with her has to *in theory* be different in each variant,

The possible choices that BioWare *should* account for is rather huge. Not only Morrigan's attitude towards the player, but your choice in the DR, who did the DR, then the brand new Orlesian Warden too. Given that its a DLC with a likely skimpy budget I'm very much concerned we'll end up with a boatload of generic dialogue or they just gloss over existing questions.

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
C- Probably the fate of Thedas (and the entire franchise for me) rests with this DLC , unless they really believe that Hawke is the next big thing and the DR is just for the lulz that is not really relevent at all (that would make me rage).
Now I am just going to stop expecting and hoping and go back to my naturally cynical posture.

I'm right there with you KoP. If we don't get some meaningful answers in this DLC or if it in anyway feels like a cheap cash in DLC, I will be very upset. For anyone that romanced Morrigan or wanted some closure, this is basically paying to get the last chapter in the game. If its worth it, so be it.

But I'm not judging Witch Hunt as a $7 DLC- I'm judging it against Origins. This is basically finishing Origins so it damn well better be of the same quality as Origins. ANything less and like you said, I'll lose faith in BioWare to tell a story. Its bad enough in my view that they're ditching the Warden and Morrigan in a DLC, but if its a crappy DLC to boot?

Somewhere, Obi Wan Kenobi would take note of all the Morrigan fans raging:
"I felt a  great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."

Modifié par Brockololly, 30 août 2010 - 03:34 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Brockololly wrote...
Somewhere, Obi Wan Kenobi would take note of all the Morrigan fans raging:
"I felt a  great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."

Ahh yes, the Star Wars / Lotr parodies.

Giggles! We need some moar of those!
Even depression can use some humor with it.

[GardenSnake]

Ya, nothing like some good Star Wars references to lighten the mood! Umm, as for Brock's question, unfortunately, it'll probably be the average 1 to two hours at most. That sucks, but if there's more than five seconds of story, that'll be good. A Gaidering potentialy happening? Doubt it, Bioware wants us to accept DA2 with open arms and that relies a lot on what some people will think of how Morrigan and the Warden's story for Origins comes to a close. Jokes on Bioware in my case though, regardless of what I think of the dlc. Where the dlc is? I hope it's in the Wilds, and the final meeting taking place where the treaties were would be like getting hit by a nostalgia freight train. That would be even better if she starts the conversation by mentioning if the Warden remembers how they first met there. It would be all romantic and stuff for LI wardens. Man I can't wait for this dlc, I'm happy Bioware is only making me pay 7 bucks for it. Big mistake on their part, I would have paid more.

Modifié par GardenSnake, 30 août 2010 - 03:53 .

[Shiratori]

Brockololly wrote...

Anyway, here is to hoping WItch Hunt is awesome. Some questions to ponder as we wait in boredom:

• How long do you think Witch Hunt will be?
• When will they release the trailer?
• Who will the other 2 "locked" characters be?
• Does this take place in the Korcari Wilds or maybe more towards the Brecilian Forest?
• Odds that we get Gaider'd  somehow, someway?

I'll guess about 2 hours on average in length.  I remember Leliana's Song took me awhile first time through, but then again I did stop to smell the roses, er... read the codex notes and fight the city guard a lot.  Even if areas are "recycled" I think the build would be like Leliana's Song where there were several different areas where the story took place.  Again, best guess.  I think the production for this will be at least as good as that.

I'll also go with this Tuesday for the trailer (1 week before the DLC release).  Seems about right.

Hoping that Barkspawn is one of the 2.  I don't care how loudly people kvetch if that is the case (though quite a number would be happy with that), it would be nice to have a returning character from my original party.  Dog would be the easiest one that could be done with.  I wouldn't even mind an Awakening character although I can't see much of a good reason why any of them would come with me in this case, and technically speaking, it's possible none of them are still alive, much less Wardens.  So everything being even, I'd be more than happy with my faithful mabari.

Likely the Korcari Wilds, though if any area looks familiar, it will likely be from the Brecilian Forest (or maybe where a side encounter happens like the forest with all the spiders).

I can see this DLC providing closure and I have enough faith that I won't be disappointed in the ending.  I don't see much of a "happy" ending though.  But I will go with satisfying.  If nothing else, I think this conclusion is one of the few things they had worked out back from the beginning compared to any of the other standalone DLC packages.  That alone makes me think we'll have a crowning moment of awesomeness to wrap things up.

[KnightofPhoenix]

GardenSnake wrote...
Where the dlc is? I hope it's in the Wilds, and the final meeting taking place where the treaties were would be like getting hit by a nostalgia freight train. That would be even better if she starts the conversation by mentioning if the Warden remembers how they first met there. It would be all romantic and stuff for LI warden's. 

As long as they don't make it like "This is where you fist met and this is where you'll have no choice but to kill her".
But yea, the location there might add some emotion there, but I really can't help but wonder. Does Morrigan really think it's a good idea to come back to Ferelden where Flemeth would be near, only a year after Origins? But kudos for her for travelling with the child (hopefully the OGB is in there, or I would be pissed).  No easy task, I wanted to kill crying babies on the plane for 13 hours.

[Brockololly]

GardenSnake wrote...
Man I can't wait for this dlc, I'm happy Bioware is only making me pay 7 bucks for it. Big mistake on their part, I would have paid more.

Seriously though- BioWare is making a huge mistake by not making this into something bigger than a $7 DLC. Even if they had the whole "search for Morrigan" thing as a hub quest or subplot in Awakening and marketed it as such, I can guarantee they would have sold more copies of Awakening. And yet they take one of the most interesting storylines from Origins and plop it down in a DLC.....odd decision.

Shiratori wrote...
So everything being even, I'd be more than happy with my faithful mabari.

I'd love to have my Mabari back- hopefully Morrigan and the Dog have some good dialogue 

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
As long as they don't make it like "This is where you fist met and this is where you'll have no choice but to kill her".
But yea, the location there might add some emotion there, but I really can't help but wonder. Does Morrigan really think it's a good idea to  come back to Ferelden where Flemeth would be near, only a year after  Origins? But kudos for her for travelling with the child (hopefully the OGB is in there, or I would be pissed).  No easy task, I wanted to kill crying babies on the plane for 13 hours.

Thats a good point- Morrigan makes a big deal about not being at Flemeth's hut when you kill Flemeth for fear of being taken over by Flemeth. Yet she is going right back to the Korcari Wilds about one year later or so? I;m worried we'll get the ol' Flemeth body snatch surprise somewhere in this DLC.

I really hope they don't railroad us into killing Morrigan or anything like that- having a lack of options was the problem with the DR scene, I pray the writers don't make that same mistake.

As for Morrigan hauling around the Old God Baby? I'm doubting we'll see the OGB but then again, what would the explanation be for Morrigan not having the OGB with her? If its a normally aging baby, it would at most be a couple months old- if its soooo important to Morrigan would she just ditch it somewhere while going all Indiana Jones searching for lost Elven artifacts?

How the DLC answers the Dark Ritual and Old God Baby questions will really make or break it for me.

Modifié par Brockololly, 30 août 2010 - 04:14 .

[Ash Wind]

I don’t think they would kill Morrigan, she’s an awesome and complex character… that would be like replacing the Warden… oh wait, nevermind.

Probably over-thinking it, but I’m curious about the timeline. My understanding is that was 5 years between the start of Awakening and the time the Warden left The Keep in search of the Dark Haired Sorceress… Now this DLC, the last for Origins, takes place a year after the death of the Archdemon, when the Warden is still a Warden.

Is this just creative license or adding another layer? It would blow if it was just for setting something up for the Adventures of Timmy Hawke.

As for the initial reunion, it would be cool if it mimicked your first meeting with her in Origins, at the ruins in the Wilds.

Modifié par Ash Wind, 30 août 2010 - 04:36 .

[GardenSnake]

Brockololly wrote...

 if its soooo important to Morrigan would she just ditch it somewhere while going all Indiana Jones searching for lost Elven artifacts?

That would be so epic. You meet Morrigan and for some reason she's decided to wear a fedora and uses a whip now instead of a staff. You happen to find the artifact before she does and the first thing she says when she sees you is," THAt BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!!!!!!!!" followed by a badass retrieval with the whip. "Now where was I? Oh yes you had some questions."  That would be great, if not completely out of character lol.

Seeing her with a whip and fedora would be pretty awesome, Ximena make it happen

[ximena]

GardenSnake wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

 if its soooo important to Morrigan would she just ditch it somewhere while going all Indiana Jones searching for lost Elven artifacts?
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That would be so epic. You meet Morrigan and for some reason she's decided to wear a fedora and uses a whip now instead of a staff. You happen to find the artifact before she does and the first thing she says when she sees you is," THAt BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!!!!!!!!" followed by a badass retrieval with the whip. "Now where was I? Oh yes you had some questions."  That would be great, if not completely out of character lol.

Seeing her with a whip and fedora would be pretty awesome, Ximena make it happen

You are in luck. I happen to be working on a mini project with Morrigan variations. xD *adds that to the Almighty list*

Modifié par ximena, 30 août 2010 - 04:59 .

[KendallX23]

there's no way i'm gonna be ready with my Morrigan romanced char in time...still not finished origins(thinking replaying it to get the ring) then i have awakening too...then the golems..so much to do so litlle time

[GardenSnake]

ximena wrote...

GardenSnake wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

 if its soooo important to Morrigan would she just ditch it somewhere while going all Indiana Jones searching for lost Elven artifacts?
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That would be so epic. You meet Morrigan and for some reason she's decided to wear a fedora and uses a whip now instead of a staff. You happen to find the artifact before she does and the first thing she says when she sees you is," THAt BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!!!!!!!!" followed by a badass retrieval with the whip. "Now where was I? Oh yes you had some questions."  That would be great, if not completely out of character lol.

Seeing her with a whip and fedora would be pretty awesome, Ximena make it happen

You are in luck. I happen to be working on a mini project with Morrigan variations. xD *adds that to the Almight list*

Ladies and gents I give you the win of the day.

[Brockololly]

Ash Wind wrote...

I don’t think they would kill Morrigan, she’s an awesome and complex character… that would be like replacing the Warden… oh wait, nevermind.

Oh, I'd be chuckling if it wasn't true....

Ash Wind wrote...
Probably over-thinking it, but I’m curious about the timeline. My understanding is that was 5 years between the start of Awakening and the time the Warden left The Keep in search of the Dark Haired Sorceress… Now this DLC, the last for Origins, takes place a year after the death of the Archdemon, when the Warden is still a Warden.

Well, Awakening's timeline was sort of vague. I think you kill the AD , then one to 2 months after that, you go to Amaranthine for Awakening. Then I always figured the events of Awakening took about 6 months or so. SO you figure that leaves several months still prior to the one year mark from killing the AD. Maybe the Warden just took a temporary leave from Vigil's Keep to investigate the report of Morrigan?

Ash Wind wrote...
As for the initial reunion, it would be cool if it mimicked your first meeting with her in Origins, at the ruins in the Wilds.

It might be funny if it was the Warden that could sort of sneak up on Morrigan and do the "Well, well, what have we here..." routine.

GardenSnake wrote...

That would be so epic. You meet Morrigan and for some reason she's decided to wear a fedora and uses a  whip now instead of a staff. You happen to find the artifact before she  does and the first thing she says when she sees you is," THAt BELONGS  IN A MUSEUM!!!!!!!!" followed by a badass retrieval with the whip. "Now  where was I? Oh yes you had some questions." ../../../images/forum/emoticons/cool.png

Or if they want to go the tragic route, have it like the end of The Last Crusade, just subsitiute the Holy Grail with whatever Elven artifact Morrigan is looking for and switch Elsa with Morrigan....They already copied Indiana Jones a bit with the Guardian and the Gauntlet in Origins...

GardenSnake wrote...
Seeing her with a whip and fedora would be pretty awesome, Ximena make it happen

Hahaha... yeah, just add "Sexy Indiana Jones Archaeologist Morrigan" to your list Ximena
Edit: Ninja'd by Ximena

Modifié par Brockololly, 30 août 2010 - 04:58 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

ximena wrote...
You are in luck. I happen to be working on a mini project with Morrigan variations. xD *adds that to the Almight list*

That would be the only thing that would revive me from a possible Witch hunt disaster.

Can you make Morrigan Arab variant, pwease?
Like this http://arabiannights...ng-bedugirl.jpg

[ximena]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

ximena wrote...
You are in luck. I happen to be working on a mini project with Morrigan variations. xD *adds that to the Almight list*

That would be the only thing that would revive me from a possible Witch hunt disaster.

Can you make Morrigan Arab variant, pwease?
Like this http://arabiannights...ng-bedugirl.jpg

Hurrhurr. Okay. Keep 'em coming guys. XD I need a lot of Morrigans. Haha.

[Brockololly]

ximena wrote...

Hurrhurr. Okay. Keep 'em coming guys. XD I need a lot of Morrigans. Haha.

Warrior Morrigan in heavy armor!

Bollywood Morrigan!

Jpop Morrigan!

Heavy metal rocker Morrigan!

Renaissance era Morrigan!

Film Noir Morrigan!

Mass Effect Morrigan!

Wild West Cowboy/Cowgirl Morrigan!

Sith Morrigan!

Slave Leia outift Morrigan! (*wiggles eyebrows*)

hahahaha:lol:

Modifié par Brockololly, 30 août 2010 - 05:29 .